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I love me some Neilbonics...
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Neil went to Denver to stick it to the Chiefs.
Plain and simple. That "Now I get to play for the good guys" comment he told Horseface should ban him from Arrowhead for life. He should NEVER have been put in the team HOF. He doesn't belong there, nor does Jack Steadman. Steadman was Lamar's room mate at SMU, and ran the team into the ground for 20 years after Stram left. He ran the Chiefs and Worlds of Fun, at the same time, and in exactly the same manner. Both as light, mindless entertainment. He was the ultimate Nepotism/Peter Principle in action. Yeah, he worked there a long time, and he was the GM when Arrowhead was built, but so what? How many Superbowls did he win? Zip. How many playoff games did he win? Zip. How come the Chiefs don't measure success by what they've won? Everybody else does. Perhaps that's why they haven't sniffed the Superbowl in more than 40 years. I'm grumpy today. And I despise Neil Smith. Whoever brought his name up should be slapped. |
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You think you can get by this?
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Not too many people were there, but, if you look to the right of Neil, you can see a fellow Planeteer. That would be Direckshun.
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F *** "Bronco" Neil Smith!!!!!!!!
Take your illiterate ass back to Denver and beg Elway to be in their ring of fame you dickless reerun.
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I'll be back.
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You need to wash and burn that shirt.
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He is a POS - He lived out by me in Blue Springs, till he walked away from his 1.2M house which sold at auction last year for about 460K. I've had 3 interactions with the guy over the years and all 3 times he was a total douchebag each time. The first was on a flight to New Orleans back in his playing days. He came on board in a dashiki with the matching hat. He was sitting in first and I was in the first row of coach. He was talking on his cell phone when the flight attendent told him he'd need to turn it off as we were getting ready to pull away from the gate. He dropped the "do you know who I am?" line on her and kept right on going for a few more seconds before finally finishing his call. The second was at the annual easter egg hunt they have in Blue Springs. My two youngest sons were hunting eggs and my oldest (he was 12 or so at the time and a huge Chiefs fan) recognozed Smith and said he wanted to say hi to him. We walked over towards him and he puts his hand up before we're within 10' and says - "uh uh, I'm with my family" - My son was just going to say hi, no autographs- just wanted to hello to a Chief. In fairness, Smith was actually there with his family - so at least he wasn't lying. The last time was a couple years ago at Dick's Sporting Goods in Independence. He was there with his teen age son (think it was his son anyway). As usual Dick's only had one kid working back there and about 5 customers (including me) waiting when he comes in. A few minutes later Neil has a shoe and as the kid is walking out carrying two boxes for other customers blocks him and says he needs a pair to try on. The kid drops the boxes on a bench and proceeds to go looking for Neil. He turns around and notices several of us looking at this and gives a shit eating look like "what you gonna do?" at everybody. It's no surprise everything he's done from arena football to that cajun place he owned in JoCo has been a failure. **** him. |
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He also was resposnsible for drafting most of the core group that Marty took to the playoffs in the early-mid nineties. Where Steadman failed was in finding the right coach, though I still believe that he did find the coach to have success with in Marv Levy, who got a raw deal, getting fired after the a strike shortened season in '82.
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Super Bow I and IV were Hark Stram's baby. He made the personnel decisions. Steadman didn't get involved in the draft room until after Stram was fired. And guess who fired Stram? Guess who fired Levy? King Carl was the GM, not Steadman, when Marty was drafting. It was King Carl who hired Marty. Steadman had been moved to a BS position that was pretty much ceremonial by that point. He actually volunteered to get out of the football side when King Carl came in, because he was such a piss poor football talent evaluator. There's only three things Steadman has going for him. 1) He was Lamar Hunt's college room mate. That's how he got a job with the Chiefs. 2) He oversaw the original Arrowhead stadium construction. 3) He worked there for a long time -but big deal. So have a lot of the janitors at Arrowhead. You have to put a lot of the 40 years of Super Bowl Chase Failure on Steadman. He was at the helm for a big chunk of that time. He also ran Worlds of Fun and the Chiefs at the same time for many of those years. I can make a pretty good argument that he ran both businesses exactly the same -for profit, and to generate mild entertainment value. I'm glad his hand is off the wheel now. And the only reason he's in the Chiefs HOF is because he was Lamar's best buddy. Nepotism at its finest. |
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Oh, and I forgot to mention. If you see the documentary on "Full Color Football" -the story of the AFL- check out the letter Steadman sent to Abner Haynes.
Haynes was part of a group of black players that wanted the 1965 AFL All Star Game moved out of New Orleans, because of all the segregated hotels and restaurants there. The game was eventually moved to Houston. It took a lot of balls for the black players to stand up for their rights. Very gutsy, and of course, they were morally right. Right afterwards, Steadman wrote Haynes a letter (an official letter from the Chiefs front office) chastising him for being an activist, told him to shut up and just play football, and promptly traded him to Denver. Haynes was their star player, much like Charles is our star player now. So I could make a convincing argument that Steadman was a 1960's racist too. I don't think he still thinks that way, but I hope he regrets writing that letter. |
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I'm not saying that Steadman was a great GM, but I would argue, strongly, that he was a far better talent evaluator than Carl.
Players drafted by Steadman that made up the core group that Marty turned into playoff pretenders. Dave Lutz Albert Lewis Bill Maas John Alt Kevin Ross Dino Hackett Christian Okoye Neil Smith Kevin Porter This was just a quick cursery glance. probably a couple that I missed. He clearly needed to be replaced, but he wasn't quite the boob you make him out to be.
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Yeah.... King Carl had DT. Let's look at Steadman's first round draft pick record. Let's assume he's at the helm from the time Stram was fired (1974) to the time King Carl came in (1989): Here's the first pick the Chiefs made each of those years, and whether they became quality NFL players worthy of a first round pick or not: 1974- Woody Green Miss 1975-Elmore Stephens Miss 1976- Rod Walters Miss 1977-Gary Green Hit 1978-Art Still Hit 1979-Mike Bell Hit 1980-Brad Budde Miss 1981-Willie Scott Miss 1982-Anthony Hancock Miss 1983-Todd Blackledge Miss 1984-Bill Maas Hit 1985-Ethan Horton Miss 1986-Brian Jozwiak Miss 1987-Paul Palmer Miss 1988- Neil Smith Hit 15 1st Round Picks: 5 Hit 10 miss So 2/3rds of the time, his first round picks were a bust. And how many years was Steadman in charge with no Super Bowls? That's the elephant in the room, dude. King Carl failed at that too. So bring on our next eligible bachelor, Scott Pioli, come on down! Last edited by gblowfish; 02-13-2011 at 10:12 AM.. |
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Tommy Nobis was as good, if not better than Ray Nitschi. John Hadl was better than Joe Namath and Len Dawson. Not to mention Otis Taylor vs. Lynn Swan. The teams you play for have as much to do with getting into the HoF as individual greatness.
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Neil Smith says, now i remember why i left Kansas City.
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