Chiefs Randy Moss comes to KC next season as a FA? - PURE SPECULATION & CONJECTURE - Page 4

**pr_capone** · 09-06-2010, 10:03 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl...ory?id=5540944

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Moss was quoted as saying, "I don't think I'm realistically in the future plans of the Patriots. But if the New England Patriots don't want me in their future, [it's a business]. I understand."

Would he be up for a Pioli/Cassel (assuming he is still the QB next season) reunion? We could certainly pay him what he wants and even at 33 he is 10x better than anything we have on the roster now.

What say you CP? If magically Moss winds up as a FA... should KC make a play?

What if NE put him up for trade before the deadline this season? Do you give away picks for him?

milkman · 09-07-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

2007 (with Brady healthy): 1493 yards, 15.2 average, 23 TDs.
2008 (with Cassel starting): 1008 yards, 14.6 average, 11 TDs.
2009 (with Brady returning): 1264 yards, 15.2 average, 13 TDs.

How exactly did he quit?

There have been a few odd rumblings, and he's not happy about not having a new contract, but "quitting"? Compared to what we expected, he's behaved himself quite well. I watched him at practice in training camp. He's playful with the fans, he signs autographs even when it's not his day to sign, and generally hasn't done anything wrong (especially when compared to players like Ocho and T.O. and some others).

I'm not sure I would break the bank for a guy his age. But he IS one of the best WRs in NFL history, and he's still got some tread on the tires.

Now, I grant you, I'm not sure if he wasn't motivated (i.e. playing for a new contract) if he'd be the same guy. Here in New England, he was trying to show the league he still "had it", and he was (is) trying to finally get a Super Bowl ring. If he went to a mid-level team that probably wasn't going to win a SB in the next year or two, I don't know how he'd act. So he's probably not worth the risk for KC. And, I don't even think he's worth the money for the Pats (who might cover his absence with promising rookies). But I don't think "quitter" is accurate.

He quit on Cassel toward the middle of the season, and came back, so to speak, when they tweaked the system to get more consistent production out of Cassel.

He quit in a game last year when the Patriots fell behind.

**bevischief** · 09-07-2010, 01:56 PM

JD10367 · 09-07-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

He quit on Cassel toward the middle of the season, and came back, so to speak, when they tweaked the system to get more consistent production out of Cassel.

Over 75 yard games in green; under 30 yard games in red.

2008
Week 1: Pats 17, KC 10. 6 rec, 116 yds
Week 2: Pats 19, Jets 10. 2 rec, 22 yds
Week 3: Miami 38, Pats 13. 4 rec, 25 yds
Week 5: Pats 30, SF 21. 5 rec, 111 yds
Week 6: SD 30, Pats 10. 3 rec, 26 yds
Week 7: Pats 41, Denver 7. 5 rec, 69 yds
Week 8: Pats 23, St. Louis 16. 7 rec, 102 yds
Week 9, Indy 18, Pats 15. 6 rec, 65 yds
Week 10: Pats 20, Buffalo 10. 5 rec, 53 yds
Week 11: Jets 34, Pats 31. 3 rec, 26 yds
Week 12: Pats 48, Miami 28. 8 rec, 125 yds
Week 13: Pitt 33, Pats 10. 4 rec, 45 yds
Week 14: Pats 24, Seattle 21. 3 rec, 56 yds
Week 15: Pats 49, Oakland 26. 5 rec, 67 yds
Week 16: Pats 47, Arizona 7. 2 rec, 87 yds
Week 17: Pats 13, Buffalo 0. 1 rec, 13 yds

He was actually pretty consistent, at least with his inconsistency.

And it still pisses me off that Cassel led that team to 11-5 and they STILL didn't make the playoffs.

Moss is Moss. Yeah, sometimes, he doesn't make the best effort on decoy routes. But to say he's a quitter is extreme, IMO. (Again, that doesn't mean he WOULDN'T be a quitter if a mediocre team handed him big money.)

Pioli Zombie · 09-07-2010, 03:01 PM

Yeah who wants one of the best receivers of all time? We're the Chiefs. We suck and we like it.

RedThat · 09-07-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Yeah who wants one of the best receivers of all time? We're the Chiefs. We suck and we like it.

Only the chiefs eh?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-07-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Yeah who wants one of the best receivers of all time? We're the Chiefs. We suck and we like it.

There were these two other "greats" you sent us once...

PASS.

Ugly Duck · 09-07-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Yeah, sometimes, he doesn't make the best effort on decoy routes. But to say he's a quitter is extreme

Unless he doesn't feel like playing on a given day.

Deberg_1990 · 09-07-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

But to say he's a quitter is extreme, IMO.

Oakland fan does not approve this post...

Pioli Zombie · 09-07-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR

There were these two other "greats" you sent us once...

PASS.

You are comparing a talent like Randy Moss to Cassel and Vrabel?

Rasputin · 09-07-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

You are comparing a talent like Randy Moss to Cassel and Vrabel?

& Ty Law don't forget him

May as well throw in Huard

30 yard hail mary · 09-07-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke

It would be alot nicer to get a guy entering his prime or in his prime. Moss would be an upgrade over Chambers yes, but I'd still rather go with younger players for longer term success.

some guys who are no longer in their prime are still better than alot of guys who are in their prime...

Rasputin · 09-07-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselMania

some guys who are no longer in their prime are still better than alot of guys who are in their prime...

But they don't last for two years with the Chiefs and then they are done. What's the point of bringing them here? He may be better to a point then they hit a brick wall. How many of them got us a Super Bowl in the last 40 years? Play off wins? We have been down that road through out Carl Peterson era. That's all we do is rehash players at the end of the trail for them. And that's why we are in this position to begin with. The team got old. Now we are in flux to get younger and the younger players are out playing the vets ten times fold.

Bring the quitter in, he is getting old and won't get his way with Haley. Let's bring the ****er in to please the "true fans".

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-07-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

You are comparing a talent like Randy Moss to Cassel and Vrabel?

At this stage in his career:

PLEASE keep him.

Pioli Zombie · 09-07-2010, 08:40 PM

It must have really sucked having Montana and Allen here. Those guys weren't in their prime after all.

milkman · 09-07-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

It must have really sucked having Montana and Allen here. Those guys weren't in their prime after all.

Did the Chiefs win a SB?

Did Montana last more than 2 years?

I have always said that bringing Montana in, without a viable backup plan, was a bad idea.

The window for any chance at a SB closed the day he retired.

We didn't have any other QB in the 90s that had any chance at overcoming Martyocrity.

A 2 year window sucked ass.

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