Football ESPN: Ranking the AFCW Defensive Backs - Page 4

Ugly Duck · 07-05-2011, 12:04 PM

Looks like Bill Williamson likes Eric Berry & thinks the Oakland backs will suck without Nnamdi. Same for Denver if they lose the ancient old aged Champ. Seems to like Sandy Eggo:

1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: This may change. Many league observers expect Asomugha to leave the Raiders when free agency starts. That would be a major hit to this list.

2. Champ Bailey, Denver: Bailey is aging, but he is still an elite-level player.

3. Eric Berry, Kansas City: Berry could be atop this list next year. The second-year safety appears to be a special player.

4. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: The veteran cornerback is underrated. He is a stalwart.

5. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: He is a favorite of NFL scouts. He is becoming one of the better young cornerbacks in the league.

6. Eric Weddle, San Diego: He is a top safety and a playmaker.

7. Stanford Routt, Oakland: This is a big year for Routt, who just signed a big contract with the Raiders. He’ll be challenged if Asomugha leaves.

8. Antoine Cason, San Diego: Cason is an up-and-coming player. He was very solid is his first season as a starter last year.

9. Brandon Carr, Kansas City: Carr is a strong right cornerback. He and Flowers make a nice tandem.

10. Bob Sanders, San Diego: The new Charger has to show he can stay healthy. If so, he’ll be a great pickup.

11. Tyvon Branch, Oakland: Branch is a good, strong player, but he still has to improve.

12. Michael Huff, Oakland: Huff is decent, not great. He could leave in free agency.

13. Andre Goodman, Denver: He is nearing the end of his career, but he’ll probably start in 2011.

14. Brian Dawkins, Denver: This could be his final season.

15. Steve Gregory, San Diego: He is a solid role player.

16. Kendrick Lewis, Kansas City: Lewis and Berry could be a pair for years.

17. Chris Johnson, Oakland: He could start if Asomugha leaves and the youngsters aren’t ready.

18. Javier Arenas, Kansas City: He could be a good nickel for the long term.

19. Mike Mitchell, Oakland: It’s time for this 2009 second-round pick to make a move.

20. Rahim Moore, Denver: I have a feeling this second-round pick will be ranked much higher next year.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...efensive-backs

**RealSNR** · 07-05-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

The Ayers pick was just as good as the Alfonso Smith pick.

Even better! He's still with the team!

**chefsos** · 07-05-2011, 05:16 PM

I think if the Chiefs' current DBs stay together for a few years they can become a dominant unit. They don't all need to be Pro Bowl types, although some of them will be. I think it's a deal where the whole will be greater than the sum of the parts.

**The Bad Guy** · 07-05-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He absolutely shut down Bowe when he was covering him last year. Champ is still a top 3 corner.

Perrish Cox, Sydquan Thompson, and Andre Goodman should be in the top in this list,

****ing who?

Sofa King · 07-05-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Von Miller will be our SAM LB. Robert Ayers (who is a beast against the run, mind you) will be the other starting DE on 1st and 2nd down.

who are you trying to convince? us or you?

CoMoChief · 07-05-2011, 06:16 PM

Andre Goodman

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-05-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He absolutely shut down Bowe when he was covering him last year. Champ is still a top 3 corner.

Perrish Cox, Sydquan Thompson, and Andre Goodman should be in the top in this list,

Chump will not have the juice this year.

CoMoChief · 07-05-2011, 06:17 PM

wtf - Bob Sanders #10?

Guy misses so many games I didn't even know he was with the Chargers now.

CoMoChief · 07-05-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Chump will not have the juice this year.

Eh, I'd still put Champ Bailey in the top 3 in the division, but certainly he's not top 3 (or 5 for that matter) in the entire NFL. He's getting up there in age, but he's still athletic enough that his experience will overcome his age. He's still IMO a top 10 CB in the NFL.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-05-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Eh, I'd still put Champ Bailey in the top 3 in the division, but certainly he's not top 3 (or 5 for that matter) in the entire NFL. He's getting up there in age, but he's still athletic enough that his experience will overcome his age. He's still IMO a top 10 CB in the NFL.

