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Old 09-09-2010, 03:52 PM   #1
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Does his performance vs BYU change your mind? To me theres no doubt he's a Cassel clown.
did you watch the game?
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:59 PM   #2
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I admittedly didn't see the BYU game, but I am still on the Locker bandwagon.

I think the kid turns into the next Steve Young. Its a shame we wont draft high enough to have a shot at him.

Mallet needs to show his accuracy is improved. I haven't been impressed with him in this category. In this offense, it is crucial to be very accurate because its predicated on RAC yards. This is why I was so high on Jimmy Clausen.

Luck wont be in a NFL draft for at least another year. He has basically already said so a few times.

Gabbert is an overrated spread monkey that couldn't hit 60% completions and will only be a junior if he comes out in the next draft. He would need to show a hell of a lot this year to be considered as a first rounder for us after only starting for one year.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:02 PM   #3
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Gabbert is an overrated spread monkey that couldn't hit 60% completions and will only be a junior if he comes out in the next draft. He would need to show a hell of a lot this year to be considered as a first rounder for us after only starting for one year.
I'm not a Missouri fan, but, ah, didn't Gabbert start last year?
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:03 PM   #4
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I'm not a Missouri fan, but, ah, didn't Gabbert start last year?
He did. It would be two years starting experience under his belt.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:14 PM   #5
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any QB we draft is going to be around longer than Weis

i hope to hell we wouldn't exclude QBs because they aren't a fit for the Cassel offense....
Well, with all due disrespect to Cassel, its not his offense. Weis' scheme calls for a bunch of RAC and even in the spread Gabbert couldn't crack 60% passing.

Red Flag right there.

So far, he has only started one year is what I meant.

Apologizes for that being misunderstood.

If Gabbert completes more than 65% of his passes and holds his YPA strong and shows to not have injury concerns (that might arise again) he will be in the talks, but not until he does those things. He will be a project, but he needs to show he can progress before he gets into the conversation for our first rounder.

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Old 09-09-2010, 04:20 PM   #6
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Well, with all due disrespect to Cassel, its not his offense. Weis' scheme calls for a bunch of RAC and even in the spread Gabbert couldn't crack 60% passing.

Red Flag right there.

So far, he has only started one year is what I meant.

Apologizes for that being misunderstood.

If Gabbert completes more than 65% of his passes and holds his YPA strong and shows to not have injury concerns (that might arise again) he will be in the talks, but not until he does those things. He will be a project, but he needs to show he can progress before he gets into the conversation for our first rounder.

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no, i know what you meant...i just never pass up a dig at my boy Cassel

i just hope we'd take the best QB, and design an offense around him as opposed to the other way round
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Old 09-10-2010, 07:09 AM   #7
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Well, with all due disrespect to Cassel, its not his offense. Weis' scheme calls for a bunch of RAC and even in the spread Gabbert couldn't crack 60% passing.

Red Flag right there.
He completed 59% of his passes last year while playing 1/2 of the season with a high ankle sprain on his plant foot. In his first game this year he completed 71%. It's just going to be "wait-n-see" as to which is the real Gabbert, I guess.
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He did. It would be two years starting experience under his belt.
Do me a favor ok...

show me a list of underclassmen quarterbacks with only two years starting experience, played in a spread and had less than 60% comp% to have a successful career after being drafted in the first round. You can probably list them on one hand, if not one finger. Then go ahead and add in all the rest that were drafted in the rest of the draft.

Ill wait.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:03 PM   #9
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I admittedly didn't see the BYU game, but I am still on the Locker bandwagon.

I think the kid turns into the next Steve Young. Its a shame we wont draft high enough to have a shot at him.

Mallet needs to show his accuracy is improved. I haven't been impressed with him in this category. In this offense, it is crucial to be very accurate because its predicated on RAC yards. This is why I was so high on Jimmy Clausen.

Luck wont be in a NFL draft for at least another year. He has basically already said so a few times.

Gabbert is an overrated spread monkey that couldn't hit 60% completions and will only be a junior if he comes out in the next draft. He would need to show a hell of a lot this year to be considered as a first rounder for us after only starting for one year.
any QB we draft is going to be around longer than Weis

i hope to hell we wouldn't exclude QBs because they aren't a fit for the Cassel offense....
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Gabbert is a way more accurate QB than Locker. If we hate Cassel for not being able to complete 60% of his throws how are you going to like Locker whos never completed 60% of his passes for a whole season?
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:21 PM   #11
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Gabbert is a way more accurate QB than Locker. If we hate Cassel for not being able to complete 60% of his throws how are you going to like Locker whos never completed 60% of his passes for a whole season?
Locker needs to improve in this area.

No doubt.

But his other skills offer up a better whole package IMO

Like I said, I see him as a guy that could develop into a Steve Young type player under Weis.

I would be totally fine with trading up to get him, even if it would cost us a top ten and a second rounder.
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I'm kind of relived this year...usually i have skin in the game for a specific QB (like stafford) and have to argue all the tards...


i really haven't watched any of these QBs play much...so, I can just listen to the arguments and hope we take someone, the right one....
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I'm kind of relived this year...usually i have skin in the game for a specific QB (like stafford) and have to argue all the tards...
This year is going to seem like a QB buffet for me after the last 5 or 6 drafts. I've seen exactly four QBs I wanted, Flacco, Rodgers, Ryan and Stafford, since the year Eli and Rivers (and Roethlisberger) came out. Just four, in all that time.
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This year is going to seem like a QB buffet for me after the last 5 or 6 drafts. I've seen exactly four QBs I wanted, Flacco, Rodgers, Ryan and Stafford, since the year Eli and Rivers (and Roethlisberger) came out. Just four, in all that time.


i'm a little more promiscuous when it comes to qbs....
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i'm a little more promiscuous when it comes to qbs....
I guess I could throw in a 5th - I'd have been okay with Clausen, since we had the inside track on him. But other than that, I haven't seen much that I liked.

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