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Old 03-11-2012, 10:53 AM  
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Something to make you feel better about the Manning situation.

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First of all, if you want to track everything that has been and is going on with Peyton Manning, then you need look no farther than Arrowhead Addict’s Peyton Manning Tracker. We’ve been collecting all the news and rumors throughout the process so be sure to check that out frequently. We often update it without updating anything on the front page.

As for what is happening with Manning now, there seems to be a great deal of panic setting in among Chiefs fans. The news that Manning has plans to go to Arizona and Miami combined with the lack of news that Manning plans to visit Kansas City, has everyone freaked out. There is a growing feeling, I say feeling because nobody has reported anything concrete, that Manning may not be interested in the Chiefs. These feelings, while I can understand why fans and media members alike are having them, are likely incorrect.

Here is why you should step away from the ledge.

1. The Chiefs are incredibly secretive. We generally find out only what they want us to know. Most of the news of their pursuit of Manning is within their control. Sure, Manning’s camp cam leak things but they don’t appear to be doing a whole lot of that. Little bits have gotten out, like where Manning may go on a visit next but even those bits have been off in many cases. Even the most detailed reports on what is going on with Manning have been incredible vague. That tells me the Manning camp is trying to keep this as low-key as possible. Considering the hugeness of this situation, I think they are doing a pretty good job. No news is not bad news in this case. It’s not even close.

2. Clark Hunts words from Friday night should tell you all you need to know. He said that the Chiefs would talk to Peyton Manning. He didn’t say they would like to, he didn’t say they hoped to, he said they would.

When Hunt said this is also important. Hunt made his comments while Manning was in Denver and also, after the news had been reported by Adam Schefter of ESPN, that the Chiefs had indeed reached out to Manning’s camp.

Because of the lack of news of a planned Chiefs/Manning visit, some are jumping to the conclusion that Manning is just not as interested in the Chiefs as the Chiefs are in him. If this was the case, however, Manning’s disinterest likely would have been conveyed to the Chiefs when they originally called about the future Hall of Fame QB. We have good reason to believe this is what happened when other teams Manning wasn’t interested in called because of the recent actions of the Washington Redskins and New York Jets.

Both teams, especially Washington, declared their intention to pursue Manning.

Yet, suddenly on Friday night, the Redskins traded for the No. 2 pick in the Draft and the Jets signed QB Mark Sanchez to an extension. That means that at some point between Wednesday afternoon when Manning was officially released and Friday, the Redskins and Jets were given a pretty strong indication that they had no shot at landing Manning. More than likely, that news came sometime Thursday evening or early Friday morning. The teams then both executed their “plan B.”

Why is this important? Because at the same time that Washington and New York were scrambling to enact their contingency plans, Clark Hunt was giving an interview where he said that the Chiefs would talk to Manning.

We can thus deduce that New York and Washington were told they were out of the race while the Chiefs believed so strongly that they still were in the race that they were talking about it publicly.

#3. Manning not being interested in Kansas City makes little sense for the simple fact that he does seem so interested in Denver. Obviously there is no way to know a man’s mind. There could be circumstance in Manning’s mind that make Denver very different from KC. Manning could have some sort of grudge against someone in the organization or something like that.

But from an outside point of view, being interested in Denver means being interested in Kansas City. The teams are similar in a lot of ways. The Chiefs and the Broncos play int he weak AFC West, both are cold-weather cities and both have incredible home field advantages. The organizations both have stable ownership and both franchises have storied histories. There is even an argument to be made that the Chiefs have many more superior and experience weapons on offense than the Broncos.

#4. Where is Tom Condon?
Manning’s agent was not with him when he went to Denver. That means there was little to no chance of a deal being struck while Manning was there. It may be that Condon is simply holding back and will fly to wherever Manning is when things with a team get serious but the fact that his agent stayed home could be an indication that Manning was just doing his due diligence with his visit to Denver. It could be an indicator that Manning and Condon already have a pretty good idea of which teams Manning is really interested in and so they are using the extra time to meet with some of the other guys just to be sure.

Manning is expected to make a decision by Tuesday. If I had to guess, I would say that Manning will pay a visit to some team on Monday or early Tuesday morning, whether that be the Miami Dolphins, Kansas City Chiefs or a return trip to Denver or Arizona. Wherever he goes then, in my view, is where he’ll stay.

Could I be wrong about all this?

Sure.

But I doubt I am any more or less accurate in my feelings than most national media members at this point. The big seller on this for me is Clark Hunt still talking about Manning while the Redskins and Jets were moving on. It tells me that Manning’s camp gave some indication of their interests and the indication to the Chiefs must have been, at the very least, that there would be a conversation.

If the Chiefs had any indication that they were totally out of the running for Manning, I believe they would do something to squash the frenzy immediately.
We may never find out exactly what happened and the Chiefs may not get Manning but I believe they are still in this thing and will be until the end.
Some interesting thoughts from Arrowheadaddict.
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:45 PM   #46
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:48 PM   #47
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The Chiefs don't have to EXECUTE anything.

