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T-post Tom · 10:19 PM

How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts
by Patrick Allen
Sep 30th

The Kansas City Chiefs won’t take on the Indianapolis Colts until October 10th but you can bet Todd Haley and his coaching staff are using their “week off” to work.

Here at Arrowhead Addict, we’re doing the same.

The Chiefs are still not getting respect from the national media. Don’t confuse KC’s recent mentions in the national press as respect. They are just mentions. The “experts” have to mention that the Chiefs are 3-0 and they have to mention that it is remarkable but that doesn’t mean they respect them and it certainly doesn’t mean they think the Chiefs stand a snowballs chance in hell of knocking off the Colts on the road.

They might be right. Peyton Manning is one of the best QB’s ever and as some of our astute readers pointed out earlier today, the Colts are nearly unbeatable at home. Since 2005 the Colts are 35 and 6 at home.

Despite their record the Chiefs are still developing. They have a very, very young secondary. The type of secondary Peyton Manning puts in an omelet and eats for breakfast.

Yet given all that, I think the Chiefs are perfectly constructed to beat the Indianapolis Colts.

Ok, maybe not perfectly constructed. It would help if the Chiefs had Joe Montana at QB instead of Matt Cassel but you have to play with the guys you’ve got.

While game planning for the Colts, the Chiefs need to look no farther than the Houston Texans.

Houston is the only team to beat the Colts this year and they exposed in the first game weaknesses that Indi’s last two opponents have failed to take advantage of. Whether the Texans stumbled upon their victory by planning or luck, it worked and the Chiefs would be fools not to look pretty hard at the Texans Week 1 box score.

I’m no fool so I’ve done just that. The way the Texans beat the Colts was very simple.

They ran it down their freaking throats.

For years the Texans have been getting into shootouts with Peyton Manning and for years Manning has beat them. Not this year.

The Texans beat the mighty Indianapolis Colts with a measly 98 yards passing.

Matt Shaub, normally a very good QB capable of putting up huge numbers, attempted only 17 passes to Manning’s 57.

No the Texans ran on the Colts. The pounded the ball with Arian Foster, who racked up 231 yards. In the end the Texans gashed Indi’s pitiful run defense for 257 yards and 3 rushing touchdowns.

On the defensive side of the ball, the Texans weren’t delusional enough to believe they could shut down Manning. Nobody can shut down Manning.

Peyton completed a ridiculous 40 of 57 passes for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns.

More than a few times the Texans let Manning march down into their territory before tightening up their D. They avoided letting Manning get the big play, giving him the underneath stuff. They let him get his numbers.

They got the victory.

The Chiefs have a team constructed to implement a similar game plan. They have a quick and athletic secondary that knows how to tackle. They should be able to keep the Colts receivers in front of them. When the Colts get into Chiefs territory, Flowers, Carr, Berry and Lewis should be able to tighten up enough to hold the Colts to some FG’s.

When the Chiefs have the ball they have to take advantage of Indi’s 29th ranked run defense. The Colts are giving up an average of 141.3 yards per game while the Chiefs are averaging 160.7 yards rushing. This won’t be a repeat of the 2007 Wild Card Playoffs. Bob Sanders isn’t coming back. The Colts aren’t going to suddenly learn how to stop the run. If the Chiefs can gash the Colts on the ground they should be able to score without Matt Cassel needing to throw for 400 yards.

The Chiefs will have to be opportunistic. They won’t be able to turn the ball over and they had better continue to avoid penalties.

If they can do these things I think the Chiefs have a legitimate shot at shocking the world.

A couple of special teams touchdowns wouldn’t hurt either.

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/09/3...eat-the-colts/

It'd be a lot easier if we could have Bernie "Flashdance" Pollard for just one play. [Which would make Curtis Painter our starting QB next year.

]

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-30-2010, 11:18 PM

For the record here peeps, Arian Foster's totals are as follow:

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Week 1 against the Colts: 33 carries, 231 yards

Week 2 against the Skins: 19 carries, 69 yards

Week 3 against the Girls: 17 carries, 106 yards

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Let's see what he does in the meantime but if you throw out the Colts game, his numbers are pedestrian at best.

**BossChief** · 09-30-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaiko

Hillis is a better runner than JH I think anyways.

And Frank Gore not much? The guy has been consistently one of the top 10 runners in in the league for the past few years.

