Chiefs This one ain't on Cassel - Page 4

**petegz28** · 11-06-2011, 03:04 PM

No protection, no running game, no defese to speak of....

Ironically he was about the only one who came to play

milkman · 11-06-2011, 03:21 PM

You can draft and sign 21 players that elevate the play of the QB, or you can draft a franchsie QB that can elevate the play of the team around him.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-06-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

it's always on the QB in the nfl

always

And ours was outplayed by a wide margin by Matt Moore.

MATT MOORE.

I'm going to enjoy reading the excuses for the next 48 hours or so, though.

Chiefs Pantalones · 11-06-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

With our pass protection today I'm not sure any QB would have stood much of a chance

Do watch the Packers play ever? Their oline is worse than ours but Rodgers is a bad ass and makes them look good because he's a great QB. It's all about the QB.

Hootie · 11-06-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And ours was outplayed by a wide margin by Matt Moore.

MATT MOORE.

I'm going to enjoy reading the excuses for the next 48 hours or so, though.

no excuses for Cassel

but what the **** was he supposed to do today?

our team is built to have our defense win games

our defense and scheme was terrible

and to boot...our offensive playcalling was flat out atrocious

and our line was unbelievably bad

so blaming everything on Cassel is just dumb

chiefzilla1501 · 11-06-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

With our pass protection today I'm not sure any QB would have stood much of a chance

It's hard to say. Our o-line was bad, but Miami was blitzing all day.

Try throwing a blitz on Brady. He's going to carve you up all day long.

I wonder how much of our problem would be fixed by a QB who was consistent at spotting the hot route. One of the reasons Brady doesn't get touched nearly as much is because defenses are afraid to throw pressure at him.

**Baby Lee** · 11-06-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

With our pass protection today I'm not sure any QB would have stood much of a chance

Someone buy this man the 2010 Green Bay Season DVDs.

FAX · 11-06-2011, 03:23 PM

We were completely dominated in every aspect of the game.

By a winless team.

I'm looking forward to next week, though. We're going to send Tebow to his maker.

FAX

Stanley Nickels · 11-06-2011, 03:23 PM

Here's what I'll say: If you say that a team all-out blitzing Cassel removes him from responsibility for his poor performance, fine. But other teams will all-out blitz every game, and Cassel will never be held responsible. If blitzing was so effective that a QB absolutely shut down the way Cassel did today, it'd be done every play, every single day. Good QBs LOVE blitzing, as it's an invitation for huge yardage. Cassel continually showed little to no mental fortitude. He didn't call many audibles (that I could tell), he didn't put his head up after avoiding a sack, he didn't take appropriate opportunities to throw it away, and most importantly didn't show more composure when he knew they'd start blitzing consistently.

**the Talking Can** · 11-06-2011, 03:23 PM

and i'm not asking cassel to win this game...he sucks, he couldn't do that

i'm just asking him to do something to give the team some life, make it competitive....earn your damn paycheck

but we can't even ask that of the piece of shit cassel...our RT sucks so Cassel can suck too....

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-06-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Someone buy this man the 2010 Green Bay Season DVDs.

Or the 2008, 2009 or 2010 Pittsburgh Steelers Season DVD's.

Marcellus · 11-06-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And ours was outplayed by a wide margin by Matt Moore.

MATT MOORE.

I'm going to enjoy reading the excuses for the next 48 hours or so, though.

Had Cassel played our defense today he would have ripped it up. No pressure, wide open receivers all day.

KC defense made Moore look awesome, not like he was making miraculous plays.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-06-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Lover's Pizza Face

our team is built to have our defense win games
.....

so blaming everything on Cassel is just dumb

These two statements are contradictory.

Ever stop to think that with real QB play, the defenses wouldn't have to exhaust themselves to protect our QB from his consistent 3 and outs?

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-06-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This loss is not on Cassel.

It's on Richardson and Crennel.

The problem with Cassel is that he doesn't elevate the play around him.

When the team sucks, he sucks right along with them.

Completely agree.

But, guess what? That is about 80% of the QB's in the league.

He is just an average QB. That is what he is. To expect more is dumb on our part.

I would love to get a top 5 QB. That isn't happening anytime soon. Maybe next offseason, but I doubt it.

The reality is that with decent offensive line play, decent defense and WR's that didn't drop the ball or fail to adjust to the ball...

The Chiefs win.

Marcellus · 11-06-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

We were completely dominated in every aspect of the game.

By a winless team.

I'm looking forward to next week, though. We're going to send Tebow to his maker.

FAX

I like the cut of your jib Mr.FAX.

(no homo)

FAX · 11-06-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

Here's what I'll say: If you say that a team all-out blitzing Cassel removes him from responsibility for his poor performance, fine. But other teams will all-out blitz every game, and Cassel will never be held responsible. If blitzing was so effective that a QB absolutely shut down the way Cassel did today, it'd be done every play, every single day. Good QBs LOVE blitzing, as it's an invitation for huge yardage. Cassel continually showed little to no mental fortitude. He didn't call many audibles (that I could tell), he didn't put his head up after avoiding a sack, he didn't take appropriate opportunities to throw it away, and most importantly didn't show more composure when he knew they'd start blitzing consistently.

That's a key point, in my view, Mr. Stanley Nickles.

We can expect a ton of blitzing from now on.

And some really, really high throws.

I almost feel sorry for Cassel.

FAX

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11-06-2011, 03:23 PM	#53
Stanley Nickels [null] Join Date: Sep 2008 Casino cash: $1632893	Here's what I'll say: If you say that a team all-out blitzing Cassel removes him from responsibility for his poor performance, fine. But other teams will all-out blitz every game, and Cassel will never be held responsible. If blitzing was so effective that a QB absolutely shut down the way Cassel did today, it'd be done every play, every single day. Good QBs LOVE blitzing, as it's an invitation for huge yardage. Cassel continually showed little to no mental fortitude. He didn't call many audibles (that I could tell), he didn't put his head up after avoiding a sack, he didn't take appropriate opportunities to throw it away, and most importantly didn't show more composure when he knew they'd start blitzing consistently. __________________ Bacon-wrapped shrimp: My first-favorite food wrapped around my third-favorite food. I'd go to a banquet in honor of those Somali pirates if they served bacon-wrapped shrimp.
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11-06-2011, 03:23 PM	#54
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9112208	and i'm not asking cassel to win this game...he sucks, he couldn't do that i'm just asking him to do something to give the team some life, make it competitive....earn your damn paycheck but we can't even ask that of the piece of shit cassel...our RT sucks so Cassel can suck too.... __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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