*** Official Youth, High School, College and International Wrestling Thread ***

[rico]

I can't be the only wrestling fan on this site. In fact, I know I that's not the case. The almighty king of n00bs, Sorter, is a wrestling fan. I figure there could be more.....????

Discuss anything wrestling related:

Youth wrestling: Heck, wrestling in Iowa has a rabid Youth wrestling scene...I lived through it, my younger brother lived through it and my brothers who are 15 and 13 are living through it, well the 13 year old is anyway...he's in high school. The 13 year old is a 7th grader who has been wrestling since he was 5 years old and has accumulated 4 state championships since his second grade year...a total badass. Believe it or not, Iowa has a youth wrestling forum that is hopping...even during the summer. Iowans take this stuff seriously. I'm assuming other states have rabid youth followings, for when I watch my bros at National tourneys, we are constantly running into kids and super clubs from other states that are amazing. Ironically, one of the biggest youth tourneys our club hits annually is the Park Hill Individual and Dual tournament...which to my knowledge is in Kansas City (I've never attended that one). Do any of you have kids who are wrestling? If so, how are they doing?

High School Wrestling: High school and college wrestling in Iowa is big... we are known for it, ask AC Slater. State tournament is a big, televised event at the Wells Fargo dome...you will see probably 10 times more spectators at state wrestling in Iowa then any other high school sporting event in Iowa. With some of the crazy talent I have seen/wrestled against at Fargo Nationals, I am assuming that it's either on the rise or just as big in other states as well... What are your thoughts on some of the high school wrestlers and/or teams out there?

College Wrestling: Hell, you Missourians semi-recently had those Askren brothers. I've never met Max, but have met Ben. He was the celebrity guest at Iowa Grade School State one year...he signed autographs and handed the medals and wall charts to all of the kids on the podium that year, which was cool because my youngest brother won it that year and was able to get his championship singlet signed by him. I was with my brother when he approached him....Askren struck me as a funny, goofy type of dude. I don't know Max, but someone posted his blog on an Iowa wrestling message board and the dude seems like a character. I know there are some Oklahomans' who post on this board. Anyone see Okie State defeat Iowa this past weekend? Iowa's first dual loss of the year. Anyone have any thoughts on college wrestling?

International Wrestling: Any of you have any thoughts on the international wrestling scene? Future Olympians, future Olympic champs, future World champs, Greco, Freestyle, etc.?

Wrestling Memories/General Discussion: Any of you have any memories you'd like to share from your personal experience(s) of wrestling when you were in youth, high school or college? Any opinions on females wrestling with males. Last year, a girl named Megan Black made history in Iowa by placing at state. Do you believe females should be able to wrestle with males at that age? Any thoughts on weight cutting? What are some of the most memorable matches to you? Who are your favorite wrestlers? One match that always sticks out to me is this:



Crazy match.

My favorite wrestler (besides my bros and former teammates) of all time is ironically not an Iowan. I don't really have a favorite team in wrestling...I root for individuals. It's a dude from Ohio that I initially hated because I didn't like the way he conducted himself after a match vs. my brother in the national duals when he and my brother were Seniors in High School, in which he defeated my brother. Kid was cocky. He and my brother both went on to wrestle D1, so I followed him since I knew who he was. I ended up becoming a huge fan of the kid's style...the kid could hit cradles from ANY position. He went on to win 2 National titles for Ohio State...and did so both years as an underdog, for he'd lose quite a few silly matches during the season, presumably due to his risky, but dangerous style that worked well for him at NCAA Nationals. It's a dude named Jeff Jaggers. First vid is what really put his name on the map as a high school wrestler. 2nd vid is his 1st NCAA championship as a Junior, in a match where he was a huge underdog, broke his ankle during the match and gutted it out and won. My favorite wrestlers tend to be the ones who are risk takers or brawlers...not afraid to be aggressive or take chances. I can't stand stallish wrestlers who are successful as hell simply because they don't open up and therefore don't give up points and score their own points by capitalizing on the other wrestler's aggression. Boring.






So what ya got?