Shhh! I'm ****ing with KnowMo here...

KCrockaholic · 07-05-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

When we blew you guys out in the first game we were playing a very soft zone from the first quarter on. I don't even think Bowe had a catch on Champ when Champ was playing man to man.

What was that part @ 1:23?

Oh must've been a push off.

Quesadilla Joe · 07-05-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

What was that part @ 1:23?

Oh must've been a push off.

It looks like that was a road game for Denver and that catch didn't happen last year because Bowe didn't have a single catch in the second game against Denver last year.

KCrockaholic · 07-05-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

It looks like that was a road game for Denver and that catch didn't happen last year because Bowe didn't have a single catch in the second game against Denver last year.

IDK, you could be right...If that's the case I blame it on GoChiefs for putting old stuff in a 2010 highlight vid.

Although at 3:20 it shows Champ whiffing on Bowe and allowing a TD. And yes, I know Denver was in zone. But that one is on Champ.

And what was that BS effort at 4:08? Once the ball is in the air he should have closed the gap and made a play on Bowe rather than just letting him catch an easy TD, regardless of the score.

**Rain Man** · 07-05-2011, 11:07 PM

remember the minor scandal last year when the raiders' coaches planned to cut mike mitchell, but al made them cut a better player to keep him? since he was the 54th best player on the team at best, they're correct that this is the year he needs to make his move.
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Bump · 07-06-2011, 12:17 AM

Chiefs have the best secondary in the entire mother****ing NFL. and we're young too. There isn't another 4 starters I would take over ours as a whole.

**ChiefGator** · 07-06-2011, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Eh, I'd still put Champ Bailey in the top 3 in the division, but certainly he's not top 3 (or 5 for that matter) in the entire NFL. He's getting up there in age, but he's still athletic enough that his experience will overcome his age. He's still IMO a top 10 CB in the NFL.

He was top 3 in the NFL for one game last year.. the second game against Bowe. That was by far his best game of the year for just tight man-to-man coverage.

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Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	ESPN: Ranking the AFCW Defensive Backs Looks like Bill Williamson likes Eric Berry & thinks the Oakland backs will suck without Nnamdi. Same for Denver if they lose the ancient old aged Champ. Seems to like Sandy Eggo: 1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: This may change. Many league observers expect Asomugha to leave the Raiders when free agency starts. That would be a major hit to this list. 2. Champ Bailey, Denver: Bailey is aging, but he is still an elite-level player. 3. Eric Berry, Kansas City: Berry could be atop this list next year. The second-year safety appears to be a special player. 4. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: The veteran cornerback is underrated. He is a stalwart. 5. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: He is a favorite of NFL scouts. He is becoming one of the better young cornerbacks in the league. 6. Eric Weddle, San Diego: He is a top safety and a playmaker. 7. Stanford Routt, Oakland: This is a big year for Routt, who just signed a big contract with the Raiders. He’ll be challenged if Asomugha leaves. 8. Antoine Cason, San Diego: Cason is an up-and-coming player. He was very solid is his first season as a starter last year. 9. Brandon Carr, Kansas City: Carr is a strong right cornerback. He and Flowers make a nice tandem. 10. Bob Sanders, San Diego: The new Charger has to show he can stay healthy. If so, he’ll be a great pickup. 11. Tyvon Branch, Oakland: Branch is a good, strong player, but he still has to improve. 12. Michael Huff, Oakland: Huff is decent, not great. He could leave in free agency. 13. Andre Goodman, Denver: He is nearing the end of his career, but he’ll probably start in 2011. 14. Brian Dawkins, Denver: This could be his final season. 15. Steve Gregory, San Diego: He is a solid role player. 16. Kendrick Lewis, Kansas City: Lewis and Berry could be a pair for years. 17. Chris Johnson, Oakland: He could start if Asomugha leaves and the youngsters aren’t ready. 18. Javier Arenas, Kansas City: He could be a good nickel for the long term. 19. Mike Mitchell, Oakland: It’s time for this 2009 second-round pick to make a move. 20. Rahim Moore, Denver: I have a feeling this second-round pick will be ranked much higher next year. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...efensive-backs
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