Chiefs Peter King: Chiefs distancing themselves from Piioli regime - Page 4

Deberg_1990 · 03-05-2013, 02:29 PM

Ummm....Has King ever watched a Chiefs game? Bowe has never been a deep threat. He excels in crossing routes and using his size and strength to break tackes for long gains.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl.../?sct=uk_wr_a2

The Kansas City Chiefs, in the span of one week, have distanced themselves about as far from the Scott ***** regime as possible. It'll take a while to find out, but the race is on to see if the commitments coach Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey made to three players will pay off in the form of a more competitive Chiefs team.

The Chiefs have a deal in principle for San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith; that could have happened under ***** as well, but it's thought he was going to spend a second-round pick on one of the rookie quarterbacks in the class of 2013. The team made an $11-million-a-year commitment to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in the form of a new five-year contract Monday. Those close to the Chiefs think ***** may have franchised Bowe, but never committed that kind of money to the occasionally unreliable receiver. ***** might have franchised left tackle Brandon Albert, but it's also very possible he would have let Albert walk and drafted a left tackle like Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft.

Bowe has been an electrifying receiver, and he could be the deep threat Reid loved in DeSean Jackson in Philadelphia. But will Smith -- whose throwing arm is just average, and who will be used more as an intermediate thrower than deep -- be able to use Bowe's playmaking ability downfield? I've never been in the camp of those who think Smith can't throw a strong 35-yard go route; it's simply that the deep balls are not his strength.

But Smith in 2011 and '12 under Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman proved there's more than one way to play quarterback. His average yards per attempt was 8.0 in 2012, significantly higher than renowned deep-ball throwers like Ben Roethlisberger (7.3), Joe Flacco (7.2), Jay Cutler (7.0) and Matthew Stafford (6.8).

I think there's a good chance ***** would have investigated Smith and quite possibly would have dealt for him. The personality profile, passing efficiency and age (28) would have appealed to *****.

But Smith, Bowe and Albert, in tandem, would probably not have happened under the old regime, and certainly not the big contract for Bowe. There will be an interesting chemistry experiment in Kansas City this season.

AdumbGuy · 03-05-2013, 03:33 PM

Kissingsuzykolber - a masochistic blogger reacts to Peter King's inanity.

An excerpt:

[Peter King article]
d. Watching the blizzard coverage on TV in New York Friday, I was sure thousands would be killed by the crush of snowflakes. Then I woke up Saturday, put on the TV, and saw pretty much the most common thing that happened in the Tri-State Area was that people were going to have to shovel for four hours.
e. We do tend to overreact to weather in this country.

[kissing suzy kolber response]
OH MY GOD **** YOU **** YOU **** YOU **** YOU FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUU

You’ve been lecturing about the problems of a cold-weather Super Bowl and the elements since the idea was first broached. I can’t believe the lack of self-awareness. This man has to be the biggest troll ever or a total sociopath.

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...-each-day.html

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

How about the fact that he's only played a full season twice in his career?

That's a good point as well

saphojunkie · 03-05-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

All you need to know about Pissoli is from his interview with KK about Peyton Manning.

(Paraphrased)
KK : I would have signed Peyton Manning.
SP: You should be the GM of the Denver Broncos, it would be good for the Chiefs
KK: So you don't think Peyton will be a good QB?
SP: I'd be willing to take bets he won't last, Time will tell.

6 months later SP is fired, lolz and Clark mentions SP inability to get PM in for an interview.

Actually, Pioli said that KK should be the GM of the Broncos after KK said he would have traded everything for RG3.

Now they both work in broadcasting, but the difference is that Pioli has never been right about the QB position in his life.

This guy is such a ****ing tool it's infuriating.

Seriously look at every move he made in 2009 and tell me a single one that was good.

DaWolf · 03-05-2013, 03:51 PM

Considering that Pioli also didn't sign Kyle Orton last year because he was getting paid more than he feels a backup should make by the Cowboys, it's fair to say that he thinks Colquitt and Bowe both got overpaid...

ReynardMuldrake · 03-05-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Its pretty confusing how a guy who really doesnt seem to know football all that well, somehow amasses such an impressive list of contacts who speak very candidly with him.

You'd think that the minute he started trying to talk about the game in front of them, they'd tune him out and vow to never spill anything in his presence... "this guy doesnt know what the hell he's talking about".

To compare two players so totally different?... as you say, a football genius he aint... i'd almost call him a glorified parrot that honcho's around the league go to to get their takes put out there.

Because he's a kiss ass that makes his sources feel smart. And ***** LOVES a kiss ass.

Hammock Parties · 03-05-2013, 04:34 PM

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But Smith in 2011 and '12 under Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman proved there's more than one way to play quarterback. His average yards per attempt was 8.0 in 2012, significantly higher than renowned deep-ball throwers like Ben Roethlisberger (7.3), Joe Flacco (7.2), Jay Cutler (7.0) and Matthew Stafford (6.8).

Hey look. It's Peter King again proving what a dumbass he is.

Hammock Parties · 03-05-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Claynus is still asleep in his parent's basement. Once he wakes up, I'm sure he'll find a way to refute it.

There's no need to "find a way." Anyone who reads this forum the last 3 days with any kind of attention knows that Alex Smith throws the ball deep less than almost every other QB in the league, including Casshole.

Peter King is a fat reerun.

**Iowanian** · 03-05-2013, 04:40 PM

Imagine how good Bowe might have been if Pioli had given him an actual NFL quarterback............

**Bowser** · 03-05-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Imagine how good Bowe might have been if ***** had given him an actual NFL quarterback............