Foster has ran very well. Torched Indy, ran pretty solid against the Redskins, and also good against the Boys. The passing offense really helps open it up for him though.

My point is that I think that Gore, Matthews and Harrison/Hillis were better tests for our run defense (that we passed) than Foster, Addai and Don Brown will be. What those guys did against other defenses just further shows the leaps and bounds ourr rush defense has gone through to be a damn good unit. I am anxious to see where our secondary is at right now against those passing games though...should be as good of tests to the pass defense as those guys were to our run defense.

Dante84 · 09-30-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

For the record here peeps, Arian Foster's totals are as follow:

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Week 1 against the Colts: 33 carries, 231 yards

Week 2 against the Skins: 19 carries, 69 yards

Week 3 against the Girls: 17 carries, 106 yards

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Let's see what he does in the meantime but if you throw out the Colts game, his numbers are pedestrian at best.

I am not super familiar with Foster's running style. Is he more like Jones, or Charles?

Dante84 · 09-30-2010, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

My point is that I think that Gore, Matthews and Harrison/Hillis were better tests for our run defense (that we passed) than Foster, Addai and Don Brown will be. What those guys did against other defenses just further shows the leaps and bounds ourr rush defense has gone through to be a damn good unit. I am anxious to see where our secondary is at right now against those passing games though...should be as good of tests to the pass defense as those guys were to our run defense.

Foster is on the Texans...

edit: unless you are looking to week 6!

Zaiko · 09-30-2010, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

My point is that I think that Gore, Matthews and Harrison/Hillis were better tests for our run defense (that we passed) than Foster, Addai and Don Brown will be. What those guys did against other defenses just further shows the leaps and bounds ourr rush defense has gone through to be a damn good unit. I am anxious to see where our secondary is at right now against those passing games though...should be as good of tests to the pass defense as those guys were to our run defense.

Oh okay I misread your last post.

Foster is a good runner, and I don't know how much we can compare him to the last 3 weeks because it's a much more loaded offense, and it won't be raining.

That said, our rush D has looked good so far, and I'm interested to see how we'll do against these passing games as well.

**BossChief** · 09-30-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Foster is on the Texans...

yeah, I am talking about the tests we face in the run defense in coming weeks versus what we have already faced and am saying Im not scared one bit of the upcoming tests.

I hope we can do so with our pass defense in a few weeks, is my ultimate point I am trying to build towards.

Time will tell, as always.

**BossChief** · 09-30-2010, 11:32 PM

If Flowers is the guy I think he is...he will severely limit the effectiveness of BOTH Wayne and AJ in coming weeks...allowing Berry to help out the rest of the secondary to be opportunistic.

Hopefully we can get to the quarterback without blitzing very much, so these guys have a chance to compete on an equal playing field with two of the best passing games in the whole league.

-King- · 09-30-2010, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

If Flowers is the guy I think he is...he will severely limit the effectiveness of BOTH Wayne and AJ in coming weeks...allowing Berry to help out the rest of the secondary to be opportunistic.

Hopefully we can get to the quarterback without blitzing very much, so these guys have a chance to compete on an equal playing field with two of the best passing games in the whole league.

You know...Flowers is a beast and all...but AJ is just on another ****ing level. If he is close to or at 100% by week 6, then...I don't know, but I don't know if Flowers can really "limit" him.

But I do think Flowers can handle Wayne.

T-post Tom · 09-30-2010, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

If Flowers is the guy I think he is...he will severely limit the effectiveness of BOTH Wayne and AJ in coming weeks...allowing Berry to help out the rest of the secondary to be opportunistic.

Hopefully we can get to the quarterback without blitzing very much, so these guys have a chance to compete on an equal playing field with two of the best passing games in the whole league.

Well Flowers is no Revis. Just tell Brandon to check his text messages for confirmation. Time for a break, everyone s-t-r-e-t-c-h....

**BossChief** · 09-30-2010, 11:41 PM

If Flowers isn't on the level of Revis, then show me a game or two that ANYONE got the better of him...

Ill be waiting.

I think Flowers on Andre will be a damn good test on how good the kid really is, I think he is a top 3 quality corner in the NFL...and I think that Flowers will jump at least one route in the Indy game when PM tries to force the ball to Wayne and just might take the ball to the house depending on where the pick takes place. He will surely be waiting on a few routes to materialize and will bait PM into a pick or two the way Ty Law used to.

