Chiefs Thoughts on last night, and looking forward... - Page 4

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-23-2010, 08:29 AM

Great. ****ing. Pick.

This kid is going to be a superstar. His play and versatility is well documented, so I'm going to focus on the off the field stuff I noticed that makes me like this pick even more.

Anyone notice that almost every prospect in the green room had a watch the size of a ****ing dinner plate, and a ton of bling?

Not EB. Dud looked like he was wearing a $50 Seiko.

The story of helping the equipment guys also shows how humble this kid is. There's no doubt in my mind this kid is going to work his ass off to be the best FS in the league. This secondary is going to be sick when we get some pass rushing help.

Moving on....

Clausen. Part of me is pissed because they didn't move back up into the late 1st to grab him - but part of me thinks they've made the right move by keeping their picks because they think he'll still be there at 36. Cleveland and Carolina are both rumored to prefer Colt McCoy. Minnesota isn't going to take him, and I think they'll move back again if they can. They wanted Patrick Robinson and were sniped by the Saints.

Kindle. Microfracture surgery? Pass.

Otherwise, there are some great prospects that should be available here. I just hope they continue to take playmakers and leave the fat guys to the later rounds. Benn would be a nice R2 pick, as would Daryl Washington, Golden Tate, etc.

Rest of the AFC West.

Oakland taking McClain at 8 changed the entire draft. It's a big reach, IMO - and it makes no sense to take this kid and kick Kirk Morrison to the curb, but it's Oakland - they never do anything that makes sense.

WTF is AJ Smith thinking? Ryan Matthews is a great pick, but why mortgage your draft to move up 16 spots to get him? You can't convince me that anyone before Houston was going to take him. Huge waste of resources.

Denver. Oh, Denver. You made my night. At first you scared me, because you were stockpiling picks. Then you took Thomas, which was an excellent move. Then when you traded up, I figured it was for Dan Williams, which would have been another solid move.

Then I see the cutaway to Tim Tebow on the phone, and laugh my balls off.

Thanks for the laughs, Josh. I'm looking forward to more tonight.

Tonight really is huge for this franchise. Pioli gets an A thus far, but these next three picks are going to be the make-or-break for the future of this franchise, IMO. Hit on them, and things are looking great. Miss? I don't even want to think about it.

Get it done, Scott.

**the Talking Can** · 04-23-2010, 09:33 AM

nothing like tuning into kc radio and listening to Petro and his miserable crew talk about how they "kind of like" the pick of Berry

and then spend 20 minutes whining about how dumb fans are for thinking he's "going to be better than Ed Reed"...even though no fan has ever said such a thing

god Petro is a whiny piece of shit, and kc radio is a disaster....

it sounds like goth kids in a smoking pit at high school complaining about the cool kids

**The Franchise** · 04-23-2010, 09:35 AM

If I'm the Lions....I'm trading back into the 2nd round and grabbing Brown or Campbell. Suh, Best and Campbell would make for a ****ing awesome draft.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-23-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If I'm the Lions....I'm trading back into the 2nd round and grabbing Brown or Campbell. Suh, Best and Campbell would make for a ****ing awesome draft.

They could be planning something like that, or feel that they are close to a deal for Gaither or Jamaal Brown.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-23-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If I'm the Lions....I'm trading back into the 2nd round and grabbing Brown or Campbell. Suh, Best and Campbell would make for a ****ing awesome draft.

If they pull that off, they're about set. That team is really starting to draft well. But I can't honestly say that until they protect Stafford.

DrRyan · 04-23-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I actually think Clausen would make a great situation for the Chiefs.

#1 it sends a message to Cassel. This is the year he either puts up or shuts up. By drafting a QB his back is against the wall, it creates more competition in camp and it will truly demonstate how he performs under pressure.

#2 Drafting Clausen makes the Charlie Weis hiring even more appealing. What better guy to have in coaching a young quarterback who knows his ins and outs better than anyone else. In other words, Chiefs have the right coach to develop Clausen.

#3. I look at it this way, if the Chiefs draft Clausen, and Cassel steps it up by having a good year, its a bonus! Makes things better for next year. It sets the Chiefs up in a great situation by knowing you have a quarterback in Cassel and a potential quarterback in Clausen. Cassel could be a possible trade bait for a team that is looking for a quarterback? Hey you never know? And if the worst case scenario happens, where Cassel sucks, at least you have another option to look forward to with better upside and talent.

*There are a lot of good scenarios that could come out of this

I agree with all of this and would add one other thing. Even though I do like Clausen, I like the(likely) available QBs in next years draft a little better. But, if the Chiefs were to take Clausen this year they would be in prime position to get one of the big 3 WRs next year. If they wait for a QBOTF until next year, it would be virtually impossible to get one of the big 3 WRs.

milkman · 04-23-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Kind of hard to argue that a coach isn't pretty good when his defense is tops in the league twice in a 3 year span. That being said, I don't think he was a genius by any means.

I think that ****her was the best defensive puppet that Marty ever had.

But even with that, ****her did more to contain Derek Thomas than any opponent ever did.

He found a way to really highlight DT's weakness against the run, and minimze his full impact as a pass rusher.

Chiefnj2 · 04-23-2010, 09:40 AM

I hope KC takes Tate with 2a. Tate made Clausen look better than he is, and Cassell could use a quick underneath receiver who could be used similar to Wes Walker.

