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**AustinChief** · 07-28-2013, 04:18 PM

Would it piss you off if a bar charged 8.25% sales tax (normal in Texas) on credit card tabs but ate the sales tax themselves on cash purchases?

To clarify a bit... CURRENTLY all bars here eat the tax on ALL purchases... it has to be built into the price. They aren't allowed to break it out but that all changes January 1st.
Of course it would be a complete pain to add sales tax to cash purchases but a no brainer for cc purchases.

But let's assume consumers are completely ignorant of any changes in tax code. They only see that now their credit card tabs have sales tax added. I understand a certain amount of people will be pissy but how bad would you rate the backlash?

Raiderhater · 07-28-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yeah, but I expect them to handle that without involving me. I don't order a hamburger and expect the waitress to say, "Tomato prices went up a little this week. You owe me three more cents."

Of course, I'm a big proponent that the advertised price of anything should be what it costs. It should be illegal to post a price and then charge the customer more, whether it's a rental car or a drink or a pair of shoes. If the price says, "$8", then I should be paying $8. I shouldn't be paying $8.16. The stated price is $8.

The price of tomatoes can fluctuate. The transaction charge on credit card purchases is more or less static as you have a set fee for the duration of your agreement/contract. A little bit different situation there.

jspchief · 07-28-2013, 05:24 PM

Bad law but trying to pass the cost to only cc users is bad business.

Raise prices across the board. An extra .25 per drink isn't what makes or breaks a bar.

Raiderhater · 07-28-2013, 05:28 PM

BTW, Kyle, I do not disagree with the stupidity of the law nor the further raising of taxes. I just do not see how implementing it is going to be as difficult as you seem to think.

Of corse with the "everything is bigger in Texas" mentality, I can see very easily how everyone will blow this up to make it a bigger problem than it really is.

Raiderhater · 07-28-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Bad law but trying to pass the cost to only cc users is bad business.

Raise prices across the board. An extra .25 per drink isn't what makes or breaks a bar.

Bingo.

jspchief · 07-28-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

who the hell tips a buck for a $2 tab?

A lot of non cheap-asses

ghak99 · 07-28-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

who the hell tips a buck for a $2 tab?

I have before, but she ended up being the worst piece of ass I ever paid for.

Earthling · 07-28-2013, 05:32 PM

I had my car fixed one time and I noticed they took Visa. The repair was about $600 and when they rang it up they said around $650. I told them they had quoted me $600 and they said the credit card company charged them and they were passing that on to to me, the credit card user. I went and got the cash instead, saving about $50 in the process and never used them ever again.

Anyway, I would raise the beer price to $2.25 and be done with it there, not charging extra for cc users. I would think the other establishments would be following suit.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 07-28-2013, 05:32 PM

I honestly could not tell you the last time I was in a bar.

jspchief · 07-28-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

I honestly could not tell you the last time I was in a bar.

Number of shits given = zero

Discuss Thrower · 07-28-2013, 05:35 PM

I'd say raise prices to .20 or .25 are the only option here.. Cushion the blow with some sort of special or something.

Earthling · 07-28-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Number of shits given = zero

I gave at work...

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 07-28-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Number of shits given = zero

I'm working on a fart.

Raiderhater · 07-28-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Earthling

I had my car fixed one time and I noticed they took Visa. The repair was about $600 and when they rang it up they said around $650. I told them they had quoted me $600 and they said the credit card company charged them and they were passing that on to to me, the credit card user. I went and got the cash instead, saving about $50 in the process and never used them ever again.

Anyway, I would raise the beer price to $2.25 and be done with it there, not charging extra for cc users. I would think the other establishments would be following suit.

Ok, I have a problem with this situation. You factor in the cost of your credit card fee into your prices up front. Then, if you want to discount that fee from cash purchases more power to you. But you do not add the transaction fee on after the fact.

That, and I know of no processing company that charges fifty bucks for a single transaction. I may be off a little bit, and will depend on the processing company you go with but, I want to say some where in the two to three dollar range is typical these days.

ghak99 · 07-28-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I'd say raise prices to .20 or .25 are the only option here.. Cushion the blow with some sort of special or something.

It would have to be .25. No way in hell does a staff, or the customers, want to deal with .20 exchanges.

Setsuna · 07-28-2013, 05:42 PM

Aren't they supposed to tax you?

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I would rant and piss and moan and never go to that bar again.	2	5.41%
I would be peevish and probably go to that bar less.	3	8.11%
I would just switch to cash at that bar.	15	40.54%
I wouldn't care at all.	15	40.54%
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07-28-2013, 04:18 PM
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07-28-2013, 05:24 PM	#47
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