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Considering Arian Foster (who?) rushed for more than 200 yards against the Colts in a Texans win, the Chiefs have better than a 60% chance to win.

Especially considering they have two weeks to prepare.

you keep saying some DUMB ****ING SHIT Dane

Holy hell my man.

Holy hell.

The Colts lost 1 game at home last year (the game they let the Jets win with the Curtis Painter debacle)...

The Colts are the creme de la creme of the NFL...

and you're giving our Chiefs a 60% chance to beat them on the road?

REALLY?

REALLY?

And this is one of our board "geniouses"...

the same guy that said we'd lose by 20+ to San Diego...

so thanks for the kiss of death asshole

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-30-2010, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

the same guy that said we'd lose by 20+ to San Diego...

There's been a few improvements since last season and this season, no? So, my assessment of the San Diego game was off, but that was based on 2009 and the preseaon ONLY.

I've picked the Chiefs to win the past two weeks.

And 60% isn't 100%, is it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

so thanks for the kiss of death asshole

Like I care.

I'm an "asshole" whether I pick the Chiefs or not, right?

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 11:54 PM

60% is a ridiculous prediction....

how in GOD'S name are you giving the Chiefs 60% to beat a team that has won 12+ games like I don't know, 8 years in a row...

That's just...stupid. That's a stupid, stupid, stupid prediction. Just like your Chargers prediction week 1.

Maybe I'm a pessimist when it comes to teams playing the Colts...but I give us a 10% chance, tops...I give us a 0.5% chance of gaining 200 yards on the ground...

and the only chance of us winning is if we convert our 3rd downs at a higher rate than the Colts (unlikely) and force at least 2 turnovers.

T-post Tom · 09-30-2010, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

If Flowers isn't on the level of Revis, then show me a game or two that ANYONE got the better of him...

Ill be waiting.

I think Flowers on Andre will be a damn good test on how good the kid really is, I think he is a top 3 quality corner in the NFL...and I think that Flowers will jump at least one route in the Indy game when PM tries to force the ball to Wayne and just might take the ball to the house depending on where the pick takes place. He will surely be waiting on a few routes to materialize and will bait PM into a pick or two the way Ty Law used to.

I love Flowers and was just cracking on what Haley said about giving Flowers a hard time. That said, ANYONE looks better vs. A.S. as opposed to P.M. Should be a great game if everyone plays to their potential.

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 11:59 PM

I've been a Chiefs optimist my whole life.

I love the fact we're 3-0 this year...

I love our talent...I love our playmakers...and I love the identity/discipline our team has...

but to think we're going to go into Indianapolis and beat the Colts...that's just pure homerism...and it will take a miracle to happen.

and for the record...

I think we're going to win the AFC West with a record of, at the very least, 10-6.