Titty Meat · 04-23-2010, 09:44 AM

Anyone else sold on Everson Griffen based upon all those USC linebackers from last year? I know thats a silly reason but the guy produced last year and has alot of upisde.

**BigRedChief** · 04-23-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I hope KC takes Tate with 2a. Tate made Clausen look better than he is, and Cassell could use a quick underneath receiver who could be used similar to Wes Walker.

Your not taking Tate with #36 and then expecting Claussen to be there at #50. Someone will pick Claussen before #50.

RedThat · 04-23-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Your not taking Tate with #36 and then expecting Claussen to be there at #50. Someone will pick Claussen before #50.

I hope they take Clausen BRC. It's time to get that quarterback we've been missing for years.

beer bacon · 04-23-2010, 09:53 AM

ESPN's second round mock has us taking Bruce Campbell with our second second rounder. Any chance he is still undrafted at that spot?

Chiefnj2 · 04-23-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Your not taking Tate with #36 and then expecting Claussen to be there at #50. Someone will pick Claussen before #50.

That's okay. I want Tate over Clausen. KC can grab a ROT, ILB or NT at 50.

Chiefnj2 · 04-23-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

ESPN's second round mock has us taking Bruce Campbell with our second second rounder. Any chance he is still undrafted at that spot?

I'd guess he goes to the Raiders in the 2nd round.

Swanman · 04-23-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I hope KC takes Tate with 2a. Tate made Clausen look better than he is, and Cassell could use a quick underneath receiver who could be used similar to Wes Walker.

If they go WR with 2a, I would prefer Benn if he is available, although I do like Tate, just not at 36. Benn is a first-round talent that was ruined in his final year at Illinois because of terrible coaching and a QB that couldn't hit water from a boat. Going into his junior year, he was projected top-10 in many mocks.

Swanman · 04-23-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

ESPN's second round mock has us taking Bruce Campbell with our second second rounder. Any chance he is still undrafted at that spot?

04-23-2010, 08:29 AM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2051115	Thoughts on last night, and looking forward... Great. **ing. Pick. This kid is going to be a superstar. His play and versatility is well documented, so I'm going to focus on the off the field stuff I noticed that makes me like this pick even more. Anyone notice that almost every prospect in the green room had a watch the size of a **ing dinner plate, and a ton of bling? Not EB. Dud looked like he was wearing a $50 Seiko. The story of helping the equipment guys also shows how humble this kid is. There's no doubt in my mind this kid is going to work his ass off to be the best FS in the league. This secondary is going to be sick when we get some pass rushing help. Moving on.... Clausen. Part of me is pissed because they didn't move back up into the late 1st to grab him - but part of me thinks they've made the right move by keeping their picks because they think he'll still be there at 36. Cleveland and Carolina are both rumored to prefer Colt McCoy. Minnesota isn't going to take him, and I think they'll move back again if they can. They wanted Patrick Robinson and were sniped by the Saints. Kindle. Microfracture surgery? Pass. Otherwise, there are some great prospects that should be available here. I just hope they continue to take playmakers and leave the fat guys to the later rounds. Benn would be a nice R2 pick, as would Daryl Washington, Golden Tate, etc. Rest of the AFC West. Oakland taking McClain at 8 changed the entire draft. It's a big reach, IMO - and it makes no sense to take this kid and kick Kirk Morrison to the curb, but it's Oakland - they never do anything that makes sense. WTF is AJ Smith thinking? Ryan Matthews is a great pick, but why mortgage your draft to move up 16 spots to get him? You can't convince me that anyone before Houston was going to take him. Huge waste of resources. Denver. Oh, Denver. You made my night. At first you scared me, because you were stockpiling picks. Then you took Thomas, which was an excellent move. Then when you traded up, I figured it was for Dan Williams, which would have been another solid move. Then I see the cutaway to Tim Tebow on the phone, and laugh my balls off. Thanks for the laughs, Josh. I'm looking forward to more tonight. Tonight really is huge for this franchise. Pioli gets an A thus far, but these next three picks are going to be the make-or-break for the future of this franchise, IMO. Hit on them, and things are looking great. Miss? I don't even want to think about it. Get it done, Scott.
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04-23-2010, 09:33 AM	#46
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9142208	nothing like tuning into kc radio and listening to Petro and his miserable crew talk about how they "kind of like" the pick of Berry and then spend 20 minutes whining about how dumb fans are for thinking he's "going to be better than Ed Reed"...even though no fan has ever said such a thing god Petro is a whiny piece of shit, and kc radio is a disaster.... it sounds like goth kids in a smoking pit at high school complaining about the cool kids __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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04-23-2010, 09:35 AM	#47
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04-23-2010, 09:40 AM	#52
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	I hope KC takes Tate with 2a. Tate made Clausen look better than he is, and Cassell could use a quick underneath receiver who could be used similar to Wes Walker. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1202442	Anyone else sold on Everson Griffen based upon all those USC linebackers from last year? I know thats a silly reason but the guy produced last year and has alot of upisde.
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04-23-2010, 09:53 AM	#56
beer bacon WHAT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10019545	ESPN's second round mock has us taking Bruce Campbell with our second second rounder. Any chance he is still undrafted at that spot?
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