They already have Plan B on the roster...

Matt "Plan B" Cassel.
and that's the scary part
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:56 PM   #48
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If i'm included in your evaluation, i'd like to mention, if you're right and he even VISITS KC then I'll totally eat crow and praise your online presence. But inaccurate news or not, we're entirely out of this mixed album. We aren't even mentioned, now. We at least know now, that he's not going to visit KC. It's just that simple. The light is off. And damned if I ever wished I was wrong, it'd be right now. I don't know how these contracts work while NFL Football is the topic. But from a business and contract standpoint, we're out of it. Light switch off. Hopefully we're all projecting and off base, but I don't believe so, in my heart.
I honestly wonder if Clark Hunt just spewed shit out to feed the fanbase crap that they want to hear? I mean the part that has me concerned is that he is saying one thing, but yet I fail to see any diligence. I don't see any actions to support his words such as no scheduled visits, no contacts with his agent, no discussion, nothing. I mean yeah we heard stuff from 610, but they are not really reliable.

If Clark just deceived us, the same way a politician would then man o man Ill be livid and just bitter towards this franchise for a while. I might just really hate this team and with good reason. I am already frustrated as it is with them but this will add to my frustration tremendously.
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:57 PM   #49
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It just rolled on the ticker on nfln that KC is still in talks with Manning camp and that a visit is possible. Per Jason Lacanfora

If we already met with him, why are we still trying to get a visit?
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:57 PM   #50
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It just rolled on the ticker on nfln that KC is still in talks with Manning camp and that a visit is possible. Per Jason Lacanfora

If we already met with him, why are we still trying to get a visit?
Good news.

Too bad the media is useless right now.
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:58 PM   #51
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I honestly wonder if Clark Hunt just spewed shit out to feed the fanbase crap that they want to hear? I mean the part that has me concerned is that he is saying one thing, but yet I fail to see any diligence. I don't see any actions to support his words such as no scheduled visits, no contacts with his agent, no discussion, nothing. I mean yeah we heard stuff from 610, but they are not really reliable.

If Clark just deceived us, the same way a politician would then man o man Ill be livid and just bitter towards this franchise for a while. I might just really hate this team and with good reason. I am already frustrated as it is with them but this will add to my frustration tremendously.
Why would he do this? It's just going to make people more angry. I really really don't think Clark is sitting back thinking "Herp derp I fooled them, they really think I want Manning." Both Crennel and Hunt have done everything short of tampering... Manning knows what's up.
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:01 PM   #52
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Why would he do this? It's just going to make people more angry. I really really don't think Clark is sitting back thinking "Herp derp I fooled them, they really think I want Manning." Both Crennel and Hunt have done everything short of tampering... Manning knows what's up.
Makes no sense whatsoever.

But I also don't know how a seasoned GM can look at Cassel and the merry band of shit that we have at the QB position and think, "Yeah, this will work."

But it's happened for three years and counting.
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:02 PM   #53
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Ill be livid and just bitter towards this franchise for a while.
How is that any different from now?

I think everyone needs to calm down. There are a lot of baseless assumptions being made here. When something happens then we'll know, until then it is all speculation. Lighten up. A lot of people are ready to be judge, jury and executioner to Hunt and Pioli without any actual knowledge of what is going on or what is going to happen.
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:05 PM   #54
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Good Article Mr. KCAlcoholic, I am telling you guys Tuesday/Wednesday there will be an announcement that Manning is a Chief. The Denver visit was to drive his price up with Hunt.
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:06 PM   #55
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It just rolled on the ticker on nfln that KC is still in talks with Manning camp and that a visit is possible. Per Jason Lacanfora

If we already met with him, why are we still trying to get a visit?
If we are still trying to get a visit why are so many people whining that we are out of it?
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The #2 point is a solid one. Maybe its true, maybe not. I really like how he thought the timeline out though. Kudos to him on that. Hunt's comments came after the Jets and Skins recieved word they were out. That logic would make you think we are atleast still a fringe team.
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Good Article Mr. KCAlcoholic, I am telling you guys Tuesday/Wednesday there will be an announcement that Manning is a Chief. The Denver visit was to drive his price up with Hunt.
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:09 PM   #58
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Why would he do this? It's just going to make people more angry. I really really don't think Clark is sitting back thinking "Herp derp I fooled them, they really think I want Manning." Both Crennel and Hunt have done everything short of tampering... Manning knows what's up.
Well, the way I'm thinking about it is, if he came out and said, "Matt Cassel is our starter next year," everyone would be livid. Most of the fanbase would be ticked off if let's say that was the truth and he told it especially seeing that Manning is available and Chiefs fans see that Clark pissed away the opportunity to really improve his football team. He may be in a position to lie? Who knows? We don't know what his intentions are...Maybe he doesnt want Manning? And if or when the time comes that he signs with another team, he could use the "we tried" excuse. It saves his credibility in the end. That could be the case and I'm thinking of it from that perspective.

But all I can really say, is that his actions definately don't look good right now. I'm not seeing anything.
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