Chiefs Rank the top 15 (or 20, whatever, I'm not married to a number) LBs in Chiefs history. - Page 4

**Rain Man** · 12-09-2011, 01:58 PM

I'm asking this because I'm curious where our current guys stand. If you can be a starter for a few years you move to the top of any team's list pretty quick.

Here's mine:

1. Willie Lanier
2. Bobby Bell
3. Derrick Thomas
4. Sherrill Headrick
5. E.J. Holub
6. Jim Lynch
7. Derrick Johnson
8. Tamba Hali
9. Anthony Davis
10. Gary Spani
11. Tracy Simien
12. Donnie Edwards
13. Dino Hackett
14. Walt Corey
15. Thomas Howard

Am I too high on DJ and Tamba? Too low? Right now, I see them as being about the same impact as Anthony Davis and Jim Lynch, which would put them in our top ten in history. I think they need a few pro bowls to move further up, though.

Bronco Rob · 12-10-2011, 07:11 AM

Derrick Thomas didn't play the run or the pass.

He was surrounded by talented players and focal point of the defenses in Kansas City.

He has 601 career tackles.

He has 1 I repeat 1 career interception.

He only led the NFL in sacks once. (1990)

In the biggest game of his career (a drubbing by the Bills) he was on the bench.

He never took his team to the next level. (3 career playoff victories)

1.) Bruce Smith 200.0

2.) Reggie White+ 198.0

3.) Kevin Greene 160.0

4.) Chris Doleman 150.5

5.) Michael Strahan 141.5

6.) John Randle 137.5

6.) Richard Dent 137.5

8.) Leslie O'Neal 132.5

8.) Lawrence Taylor+ 132.5

10.) Rickey Jackson 128.0

11.) Derrick Thomas 126.5

12.) Simeon Rice 122.0

13.) Clyde Simmons 121.5

14.) Jason Taylor (34) 120.5

15.) Sean Jones 113.0

16.) Greg Townsend 109.5 1983-1997

17.) Pat Swilling 107.5

18.) Trace Armstrong 106.0

19.) Neil Smith 104.5

19.)Kevin Carter (35) 104.5

I guess since all DT did was sack the QB all these players belong in the HOF.

redsurfer11 · 12-10-2011, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Hey man, I showed him all sorts of love earlier.

I know you old-timers love Bell and Lanier but DT was the best LB this club has ever seen. He really should be 1st on the list.
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Guessing that you never saw them play. DT will never move above Bell and Lanier.

Bronco Rob · 12-10-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by redsurfer11

Guessing that you never saw them play. DT will never move above Bell and Lanier.

Bell & Lanier played the run.

Remember Derrick Thomas's "best game" do yourself a favor take a look at that last play and see why the Chiefs lost.

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BoneKrusher · 12-10-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

hmmm........

1) len dawson
2) joe montana
3) trent green
4) steve deberg
5) rich gannon
6) bill kenney
7) elvis grbac
8) steve bono
9) dave krieg
10) matt cassel
11) mike livingston
12) cotton davidson
13) steve fuller
14) tyler thigpen
15) damon huard

ain't pretty.

looking at this list and trying to figure out why some people cant believe the Chiefs haven't won a playoff game since 95.

milkman · 12-10-2011, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

looking at this list and trying to figure out why some people cant believe the Chiefs haven't won a playoff game since 95.

Some people are wondering about that?

Who?

BoneKrusher · 12-10-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Some people are wondering about that?

Who?

steeler fans

i live is steeler country where 4 outta 5 people pull for the Steelers.

KCTitus · 12-10-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

1.) Percy Snow - Ruined career riding a moped. Picked at #13. King Carl should have drafted Emmitt Smith instead still available at #17.

Marty didnt like RB's that were quick and could slip through the line...he liked Fullbacks and bruisers that ran into the line and fell down.

12-10-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Lanier is my all time favorite Chief, but I'd still have to place Bell at #1, with Lanier at #2.

I'd move Edwards down, one of the most overrated Chiefs players ever.

