Football Shockey rips Texans for lack of national anthem etiquette - Page 4

Deberg_1990 · 12-19-2011, 10:45 AM

http://www.chron.com/sports/article/...te-2410816.php

HOUSTON (AP) — Carolina Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey criticized members of the Houston Texans for not putting their hands over their hearts during the national anthem.

Shockey says he saw "about 10 players" who didn't do the traditional gesture when the anthem is played, and he told some of them how he felt during Carolina's 28-13 victory.

"I was pretty upset in the way they weren't showing respect to America during the national anthem," Shockey said. "This is America and you should at least give respect to America."

Shockey's statements didn't make their way back to the Texans' locker room before it closed, and the team had no comment. Shockey's rant came in response to a reporter's question about the Texans' defense.

"This is America and this is just a game and they should not only be very proud of this country, but very gifted to be living here," Shockey said. "Maybe they just forgot to do it or something, but I don't see how you could forget to do that."

Shockey sports a red, white and blue tattoo on his right biceps portraying a bald eagle draped in an American flag. He caught a 9-yard touchdown pass from Cam Newton in Sunday's game, then pointed at linebacker DeMeco Ryans and appeared to yell at him and cornerback Jason Allen.

**Dave Lane** · 12-19-2011, 02:09 PM

I think I'll add this thread to the growing number of things I don't give a shit about.

frankotank · 12-19-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm not sure that people who opt not to stand during the national anthem are a 1:1 with the Phelps bunch. That's a stretch.

agreed. and certainly not what I said, although I did ramble off on a tangent. (those sorry BITCHES!)

Valiant · 12-19-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

This is 'Merica.

Thought it said "this is 'Mecca" when scrolling quickly.

My brain went. "Explains a lot"..

**SuperChief** · 12-19-2011, 04:44 PM

I've never been one to put my hand over my heart during the National Anthem. As I see it, there's no real etiquette covering this, save for the standing and removing of the hat. I put my hand over my heart for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I don't really view it as being unpatriotic. I, myself, am very proud to be an American, as my grandfather served in the Army during WW2 and the Navy during Korea. I joined the Sons of the American Legion out of gratitude and respect of his and all others' service.

Ceej · 12-19-2011, 04:49 PM

Que the Shockey pre-celebratory gif.

Titty Meat · 12-19-2011, 04:57 PM

**** the troops

**Bugeater** · 12-19-2011, 05:35 PM

American rips Shockey for being a ****ing douchebag.

-King- · 12-19-2011, 06:39 PM

Texans linebacker DeMeco Ryans heard about Shockey’s complaint and raised an interesting question: If expressing patriotism during the national anthem is of paramount importance to Shockey, why was he focusing his attention on the Texans?

“If he’s so patriotic, why was he looking at our bench instead of the flag?” Ryans asked. “Where did he come up with the number 10? Was he counting?Why was he paying attention to us during the national anthem?”
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Micjones · 12-19-2011, 06:50 PM

Standing during the national anthem makes you as patriotic as going to church makes you Christian.

And where on earth is this handbook that requires all American citizens to be patriotic?

crazycoffey · 12-19-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

**** the troops

You have the freedom of speech to say that.
I have the freedom of speech to say;
**** you back.
neg.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-19-2011, 06:52 PM

One of the most overrated players in NFL history, and that overrating doesn't even come close to rivaling his stupidity.

Caseyguyrr · 12-19-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

One of the most overrated players in NFL history, and that overrating doesn't even come close to rivaling his stupidity.

the dude has 2 superbowl rings

**RealSNR** · 12-19-2011, 06:58 PM

Hey, Saul and bi lay started the party without me! What are both of your addresses? I'll kick your asses!

crazycoffey · 12-19-2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones

Standing during the national anthem makes you as patriotic as going to church makes you Christian.

And where on earth is this handbook that requires all American citizens to be patriotic?

I think the argument is more about it appearing disrespectful to some people. Talking in class and disrupting the teacher is also disrespectful, writing "clean me" on someone's dirty rear window is also disrespectful.

None of these are illegal or will get you a ticket, and there's no handbook that helps you out in knowing these type of things, maybe it was your parent's job to teach you this respect and common courtesy. Maybe as an adult, it's supposed to come to you like understanding poetry, in time.

Earthling · 12-19-2011, 07:00 PM

I personally remove my hat and keep my hat over my heart area. But its a personal decision and as a Vet I take it with a grain of salt if anyone else does or doesn't. That being said I would take big issue with anyone, especially a stranger, taking it upon themselves to remove a hat off of one of my family members heads.

12-19-2011, 10:45 AM
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SuperChief Damn it feels good. Join Date: Mar 2011 Casino cash: $7537978	I've never been one to put my hand over my heart during the National Anthem. As I see it, there's no real etiquette covering this, save for the standing and removing of the hat. I put my hand over my heart for the Pledge of Allegiance. I don't really view it as being unpatriotic. I, myself, am very proud to be an American, as my grandfather served in the Army during WW2 and the Navy during Korea. I joined the Sons of the American Legion out of gratitude and respect of his and all others' service.
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Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	Standing during the national anthem makes you as patriotic as going to church makes you Christian. And where on earth is this handbook that requires all American citizens to be patriotic? __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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