Chiefs 29th in Scoring Defense - Page 4

jspchief · 10-14-2012, 08:51 PM

6 first round picks
3 second round picks

I'm surprised people aren't talking more about what an absolute abortion this defense is.

29th in yards per play

7th worst yards per rush
2nd most 20+ yard runs

We all knew the QB situation going in to this season. Defense was supposed to be a strength. It's what Crennel is supposed to be good at.

We can't pressure. We can't cover. We can't stop the run.

This entire defense is sucking at a Cassel level. Not a single player has been consistently good.

mcaj22 · 10-14-2012, 10:13 PM

i will always wonder who Todd Haley wanted in the 09 draft instead of Pioli overruling him and taking his d-line patriots way crap pick

**BossChief** · 10-14-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

i will always wonder who Todd Haley wanted in the 09 draft instead of Pioli overruling him and taking his d-line patriots way crap pick

even though I didnt want any part of him, I will always wonder what Mark Sanchez could have been with a demanding coach like Haley instead of Ryan.

DJ, Hali and others have reverted to the guys they were prior to Haley...I wonder how much that type of effect might have changed Sanchez.

**notorious** · 10-14-2012, 10:17 PM

One, probably none of the these players are going to be on the roster if we become a playoff team again.

mcaj22 · 10-14-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

One, probably none of the these players are going to be on the roster if we become a playoff team again.

this. If these Patriots way idiots go then this team will be gutted before we ever sniff the playoffs and by that time guys like DJ and Hali will be well pass their primes

and I hope guys like Tyson Jackson and friends are long gone from this team

**BossChief** · 10-14-2012, 10:24 PM

Bullshit.

I know it seems like a major overhaul is due, but if we get a DC that specializes in a 1 gap zone blitzing/attacking defensive scheme...a HC that specializes in developing quarterbacks and knows how to develop schemes to fit the talent we have and a GM that can get us a damn QB this team will turn this around faster than some might think.

mcaj22 · 10-14-2012, 10:25 PM

where are we getting this good magical DC. Good defensive minds dont exactly grow on trees anymore in this pass happy league.

The ones that did are all currently head coaches and they are struggling at that most of them. (Ryan, Pagano, Frazier, etc)

Gunter is still an NFL DC for gods sake in this league. Finding the right one is a lot harder than you think. Romeo sucks, but the next guy we bring in isnt going to be some scheme savior that turns these players into talent gods like some people think and expect this "talent" (I use this term loosely when describing Chiefs players here) to be

L.A. Chieffan · 10-14-2012, 10:26 PM

Tyson Jackson has two more career sacks than I do.

L.A. Chieffan · 10-14-2012, 10:31 PM

Ryan Sims got A LOT of shit for being a bust. Tyson Jackson seems to get more of a pass for some reason. This guy shouldn't even be playing in the NFL.

DaWolf · 10-14-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

6 first round picks
3 second round picks

I'm surprised people aren't talking more about what an absolute abortion this defense is.

29th in yards per play

7th worst yards per rush
2nd most 20+ yard runs

We all knew the QB situation going in to this season. Defense was supposed to be a strength. It's what Crennel is supposed to be good at.

We can't pressure. We can't cover. We can't stop the run.

This entire defense is sucking at a Cassel level. Not a single player has been consistently good.

Let's see, we've got talent, we've got bad coaching, and we've got a mess of a front office with a meddlesome executive.

Yep, we've become the Al Davis Raiders of the past decade. What's next, drafting the next JaMarcus Russell?

**BossChief** · 10-14-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Ryan Sims got A LOT of shit for being a bust. Tyson Jackson seems to get more of a pass for some reason. This guy shouldn't even be playing in the NFL.

the saddest part:

Being that Pioli insisted on letting a superior player (Shaun Smith) walk for close to the NFL minimum to save his own ego for burning a top 3 pick on TJ...TJ got a playing time escalator in his contract activated and that forced us to restructure his deal or cut him.

So, Pioli restructured his deal so that Tyson Jackson makes 8 million dollars this year and almost 15 million next year.

The ****ing idiot clowned Dallas for giving Orton a "very lucrative" contract (less than 10 million over 3 years) while making moves like this one...

Can the clown, Clark.

Tyson Jackson and Matt Cassel may be the two worst moves this team has made in my lifetime.