He put up solid numbers with a group of pissants throwing him the ball. Would love to have ssen what he could have been with a Brady/Brees/Rodgers guy throwing to him.

Marcellus · 03-05-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Hey look. It's Peter King again proving what a dumbass he is.

Why is that? Just because he throws deep less doesn't mean his yards per attempt are bad.

What that stat tells you is he makes the most out of his attempts.

So you have a guy who throws it less than those other guys so he throws it deep less than those other guys but magically he gets more yards out of each attempt. Its likely due to completion % and YAC.

Hammock Parties · 03-05-2013, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Why is that? Just because he throws deep less doesn't mean his yards per attempt are bad.

Follow the ways in which Peter King is wrong:

1. Dwayne Bowe is not a deep threat.

2. Alex Smith does not throw the ball deep.

3. His YPA being high means jack.

If Peter King simply read one PFF article he would be more informed.

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His average depth of target of only 8 yards was the fourth-lowest of all quarterbacks and only 8.7 percent of Smith’s passes traveled 20+ yards downfield in 2012. Among quarterbacks who started at least half their games, only Christian Ponder had a lower percentage.

HotCarl · 03-05-2013, 04:53 PM

King usually writes pretty well, but he doesn't seem to understand Bowe's game at all. Not every receiver with a big body plays like Randy Moss.

Hammock Parties · 03-05-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl

King usually writes pretty well, but he doesn't seem to understand Bowe's game at all. Not every receiver with a big body plays like Randy Moss.

He constantly writes bullshit that reveals how ignorant he is about the NFL.

He's embarrassing, and he wrote this so he can set up an "I told you so" column if the Chiefs have a losing record this year without Pioli.

I can see it now. "Without Pioli, big signings don't pay off for Chiefs."

Marcellus · 03-05-2013, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Follow the ways in which Peter King is wrong:

1. Dwayne Bowe is not a deep threat.

2. Alex Smith does not throw the ball deep.

3. His YPA being high means jack.

If Peter King simply read one PFF article he would be more informed.

I get the Bowe isn't a deep threat thing which actually fits the scenario better anyway.

So what was Flacco and Big Ben's yards per attempt?

Hammock Parties · 03-05-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So what was Flacco and Big Ben's yards per attempt?

Who gives a shit? It has zero relevance to any discussions about Alex Smith. He's inferior to both of them.

03-05-2013, 02:29 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $134454	Peter King: Chiefs distancing themselves from Piioli regime Ummm....Has King ever watched a Chiefs game? Bowe has never been a deep threat. He excels in crossing routes and using his size and strength to break tackes for long gains. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl.../?sct=uk_wr_a2 The Kansas City Chiefs, in the span of one week, have distanced themselves about as far from the Scott *** regime as possible. It'll take a while to find out, but the race is on to see if the commitments coach Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey made to three players will pay off in the form of a more competitive Chiefs team. The Chiefs have a deal in principle for San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith; that could have happened under * as well, but it's thought he was going to spend a second-round pick on one of the rookie quarterbacks in the class of 2013. The team made an $11-million-a-year commitment to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in the form of a new five-year contract Monday. Those close to the Chiefs think * may have franchised Bowe, but never committed that kind of money to the occasionally unreliable receiver. * might have franchised left tackle Brandon Albert, but it's also very possible he would have let Albert walk and drafted a left tackle like Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft. Bowe has been an electrifying receiver, and he could be the deep threat Reid loved in DeSean Jackson in Philadelphia. But will Smith -- whose throwing arm is just average, and who will be used more as an intermediate thrower than deep -- be able to use Bowe's playmaking ability downfield? I've never been in the camp of those who think Smith can't throw a strong 35-yard go route; it's simply that the deep balls are not his strength. But Smith in 2011 and '12 under Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman proved there's more than one way to play quarterback. His average yards per attempt was 8.0 in 2012, significantly higher than renowned deep-ball throwers like Ben Roethlisberger (7.3), Joe Flacco (7.2), Jay Cutler (7.0) and Matthew Stafford (6.8). I think there's a good chance * would have investigated Smith and quite possibly would have dealt for him. The personality profile, passing efficiency and age (28) would have appealed to ***. But Smith, Bowe and Albert, in tandem, would probably not have happened under the old regime, and certainly not the big contract for Bowe. There will be an interesting chemistry experiment in Kansas City this season.
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03-05-2013, 03:33 PM	#46
AdumbGuy Starter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dominica, no seriously. Casino cash: $10004900	Kissingsuzykolber - a masochistic blogger reacts to Peter King's inanity. An excerpt: [Peter King article] d. Watching the blizzard coverage on TV in New York Friday, I was sure thousands would be killed by the crush of snowflakes. Then I woke up Saturday, put on the TV, and saw pretty much the most common thing that happened in the Tri-State Area was that people were going to have to shovel for four hours. e. We do tend to overreact to weather in this country. [kissing suzy kolber response] OH MY GOD ** YOU YOU YOU ** YOU FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK YOOOOUUUUUUUUUUU You’ve been lecturing about the problems of a cold-weather Super Bowl and the elements since the idea was first broached. I can’t believe the lack of self-awareness. This man has to be the biggest troll ever or a total sociopath. http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/...-each-day.html
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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Considering that Pioli also didn't sign Kyle Orton last year because he was getting paid more than he feels a backup should make by the Cowboys, it's fair to say that he thinks Colquitt and Bowe both got overpaid...
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HotCarl Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $10004900	King usually writes pretty well, but he doesn't seem to understand Bowe's game at all. Not every receiver with a big body plays like Randy Moss.
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