KU Turner Gill has lost his fkng mind - Page 4

**ChiTown** · 09-29-2010, 03:02 PM

Who gives a shit about cell phones, but a man needs pussy. Just sayin....

In Kansas, Turner Gill Becomes the Wizard of Odd

9/29/2010 12:39 PM ET By Clay Travis

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Clay Travis
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Want to be out after 10 at night in the presence of a woman? Good luck, if you're a football player in Lawrence, Kan. Correction, make that a college football player in Lawrence; high school gridders have greater freedoms these days than anyone on the Jayhawks.

The "no women after 10 p.m." rule is one of first-year head coach Turner Gill's rules for the Kansas football team. The rule isn't just for public interaction, you also violate it if you're in the presence of a woman at her place or yours. While Gill has acknowledged that proving a violation is difficult, according to KUSports.com, "he (Gill) explained the penalty would be more severe if a KU player was involved with an incident and it was discovered that the player had broken the policy."

More severe?

What if the player isn't doing anything at all but hanging out with a member of the opposite sex? And 10 at night? Ten? Coaches are fond of saying nothing good happens after midnight -- which is completely wrong, by the way. Expanding that cliche to encompass nothing good happening before the nightly news is over? Most nursing home residents are living scandalous lifestyles compared to the antediluvian restrictions that Gill is foisting upon his players.

Is Gill aware coed dorms exist? What happens then? Do players have to show up every morning at five to run wind sprints as penance for having the temerity to live in the same building with unmarried women? Already, despite the opposite-sex prohibitions, Kansas has lost to North Dakota State in its home opener. Can you imagine how badly the Jayhawks might have lost to North Dakota State if players had been allowed to speak with women after 10?

I can, it might have been 9-3 instead of 6-3.

In order to pull off this road win and counteract the female prohibition at Kansas, North Dakota State's entire team must have pledged to be celibate for the rest of their lives. A small price to pay for a Saturday win.

How can you expect a college student to behave like a man when you insist on treating him like a child?
Turner Gill's expansive directives aimed at controlling his players every waking moment are the latest examples of football coaches becoming more and more like totalitarian dictators each year. Freedom of communication grows for college students? Football coaches push back in the opposite direction, limiting those freedoms in a misguided attempt to tighten the reins of program discipline. Facebook? Some coaches are banning it. Twitter? Boise State's Chris Petersen began the banning rush in the offseason. Now, Kansas doesn't want its football players around women at night. What's next, players not allowed to have cell phones?

Too late.

Kansas players can't do that either, not in the 24 hours leading up to a game, anyway. That's because the Kansas coaching staff confiscates the players' cell phones and won't return them until after the game. I'm not making this up. They actually take the phones. A parent or family member needing to reach your child in the event of emergency? You call the director of football operations.

Keep in mind, these are grown-ass men. Not seventh graders. Not adolescents. Grown men who could serve their country overseas, grown men who may be parents themselves, grown men who are being treated like infants unable to make their own decisions and handle their own priorities. How can you expect a college student to behave like a man when you insist on treating him like a child? As countless parents have already learned, stifling personal freedom doesn't lead to growth, it leads to greater dependence.

Football coaches want their players to be gridiron monks, the Dalia Lama with a 425-pound bench press. They want automatons walled off from the rest of the world who believe that the full import of their lives begins and ends in the 60 minutes they spend each week on the football field. But in today's era doesn't that control defeat the entire purpose of attending college? If, as the NCAA constantly argues -- most of our athletes are going pro in something other than sports -- then how does it help athletes to wall them off from the surrounding community of students?

Nor does this even consider the legalities at play here. Can a coach even have a written rule that would limit contact with women after 10 at night? Can a coach demand that a player relinquish his physical property for a period of time if that player doesn't want to? As a lawyer, I don't think so. If a player challenged these rules, I think he'd be able to prove that they were beyond the scope of his scholarship acceptance.

Indeed, it's a true shame that Kansas' faculty has allowed restrictions like these to take root for any students, regardless of who they are or what group they're associated with. Imagine if, for instance, a student association on campus had a written policy that all members, under threat of penalty, could not speak to members of the opposite sex on campus after 10 at night. Would that pass without faculty comment? I doubt it.

Restrictions like these represent the antithesis of what collegiate life is supposed to entail. Most students learn more from each other than they ever do from their books. Most men learn more about women in college than they've ever learned before. Indeed, by restricting student interaction with the opposite sex to limited hours, Gill is sending the message to his team that women are the enemy, modern day Bathshebas, existing only to tempt and lead them astray from their true purpose on the campus.