09-30-2010, 10:06 PM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1767293	How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts by Patrick Allen Sep 30th The Kansas City Chiefs won’t take on the Indianapolis Colts until October 10th but you can bet Todd Haley and his coaching staff are using their “week off” to work. Here at Arrowhead Addict, we’re doing the same. The Chiefs are still not getting respect from the national media. Don’t confuse KC’s recent mentions in the national press as respect. They are just mentions. The “experts” have to mention that the Chiefs are 3-0 and they have to mention that it is remarkable but that doesn’t mean they respect them and it certainly doesn’t mean they think the Chiefs stand a snowballs chance in hell of knocking off the Colts on the road. They might be right. Peyton Manning is one of the best QB’s ever and as some of our astute readers pointed out earlier today, the Colts are nearly unbeatable at home. Since 2005 the Colts are 35 and 6 at home. Despite their record the Chiefs are still developing. They have a very, very young secondary. The type of secondary Peyton Manning puts in an omelet and eats for breakfast. Yet given all that, I think the Chiefs are perfectly constructed to beat the Indianapolis Colts. Ok, maybe not perfectly constructed. It would help if the Chiefs had Joe Montana at QB instead of Matt Cassel but you have to play with the guys you’ve got. While game planning for the Colts, the Chiefs need to look no farther than the Houston Texans. Houston is the only team to beat the Colts this year and they exposed in the first game weaknesses that Indi’s last two opponents have failed to take advantage of. Whether the Texans stumbled upon their victory by planning or luck, it worked and the Chiefs would be fools not to look pretty hard at the Texans Week 1 box score. I’m no fool so I’ve done just that. The way the Texans beat the Colts was very simple. They ran it down their freaking throats. For years the Texans have been getting into shootouts with Peyton Manning and for years Manning has beat them. Not this year. The Texans beat the mighty Indianapolis Colts with a measly 98 yards passing. Matt Shaub, normally a very good QB capable of putting up huge numbers, attempted only 17 passes to Manning’s 57. No the Texans ran on the Colts. The pounded the ball with Arian Foster, who racked up 231 yards. In the end the Texans gashed Indi’s pitiful run defense for 257 yards and 3 rushing touchdowns. On the defensive side of the ball, the Texans weren’t delusional enough to believe they could shut down Manning. Nobody can shut down Manning. Peyton completed a ridiculous 40 of 57 passes for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns. More than a few times the Texans let Manning march down into their territory before tightening up their D. They avoided letting Manning get the big play, giving him the underneath stuff. They let him get his numbers. They got the victory. The Chiefs have a team constructed to implement a similar game plan. They have a quick and athletic secondary that knows how to tackle. They should be able to keep the Colts receivers in front of them. When the Colts get into Chiefs territory, Flowers, Carr, Berry and Lewis should be able to tighten up enough to hold the Colts to some FG’s. When the Chiefs have the ball they have to take advantage of Indi’s 29th ranked run defense. The Colts are giving up an average of 141.3 yards per game while the Chiefs are averaging 160.7 yards rushing. This won’t be a repeat of the 2007 Wild Card Playoffs. Bob Sanders isn’t coming back. The Colts aren’t going to suddenly learn how to stop the run. If the Chiefs can gash the Colts on the ground they should be able to score without Matt Cassel needing to throw for 400 yards. The Chiefs will have to be opportunistic. They won’t be able to turn the ball over and they had better continue to avoid penalties. If they can do these things I think the Chiefs have a legitimate shot at shocking the world. A couple of special teams touchdowns wouldn’t hurt either. http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/09/3...eat-the-colts/ It'd be a lot easier if we could have Bernie "Flashdance" Pollard for just one play. [Which would make Curtis Painter our starting QB next year. ] Last edited by T-post Tom; 09-30-2010 at 10:19 PM..
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09-30-2010, 11:18 PM	#46
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	For the record here peeps, Arian Foster's totals are as follow: --------------------- Week 1 against the Colts: 33 carries, 231 yards Week 2 against the Skins: 19 carries, 69 yards Week 3 against the Girls: 17 carries, 106 yards --------------------- Let's see what he does in the meantime but if you throw out the Colts game, his numbers are pedestrian at best.
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09-30-2010, 11:32 PM	#52
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1715912	If Flowers is the guy I think he is...he will severely limit the effectiveness of BOTH Wayne and AJ in coming weeks...allowing Berry to help out the rest of the secondary to be opportunistic. Hopefully we can get to the quarterback without blitzing very much, so these guys have a chance to compete on an equal playing field with two of the best passing games in the whole league. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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09-30-2010, 11:41 PM	#55
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1715912	If Flowers isn't on the level of Revis, then show me a game or two that ANYONE got the better of him... Ill be waiting. I think Flowers on Andre will be a damn good test on how good the kid really is, I think he is a top 3 quality corner in the NFL...and I think that Flowers will jump at least one route in the Indy game when PM tries to force the ball to Wayne and just might take the ball to the house depending on where the pick takes place. He will surely be waiting on a few routes to materialize and will bait PM into a pick or two the way Ty Law used to. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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09-30-2010, 11:54 PM	#58
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	60% is a ridiculous prediction.... how in GOD'S name are you giving the Chiefs 60% to beat a team that has won 12+ games like I don't know, 8 years in a row... That's just...stupid. That's a stupid, stupid, stupid prediction. Just like your Chargers prediction week 1. Maybe I'm a pessimist when it comes to teams playing the Colts...but I give us a 10% chance, tops...I give us a 0.5% chance of gaining 200 yards on the ground... and the only chance of us winning is if we convert our 3rd downs at a higher rate than the Colts (unlikely) and force at least 2 turnovers.
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09-30-2010, 11:59 PM	#60
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I've been a Chiefs optimist my whole life. I love the fact we're 3-0 this year... I love our talent...I love our playmakers...and I love the identity/discipline our team has... but to think we're going to go into Indianapolis and beat the Colts...that's just pure homerism...and it will take a miracle to happen. and for the record... I think we're going to win the AFC West with a record of, at the very least, 10-6.
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