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Old 04-18-2010, 10:56 AM  
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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First Round
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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:32 AM   #46
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What would a team have to give up to move up? I am thinking a swap of 1st round picks and 2 extra picks at least.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:35 AM   #47
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What would a team have to give up to move up? I am thinking a swap of 1st round picks and 2 extra picks at least.

i think a coupon for a bill parcell's back rub and an italian sausage is all it will take....
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:35 AM   #48
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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.
Oh this just couldn't happen. San Fran trades up to 5?


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I don't mind a trade down. But moving a few extra spots for one extra pick when Clausen and Berry on the board reeks of stupid. If it's two extra picks (both of second round value or higher), I can deal.

In fact, I'd much rather trade down to the 20's and pick up an extra pick than pick up an average LB like McClain.

Now, if they trade down and take the top pass rusher on the board, that's a move I can deal with.
I agree they need a pass rusher, but McClain is average? No, he's FAR better than average.


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Weatherspoon will be a better linebacker in the NFL than McClain. I will be pissed if we draft McClain.
We have one of the worst run defense's in the league and you'd be pissed if we got the best ILB in the draft? I also like Weatherspoon a lot, but I certainly wouldn't be pissed if we drafted McClain.

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I kindof agree with you on this....I think there should be just a "Lounge" where you talk about anything but football and a "Field" where you talk about football....If it was like that, there wouldnt be a need for a draft section.
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why on god's green earth would we not draft Berry?


Tyson Jackson is good enough for the Chiefs but Berry isn't?
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:37 AM   #50
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Just to clarify one thing, don't anybody act like Earl Thomas is not a big time playmaker. He was just a sophomore last season and had more interceptions than Berry ever had in a season, and returned as many of them for touchdowns as Berry ever did.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:39 AM   #51
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Oh this just couldn't happen. San Fran trades up to 5?

I agree they need a pass rusher, but McClain is average? No, he's FAR better than average.
He's a good ILB. But given that ILBs have low positional value and that he's not what you'd consider elite, passing up on an elite player like Berry for him is stupid, unless you get tremendous trade value.

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We have one of the worst run defense's in the league and you'd be pissed if we got the best ILB in the draft? I also like Weatherspoon a lot, but I certainly wouldn't be pissed if we drafted McClain.
Our run defense is one of the worst in the league because we don't have a Nose Tackle that can take on 3 blockers and keep them off of the ILB. I still believe ILB is one of the least important positions in this defense. If Tyson Jackson and Dorsey improve and we get a legit Nose Tackle, between Demorrio, DJ, Mays, and Belcher, we can probably find a set of ILBs who do their job just fine.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:39 AM   #52
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why on god's green earth would we not draft Berry?


Tyson Jackson is good enough for the Chiefs but Berry isn't?
My thoughts exactly.

Passing on Berry seems like the dumbest thing this franchise could do at this point IMO. A leader on defense, smart kid with a great background and good off the field values. Looks like one of those once every 10-15 year guys. And we're going to trade down for..................Earl ****ing Thomas?
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:41 AM   #54
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why on god's green earth would we not draft Berry?


Tyson Jackson is good enough for the Chiefs but Berry isn't?
Good point.


What was Pioli's quote? "I'm not looking for the most talented players. I'm looking for the right players". Well in this case (Berry) Berry is the most talented and a "Right 53" type of player.
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This is how pessimistic I am that the Chiefs will make something out of this draft: I'm somewhat excited about a trade down just to see how much every other team's plans get ****ed with a new team picking at #5. Watching that chaos ensue sounds more enjoyable than watching the Chiefs attempt to make solid picks.
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This is how pessimistic I am that the Chiefs will make something out of this draft: I'm somewhat excited about a trade down just to see how much every other team's plans get ****ed with a new team picking at #5. Watching that chaos ensue sounds more enjoyable than watching the Chiefs attempt to make solid picks.
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:42 AM   #57
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Honestly, if we trade down and draft Taylor Mays I'll be thrilled. I think he'll be the best safety out of this class anyways.

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They obviously have someone targeted and if they can't trade they will probably reach. If they get the right player it will be fine. This place is gonna explode though.


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The 9ers give up their #13(1150) and #17(950) for our #5(1700) and #50(400) They give up 100 points because they are moving up or we can give them a 5th round pick too so they lose about 60 points.

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