Which is to play football games.

And that's ultimately the real issue here, all of these restrictions strip away the fig leaf of academia, that these players are regular students who just happen to play sports. The reality is something much different of course, these are football players who just happen to be students. By placing these restrictions on his players Gill proves that even as a 48-year-old coach he still hasn't learned the most important lesson a football player can learn.

There is life outside of football.

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Pants · 09-29-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Unless you have a girlfriend, your not hittin' it before midnight.

Nah, as a football player, you're hitting it whenever you want, wherever you want. It's still a dumbass rule.

KCUnited · 09-29-2010, 03:35 PM

I hate pussy anyway. /wickedson

**ChiTown** · 09-29-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

I hate pussy anyway. /wickedson

Hug it Out Dan · 09-29-2010, 03:36 PM

HAHAHA, this is going to KILL recruiting there.

Part of going to college is to MEET/INTERACT WOMEN.

I wonder how many players will get suspended for violating this stupid rule. I would quit the ****ing team and request for a transfer. That shit is stupid. You can play football and go to school, and have fun while being responsible. Yes kids are going to do stupid shit and get into trouble sometimes. That's life. He's turning players college experience into a ****ing corrections facility.

Even the cell phone thing is over the edge......maybe if they were in a big bowl game on the road or something if they really wanna be strict about it. But Gill's a ****in moron.

**Saulbadguy** · 09-29-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I also heard that Bill Snyder won't allow flatbilled hats or earrings. And you have to cover long hair.

Bill Snyder does not allow butter pats at the training table.

|Zach| · 09-29-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

I hate pussy anyway. /wickedson

Hug it Out Dan · 09-29-2010, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Where the **** are you idiots getting this "no women"? It's after 10pm. That's pretty easy to get around. Just have them over earlier. Or don't get caught doing something bad or illegal and nobody will ever know.

Were you the one growing up where you had to be home by 9pm?

Titty Meat · 09-29-2010, 03:43 PM

Hug it Out Dan · 09-29-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

From what I've heard, TCU has the same cell phone policy. BYU and Utah have similar conduct standards. It's basically to say the KU football comes first. Those guys are on scholarship to play football first. Yeah, it may lose them some recruits. But I think if Gill wins, most recruits won't care.

Well he's not winning games he should, and he just made it harder on himself.

no recruit in their right mind is gonna want to deal with this shit.

Hug it Out Dan · 09-29-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Oh, and if I'm a current player there, I just buy a "Pay as you Go Phone" and turn that sumbitch in every night while continuing to use my real phone.

bingo

Fritz88 · 09-29-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

This should make recruiting Kansas even more easier.

It should make firing his ass easier.

**DeezNutz** · 09-29-2010, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

I never said I cared that much for the policy. I just understand what he's trying to do with it. That being said, I think you guys are blowing it way out of proportion. Just my opinion, of course.

This post is blowing it at 5:00 PM, and Turner Gill says that's fine. It's that after-10:00 ass that saps the strength.

Rooster · 09-29-2010, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

This should make recruiting Kansas even more easier.

They can only target gay football players.

Pitt Gorilla · 09-29-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

That is the rule inside the Vanier Football Complex - only.

What could possibly be wrong with a flat-billed hat? Aren't they sold that way?

I think my dad wore his seed caps that way for 50 years.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-29-2010, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

What could possibly be wrong with a flat-billed hat? Aren't they sold that way?

I think my dad wore his seed caps that way for 50 years.

Considered too "gangsta".