Note: I have been posting on wrestling message boards for 12 years and I (and I'm sure everyone else involved with the sport) have heard every wrestling joke (rolling around with men, etc.) imaginable, but if ya want to clown on the sport, shoot... it was inevitable to happen anyways on CP, so have at it!

[teedubya]

[Brianfo]

One more thing: Does anyone else get sick of Tom/Terry Brands antics as coaches? Dancing around like monkeys and riding the refs constantly. Their acts are wearing thin and Hawks vastly underperformed this weekend. Great tournament from Lofthouse/St John everyone else wrestled at or below seed.

[apache]

we are a wrestlin family from southern kansas . goin on 3 generations strong now with my 7 yearold grand son whom has been wrestlin 3 years now. parkcity tournament is in witchita by the way.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Brianfo

Kyle Dake beats David Taylor tonight in finals at 165# to become only the third 4 time national champion and the first to do it at 4 different weights. I was there and saw it in person. Crowd was electric and Dake got a standing O after the match. Just an incredible career. Kudos Kyle Dake!!!! You gave wrestling a shot in the arm when it needed one by going head to head with David Taylor instead of wrestling a much easier weight at 157.

Yes it was indeed awesome.... Wow, what a match too...

[rico]

Anyone seen any good wrestling this year so far? If so, what have been your personal highlights?

My 2nd youngest brother who is a Sophomore, wrestled at the infamously tough high school wrestling tournament called "The Clash" in Rochester, MN. We defeated West Fargo (HUGE win for us), but then lost to the #2 nationally ranked team, Oak Park River Forest. My goodness, that team has some tremendous athletes. They destroyed us. We were in a pool of 8 teams and got 4th, so we will be wrestling tomorrow...IMO, we could have pulled off 2nd or 3rd in our pool, but a few of our guys were sluggish vs. Oak Park and especially vs. Vacaville....we were a better team than Vacaville, who beat us for 3rd and 4th. Our 145 pounder defeated a returning Fargo champ, Larry Early, 8-1...it was AWESOME!!!! My bro (ranked #4 @ 2A 113, IA) wrestled ok...lost vs. the Oak Park kid...I didn't think he wrestled well in that match. Won his other matches.

Anyone else by chance watching this tourney via Flowrestling?

On another note, my youngest brother, who is an 8th grader, won his 4th Grade School State title last week. He was seeded #1 in his bracket and had a bye 1st round, won 15-0 in the quarterfinals vs. the kid who placed 5th, won 15-0 in the semifinals vs. the kid who placed 6th and pinned his kid in the finals in 28 seconds. He was the 3rd kid to ever win 4 titles at the tournament...the 2nd kid to ever do it, did it just a couple minutes before my brother did. At the conclusion of the tournament, he is now one of only 3 kids to ever reel in 4 GSS titles...awesome stuff. On the year so far, he is 39-1 with 33 pins, 4 tech falls and 2 decisions. His 1 loss was at the Park Hill duals (of all places...we live nowhere near that place) in Kansas City a couple weeks ago...was beaten in OT by a kid from Kansas...I forget his name, I wasn't there. It's been fun as hell watching him do his thing this year.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Brianfo

One more thing: Does anyone else get sick of Tom/Terry Brands antics as coaches? Dancing around like monkeys and riding the refs constantly. Their acts are wearing thin and Hawks vastly underperformed this weekend. Great tournament from Lofthouse/St John everyone else wrestled at or below seed.

I haven't really noticed it, but haven't paid much attention. My youngest bro wrestled Terry's son a couple times approximately a year and a half ago and we beat him 18-3 and pinned him the 2nd time they wrestled... Terry wasn't in his son's corner for some reason, but kept his cool real well by the gate throughout the matches. In both matches, Terry's son had Pablo Ubasa and what appeared to be Lincoln Mcllravy in his corner as his coaches... my bro had... (drumroll)....rico in his corner. It was weird coaching my bro in those matches vs. those guys. He did maintain that infamous Brands "stare" while his son was wrestling, though. Man, those guys are intense to the point where it is scary. I just started noticing Terry in his son's corner within the last year or so. He has progressively been displaying more and more intensity in his son's corner, but it hasn't been obnoxious or anything from what I've noticed.