120 million paid to these two clowns (57 to TJ, 63 to MC)...and he plays hardball with guys like Dwayne Bowe...

Hammock Parties · 10-14-2012, 11:11 PM

I said all this during the offseason...but people coughcoughBossChiefcough insisted Pioli was doing the right thing with Bowe.

**BossChief** · 10-14-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I said all this during the offseason...but people coughcoughBossChiefcough insisted Pioli was doing the right thing with Bowe.

I never said that. I posted probably 25 times that I would have given Bowe 7/100 with 40 guaranteed.

All I ever said in Piolis defense was that if Bowe didn't want to sign here that we should trade him and sign a guy like Vincent Brown to replace him with.

I still think we should have.

Id trade him tomorrow because he is obviously gone after this season and is gonna be 29 anyway.

10-14-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58

30th ranked O, 32 ranked pass D and we got ****ing smoked! Anyone still defending this team needs to be euthanized immediatly

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Hali’s Starts, Sack-and-Strip: LB Tamba Hali started his 100th career game as a member of the Chiefs against Tampa Bay (53 at outside linebacker, 47 at defensive end). He also recorded a sack and strip of Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman. He has 4.0 sacks for the season and 57.5 for his career. The forced fumble is his first of the season. He now has 24 forced fumbles to rank third in Chiefs history.

Houston’s INT: LB Justin Houston recorded his first-career interception as he picked off Tampa Bay QB Josh Freeman and returned it 45 yards in today’s game.

Charles’ Big Rushes: RB Jamaal Charles had one rush of more than 10 yards in today’s contest. He now has 100 career rushes of 10 or more yards. He becomes only the third player in club history to record at least 100 10+ yard rushing plays in their career. RB Priest Holmes (190) and RB Larry Johnson (137) are the other two.

Scoring Drive Plays, Time: The Chiefs registered a 15-play, 59-yard drive that lasted 7:33, resulting in a 38-yard field goal from K Ryan Succop. The 15 plays are the most plays on any Chiefs scoring drive this year, and 7:33 is the longest time of possession for a Kansas City scoring drive in 2012.

Maneri’s Career Day: TE Steve Maneri had a career day receiving the ball, posting a career high four catches for a career high 45 yards (11.3 avg.). Going into the game, Maneri had two catches for 11 yards for his career.

Eachus’ Day: RB Nate Eachus recorded five carries for 18 yards (3.6 avg.) and had one reception for 19 yards in today’s contest, recording his first NFL carry and first NFL reception in the same game.

Succop’s Streak: K Ryan Succop converted his 10th consecutive field goal with 7:45 left to play in the first half. The 38-yard field goal makes him 11-of-12 for the season so far. At 11-of-12, Succop ties for third in Chiefs history for the highest field goal percentage in a single season at 91.7%.

Chiefs PR found the silver lining.

**Bowser** · 10-15-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Chiefs PR found the silver lining.

Makes me want to kick a puppy.

**ChiefGator** · 10-15-2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

6 first round picks
3 second round picks

I just can't help but point out that EVERY team gets a first rounder and second rounder EVERY year. If you consider you would split them evenly across offense and defense for ten years, every team SHOULD have five first round picks and five second round picks playing on defense.

However, most teams have enough depth that they aren't forced to (or decide not to) march out underachieving high picks.

Yes, our defense sucks, but it is not like we invested so much more heavily in the defense than other teams out there.

10-14-2012, 08:51 PM
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10-14-2012, 10:13 PM	#46
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10-14-2012, 10:24 PM	#50
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10-14-2012, 10:25 PM	#51
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	where are we getting this good magical DC. Good defensive minds dont exactly grow on trees anymore in this pass happy league. The ones that did are all currently head coaches and they are struggling at that most of them. (Ryan, Pagano, Frazier, etc) Gunter is still an NFL DC for gods sake in this league. Finding the right one is a lot harder than you think. Romeo sucks, but the next guy we bring in isnt going to be some scheme savior that turns these players into talent gods like some people think and expect this "talent" (I use this term loosely when describing Chiefs players here) to be
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10-14-2012, 10:31 PM	#53
L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2688654	Ryan Sims got A LOT of shit for being a bust. Tyson Jackson seems to get more of a pass for some reason. This guy shouldn't even be playing in the NFL.
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10-14-2012, 11:11 PM	#56
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