09-29-2010, 03:02 PM
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $-511038	Turner Gill has lost his fkng mind Who gives a shit about cell phones, but a man needs pussy. Just sayin.... In Kansas, Turner Gill Becomes the Wizard of Odd 9/29/2010 12:39 PM ET By Clay Travis AText Size Print this page\|EmailShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on DiggShare on Lifestream Clay Travis Senior NCAA Writer Want to be out after 10 at night in the presence of a woman? Good luck, if you're a football player in Lawrence, Kan. Correction, make that a college football player in Lawrence; high school gridders have greater freedoms these days than anyone on the Jayhawks. The "no women after 10 p.m." rule is one of first-year head coach Turner Gill's rules for the Kansas football team. The rule isn't just for public interaction, you also violate it if you're in the presence of a woman at her place or yours. While Gill has acknowledged that proving a violation is difficult, according to KUSports.com, "he (Gill) explained the penalty would be more severe if a KU player was involved with an incident and it was discovered that the player had broken the policy." More severe? What if the player isn't doing anything at all but hanging out with a member of the opposite sex? And 10 at night? Ten? Coaches are fond of saying nothing good happens after midnight -- which is completely wrong, by the way. Expanding that cliche to encompass nothing good happening before the nightly news is over? Most nursing home residents are living scandalous lifestyles compared to the antediluvian restrictions that Gill is foisting upon his players. Is Gill aware coed dorms exist? What happens then? Do players have to show up every morning at five to run wind sprints as penance for having the temerity to live in the same building with unmarried women? Already, despite the opposite-sex prohibitions, Kansas has lost to North Dakota State in its home opener. Can you imagine how badly the Jayhawks might have lost to North Dakota State if players had been allowed to speak with women after 10? I can, it might have been 9-3 instead of 6-3. In order to pull off this road win and counteract the female prohibition at Kansas, North Dakota State's entire team must have pledged to be celibate for the rest of their lives. A small price to pay for a Saturday win. How can you expect a college student to behave like a man when you insist on treating him like a child? Turner Gill's expansive directives aimed at controlling his players every waking moment are the latest examples of football coaches becoming more and more like totalitarian dictators each year. Freedom of communication grows for college students? Football coaches push back in the opposite direction, limiting those freedoms in a misguided attempt to tighten the reins of program discipline. Facebook? Some coaches are banning it. Twitter? Boise State's Chris Petersen began the banning rush in the offseason. Now, Kansas doesn't want its football players around women at night. What's next, players not allowed to have cell phones? Too late. Kansas players can't do that either, not in the 24 hours leading up to a game, anyway. That's because the Kansas coaching staff confiscates the players' cell phones and won't return them until after the game. I'm not making this up. They actually take the phones. A parent or family member needing to reach your child in the event of emergency? You call the director of football operations. Keep in mind, these are grown-ass men. Not seventh graders. Not adolescents. Grown men who could serve their country overseas, grown men who may be parents themselves, grown men who are being treated like infants unable to make their own decisions and handle their own priorities. How can you expect a college student to behave like a man when you insist on treating him like a child? As countless parents have already learned, stifling personal freedom doesn't lead to growth, it leads to greater dependence. Football coaches want their players to be gridiron monks, the Dalia Lama with a 425-pound bench press. They want automatons walled off from the rest of the world who believe that the full import of their lives begins and ends in the 60 minutes they spend each week on the football field. But in today's era doesn't that control defeat the entire purpose of attending college? If, as the NCAA constantly argues -- most of our athletes are going pro in something other than sports -- then how does it help athletes to wall them off from the surrounding community of students? Nor does this even consider the legalities at play here. Can a coach even have a written rule that would limit contact with women after 10 at night? Can a coach demand that a player relinquish his physical property for a period of time if that player doesn't want to? As a lawyer, I don't think so. If a player challenged these rules, I think he'd be able to prove that they were beyond the scope of his scholarship acceptance. Indeed, it's a true shame that Kansas' faculty has allowed restrictions like these to take root for any students, regardless of who they are or what group they're associated with. Imagine if, for instance, a student association on campus had a written policy that all members, under threat of penalty, could not speak to members of the opposite sex on campus after 10 at night. Would that pass without faculty comment? I doubt it. Restrictions like these represent the antithesis of what collegiate life is supposed to entail. Most students learn more from each other than they ever do from their books. Most men learn more about women in college than they've ever learned before. Indeed, by restricting student interaction with the opposite sex to limited hours, Gill is sending the message to his team that women are the enemy, modern day Bathshebas, existing only to tempt and lead them astray from their true purpose on the campus. Which is to play football games. And that's ultimately the real issue here, all of these restrictions strip away the fig leaf of academia, that these players are regular students who just happen to play sports. The reality is something much different of course, these are football players who just happen to be students. By placing these restrictions on his players Gill proves that even as a 48-year-old coach he still hasn't learned the most important lesson a football player can learn. There is life outside of football. http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/201...wizard-of-odd/
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Hug it Out Dan Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	HAHAHA, this is going to KILL recruiting there. Part of going to college is to MEET/INTERACT WOMEN. I wonder how many players will get suspended for violating this stupid rule. I would quit the **ing team and request for a transfer. That shit is stupid. You can play football and go to school, and have fun while being responsible. Yes kids are going to do stupid shit and get into trouble sometimes. That's life. He's turning players college experience into a ing corrections facility. Even the cell phone thing is over the edge......maybe if they were in a big bowl game on the road or something if they really wanna be strict about it. But Gill's a **in moron.
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