That's what I was gonna say.

**cdcox** · 12-10-2011, 12:24 PM

I'm going to rank the top 8 (after that it doesn't matter as much IMO) thusly:

1. Bobby Bell
2. Willie Lanier
3. Derrick Thomas
4. Sherrill Headrick
5. EJ Holub
6. Tamba Hali
7. Derrick Johnson
8. Jim Lynch

Bell in front of Lanier and both in front of DT.
I never saw EJ or Headrick play LB, but I am going to give credence to the All Pro and Pro Bowl selections.
I moved Tamba and DJ in front of Lynch. Lynch played with three HOFers on the front 7, not to mention guys like Aaron Brown and Curly Culp. I think it is easier to make plays when you are playing with stellar talent around you.
Right now I have Tamba ahead of DJ, even thought DJ is a more complete LBer. DJ is having his first great season at age 29. If he can add 2 or 3 more great seasons, I'll move him up. Tamba has more years of being an impact player.

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Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-762449 VARSITY	Rank the top 15 (or 20, whatever, I'm not married to a number) LBs in Chiefs history. I'm asking this because I'm curious where our current guys stand. If you can be a starter for a few years you move to the top of any team's list pretty quick. Here's mine: 1. Willie Lanier 2. Bobby Bell 3. Derrick Thomas 4. Sherrill Headrick 5. E.J. Holub 6. Jim Lynch 7. Derrick Johnson 8. Tamba Hali 9. Anthony Davis 10. Gary Spani 11. Tracy Simien 12. Donnie Edwards 13. Dino Hackett 14. Walt Corey 15. Thomas Howard Am I too high on DJ and Tamba? Too low? Right now, I see them as being about the same impact as Anthony Davis and Jim Lynch, which would put them in our top ten in history. I think they need a few pro bowls to move further up, though.
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12-10-2011, 07:11 AM	#46
Bronco Rob Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	Derrick Thomas didn't play the run or the pass. He was surrounded by talented players and focal point of the defenses in Kansas City. He has 601 career tackles. He has 1 I repeat 1 career interception. He only led the NFL in sacks once. (1990) In the biggest game of his career (a drubbing by the Bills) he was on the bench. He never took his team to the next level. (3 career playoff victories) 1.) Bruce Smith 200.0 2.) Reggie White+ 198.0 3.) Kevin Greene 160.0 4.) Chris Doleman 150.5 5.) Michael Strahan 141.5 6.) John Randle 137.5 6.) Richard Dent 137.5 8.) Leslie O'Neal 132.5 8.) Lawrence Taylor+ 132.5 10.) Rickey Jackson 128.0 11.) Derrick Thomas 126.5 12.) Simeon Rice 122.0 13.) Clyde Simmons 121.5 14.) Jason Taylor (34) 120.5 15.) Sean Jones 113.0 16.) Greg Townsend 109.5 1983-1997 17.) Pat Swilling 107.5 18.) Trace Armstrong 106.0 19.) Neil Smith 104.5 19.)Kevin Carter (35) 104.5 I guess since all DT did was sack the QB all these players belong in the HOF.
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12-10-2011, 12:24 PM	#54
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-648231	I'm going to rank the top 8 (after that it doesn't matter as much IMO) thusly: 1. Bobby Bell 2. Willie Lanier 3. Derrick Thomas 4. Sherrill Headrick 5. EJ Holub 6. Tamba Hali 7. Derrick Johnson 8. Jim Lynch Bell in front of Lanier and both in front of DT. I never saw EJ or Headrick play LB, but I am going to give credence to the All Pro and Pro Bowl selections. I moved Tamba and DJ in front of Lynch. Lynch played with three HOFers on the front 7, not to mention guys like Aaron Brown and Curly Culp. I think it is easier to make plays when you are playing with stellar talent around you. Right now I have Tamba ahead of DJ, even thought DJ is a more complete LBer. DJ is having his first great season at age 29. If he can add 2 or 3 more great seasons, I'll move him up. Tamba has more years of being an impact player.
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