I think Tom Brands has a son coming up, Tom Brands Jr. It'll be interesting to see how that kid does. Terry's son is pretty decent, placed 5th at state in 2012 as a 6th grader and 3rd at state in 2013 as a 7th grader. He's gonna be a bad ass when he hits high school....strong as an ox. Barrel-chested.

[big nasty kcnut]

I want to say I like watching wrestling with the smiths,sculitz,and angle I hope the us men's have some good up and comer. Iran and Russia seem to always have beast wrestling for them.

[rico]

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

I want to say I like watching wrestling with the smiths,sculitz,and angle I hope the us men's have some good up and comer. Iran and Russia seem to always have beast wrestling for them.

Yeah...a lot of it is cultural, IMO. From what I saw from this #2 nationally ranked Oak Park high school team today, I am going to take a wild guess and make the not so bold prediction that if wrestling becomes increasingly more and more popular with African Americans in the future, the United States will become more successful on the international scene (80-85% of the kids on that team were African American).

[GloryDayz]

I made it the school (Lees Summit) to watch some kids I coached as younger kids, but nothing else...

[rico]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I made it the school (Lees Summit) to watch some kids I coached as younger kids, but nothing else...

How'd they do?

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by rico

Yeah...a lot of it is cultural, IMO. From what I saw from this #2 nationally ranked Oak Park high school team today, I am going to take a wild guess and make the not so bold prediction that if wrestling becomes increasingly more and more popular with African Americans in the future, the United States will become more successful on the international scene (80-85% of the kids on that team were African American).

KC's Oak Park or another Oak Park?

I wrestled my freshman year but only did it because my friends did.. They quit right before the season and I kept on.

Got my ass handed to me at JV, but in my defense I was wrestling 20lbs heavier than what I was because they needed someone, I was like 2 and 20. I did well during freshman meets in my actual weight class.

I will admit it, I got pinned in 6 seconds during my one varsity meet. I was a fish.

Did not come back the next year after our last tourney. ****ing asshole had a raging hardon, I forfeited that ****ing match.

Probably would have did better the next year if I would have came back, but joined my idiot friends.

LOL, I still use some moves when I get stuck fighting drunks, friends or drunken friends to contain them.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Valiant

KC's Oak Park or another Oak Park?

I wrestled my freshman year but only did it because my friends did.. They quit right before the season and I kept on.

Got my ass handed to me at JV, but in my defense I was wrestling 20lbs heavier than what I was because they needed someone, I was like 2 and 20. I did well during freshman meets in my actual weight class.

I will admit it, I got pinned in 6 seconds during my one varsity meet. I was a fish.

Did not come back the next year after our last tourney. ****ing asshole had a raging hardon, I forfeited that ****ing match.

Probably would have did better the next year if I would have came back, but joined my idiot friends.

LOL, I still use some moves when I get stuck fighting drunks, friends or drunken friends to contain them.

Oak Park River Forest, IL.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Oak Park River Forest, IL.

Yep, this. For whatever reason, I've had a difficult time including the "River Forest" part. With an exception of the 145 lbs match, we wrestled like dogshit against those guys. It was frustrating to watch...just appeared completely shell-shocked and confused in throwing, seatbelt and shot-finish situations. They made us look stupid.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Valiant

KC's Oak Park or another Oak Park?

I wrestled my freshman year but only did it because my friends did.. They quit right before the season and I kept on.

Got my ass handed to me at JV, but in my defense I was wrestling 20lbs heavier than what I was because they needed someone, I was like 2 and 20. I did well during freshman meets in my actual weight class.

I will admit it, I got pinned in 6 seconds during my one varsity meet. I was a fish.

Did not come back the next year after our last tourney. ****ing asshole had a raging hardon, I forfeited that ****ing match.

Probably would have did better the next year if I would have came back, but joined my idiot friends.

LOL, I still use some moves when I get stuck fighting drunks, friends or drunken friends to contain them.

In 1978 my dad set my high school's fastest pin record with a fall in :07. That record stood until 3 years ago when a kid he coached for 10 years in the youth program broke it in his first ever high school tourney ....he broke the record by scoring a fall in 6 seconds.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by rico

How'd they do?

They went 3-1. Great night.