Chiefs Matt Leinart - Page 4

Coogs · 08-29-2010, 11:12 AM

Seems as if Leinart may not be the starter in Arizona. He already has a history with Haley, so picking up our offense should not be difficult for Leinart. Stats so far in pre-season for Leinart are 19-23 for 161 yards and a TD. 110.3 QB ranking.

I know Haley went with Warner over Leinart at the given time he was in Arizona. But I think it is fair to say that Cassel is no Warner. I wonder if Haley would prefer Leinart over Cassel at this point? If so, with Haleys relationship with the Cards appearing to be good, I wonder if there possible trade could be arranged involving players, and not draft picks?

Fire away.

Marcellus · 08-29-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you think Ken Whisenhunt has ever been committed to Matt Leinart I have news for you...sure they can pay the lip service of it's his job to lose etc etc, he's still in an offense that is radically different than his skill set.

Also Leinart has better numbers than Anderson does so how is Anderson leading for the job if it's a competition or Leinart's job to lose?

Because they both suck?

Coogs · 08-29-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Because they both suck?

Leinart took Arizona 142 yards in 3 possessions against the Bears. Probably would have had 2 TD's, but Well's fumbles at the 6 with about 40 seconds to go in the 1st half on Leinart's first drive.

Our guy... on the other hand... lead the Chiefs to 48 total yards on 6 posessions, only to get the ball back on a highly questionable penalty by the far outside guy on the punt return team of the Eagles.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-29-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Leinert sucks , Cassel sucks,Croyle sucks. We need to draft three ****ing quarterbacks nevt year. Period.

These.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-29-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So they went into this season trying to give Lienart a job they know he couldn't win just for shits and giggles?
Knowing he would fail and they would rather get rid of him (knowing he would be great in a WCO as you claim) than change the system to fit his style?

Yea the happens all the time.

Actually, it does.

Teams draft players for specific systems. Teams routinely dump established QB's for QB's well-versed the new system being installed by the coach.

How many times has Pittsburgh changed their offensive philosophy? The Cowboys? The Patriots under Belichick? The Packers? Mike Holmgren led teams?

The fact of the matter is that coaches subscribe to ONE philosophy and teams that stick with that philosophy during regime changes are more likley to succeed than teams that are constantly changing their offensive and defensive schemes.

Leinhart has never been the right fit the Erhardt/Perkins offense. I have absolutely no idea, nearly 5 years removed from his college days, whether he can excel in the WCO but that's exactly the type of offense he should be running.

Ugly Duck · 08-29-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Anybody in favor of getting Leinart over Cassel is a hypocrite.

When you think about it... the QB classes of '06 & '07 all suck. Oakland made the biggest mistake by drafting the Hut at #1. Cudda had Quinn - suck. Cudda had Leinart - suck. Cudda had Cutler - INT machine. They all suck.

Jawshco · 08-29-2010, 02:37 PM

Forget Leinart. He's too much of a head case. I wouldn't mind having AZ's rookie QB John Skelton. He looked pretty impressive in that first game against Houston, and has a pretty decent arm. He looks better than Jimmy Falco, that's for sure.

LaChapelle · 08-29-2010, 02:50 PM

Tommy Mattox would be a better choice

DTLB58 · 08-29-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Seems as if Leinart may not be the starter in Arizona. He already has a history with Haley, so picking up our offense should not be difficult for Leinart. Stats so far in pre-season for Leinart are 19-23 for 161 yards and a TD. 110.3 QB ranking.

I know Haley went with Warner over Leinart at the given time he was in Arizona. But I think it is fair to say that Cassel is no Warner. I wonder if Haley would prefer Leinart over Cassel at this point? If so, with Haleys relationship with the Cards appearing to be good, I wonder if there possible trade could be arranged involving players, and not draft picks?

Fire away.

I think Haley would go with a healthy Croyle over Cassel at this point.

So the question isn't whether Haley would prefer Leinart over Cassel it's whether Pioli would? And the answer is no.

splatbass · 08-29-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

If Cassel continues to suck balls, we will not have to trade up to get one. Plus, Haley is probably out of a job.

I keep hearing this, but it makes no sense. Why would Haley be out of a job? He didn't choose the QB.

Rasputin · 08-29-2010, 04:31 PM

Haleys job is not on the line with how Matt Cassel plays. Unless the team in whole doesn't improve, but Cassel is on the hot seat not Haley. Pioli will stick by Haley through next year. This is Haleys second year as HC, he brought in Crennel & Weis so his ego isn't too big.

milkman · 08-29-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawshco

Forget Leinart. He's too much of a head case. I wouldn't mind having AZ's rookie QB John Skelton. He looked pretty impressive in that first game against Houston, and has a pretty decent arm. He looks better than Jimmy Falco, that's for sure.

Cards are going to cut either Skelton or Max Hall, both of whom I would claim as soon as they get the axe.

**007** · 08-29-2010, 04:38 PM

You know the Chiefs won't pick up any QB scraps out there.

**RealSNR** · 08-29-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Cards are going to cut either Skelton or Max Hall, both of whom I would claim as soon as they get the axe.

That's insane that they would cut Skelton. I'd have to think that he's the most promising QB on that roster, and even if he's not ready to start in the NFL (he's not) they need to keep him around for when he possibly might be.

milkman · 08-29-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

That's insane that they would cut Skelton. I'd have to think that he's the most promising QB on that roster, and even if he's not ready to start in the NFL (he's not) they need to keep him around for when he possibly might be.

Max Hall has looked promising in his snaps, as well, which is why I say I'd claim either one of them.

**RealSNR** · 08-29-2010, 04:49 PM

Then there's also this:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=nfl&id=3138

According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Cardinals see some "Kurt Warner qualities" in undrafted rookie QB Max Hall.
Hall has a been a "tremendous surprise" outplaying fellow rookie John Skelton throughout camp, and it wouldn't be surprising to see him with a couple of spot starts late in the season. Mort joins NFL Network's Mike Lombardi in speculating that Matt Leinart won't be on the final roster because the Cardinals don't want to lose one of the rookies on waivers.

08-29-2010, 11:12 AM
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2265651	Matt Leinart Seems as if Leinart may not be the starter in Arizona. He already has a history with Haley, so picking up our offense should not be difficult for Leinart. Stats so far in pre-season for Leinart are 19-23 for 161 yards and a TD. 110.3 QB ranking. I know Haley went with Warner over Leinart at the given time he was in Arizona. But I think it is fair to say that Cassel is no Warner. I wonder if Haley would prefer Leinart over Cassel at this point? If so, with Haleys relationship with the Cards appearing to be good, I wonder if there possible trade could be arranged involving players, and not draft picks? Fire away.
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Jawshco Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clovis, CA Casino cash: $10004925	Forget Leinart. He's too much of a head case. I wouldn't mind having AZ's rookie QB John Skelton. He looked pretty impressive in that first game against Houston, and has a pretty decent arm. He looks better than Jimmy Falco, that's for sure.
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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1534792	Then there's also this: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=nfl&id=3138 According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Cardinals see some "Kurt Warner qualities" in undrafted rookie QB Max Hall. Hall has a been a "tremendous surprise" outplaying fellow rookie John Skelton throughout camp, and it wouldn't be surprising to see him with a couple of spot starts late in the season. Mort joins NFL Network's Mike Lombardi in speculating that Matt Leinart won't be on the final roster because the Cardinals don't want to lose one of the rookies on waivers.
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