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Old 01-30-2014, 12:17 PM  
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Game manager. What is that exactly?

During the course of the season the term 'game manager' has been used frequently to describe certain QB's in the league; usually in a negative sense. I was curious if there is a consensus on just what the heck that means to people here.

To me a game manager isn't a bad thing. I see it as someone who tries to keep moving the chains, and if that takes three plays of 4 yard gains, be it running or passing, that's ok as long as the chains keep moving.

Of course if the team is down by several scores, or time becomes an issue, then longer chunks of yardage would be necessary. To me a game manager would recognize that fact and try to manage the game accordingly at that point.

What do you all think? And is the opposite of a game manager a game mis-manager?
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:33 PM   #46
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Alex Smith was a playmaking quarterback down the stretch and played at an elite level in the playoff game.

With Andy as his coach, his game manager days are over.
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:38 PM   #47
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It just means "I don't like him as a QB". "Game manager" "Elite" "Franchise QB" are all really just us attempting to act like there's some objective status that makes a QB we like worthy and others not
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:38 PM   #48
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:47 PM   #49
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It just means "I don't like him as a QB". "Game manager" "Elite" "Franchise QB" are all really just us attempting to act like there's some objective status that makes a QB we like worthy and others not
Yeah, it's just us meanies on cp that have labeled Alex a game manager in the past.

Not other teams players or network talking heads....or basically anyone that has watched Alex Smith prior to the last 7 games of the 2013 season (including playoff game).
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:35 PM   #50
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It just means "I don't like him as a QB". "Game manager" "Elite" "Franchise QB" are all really just us attempting to act like there's some objective status that makes a QB we like worthy and others not
I think you just nailed it.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:40 PM   #51
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Everybody other than chiefs fans have labeled him a game manger. That's fine as long as he can win this franchise a playoff game.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:43 PM   #52
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Everybody other than chiefs fans have labeled him a game manger. That's fine as long as he can win this franchise a playoff game.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:56 PM   #53
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Someone who can't succeed in a different system.

Example: Matt Flynn.

Example of not being a system QB: Rivers (who went to an E/P from an Air Coryell and improved).



At least, that's how I define it.
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:06 PM   #54
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The answer is simple. A game manager is a quarterback who isn't going to hurt your team. He can consistently move the ball and with a good running game he can be part of a lethal offense. But he also won't necessarily lead the team to victory on his own accord if other thing go wrong. If the defense is getting gashed and the team is down by 21 points going in to the 4th quarter he probably won't be able to make up the deficit. If the running game gets completely shut down he will be hard pressed to carry the offense on his own. If the team is dealing with injuries at wide receiver or tight end he's probably not going to make the replacements look better than they are.

You can win with a game manager. But you probably need some combination of a great defense, great offensive line, or a great running game.
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:07 PM   #55
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How is it gold if you rank pretty low in third down efficiency? This is why I don't like the catch all for game management. If you're not managing the flow of the game by controlling the ball, then you're just a conservative QB. Great game managers can have awesome success by being extremely efficient.
A lot of stuff can effect 3rd down efficiency.
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:08 PM   #56
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Everybody other than chiefs fans have labeled him a game manger. That's fine as long as he can win this franchise a playoff game.
complete bullshit

other people talk him up, it's Chiefs fans that say he sucks.


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Old 01-30-2014, 11:11 PM   #57
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:15 PM   #58
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What's funny is that you guys will NOT call him a game manager even though non other than Andy Reid called Smith a game manager on an nfl network interview.
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complete bullshit

other people talk him up, it's Chiefs fans that say he sucks.


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Whatever.

That guy is right, Laz.

Google "game manager" and Alex Smith is LITERALLY 3 of the top 9 search results.
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The opposite of a game manager is a play maker.
I think most NFL coaches would disagree with this. A player can be both.
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