NFL considering pushing back extra point attempt

[sfuria]

Sorry if already posted, didn't see it anywhere.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...iters_battista

The NFL Competition Committee has discussed experimenting this preseason with a longer -- much longer -- extra-point try. According to one member, the committee's meetings this weekend included preliminary talks about placing the ball at the 25-yard line for the extra-point kick -- which would make it a 42-yard attempt -- rather than the 2-yard line, where it is currently placed.

Last season, kickers missed just five of 1,267 extra-point attempts, a conversion rate of 99.6 percent -- so good that Commissioner Roger Goodell recently suggested the demise of the extra point could be imminent, because it is almost automatic, and thus not exciting enough. A longer extra-point try certainly would make things more interesting and require significantly more strategizing. The conversion rate of field goals between 40 and 49 yards last season was 83 percent. The last time the extra-point conversation rate regularly fell below 90 percent was in the 1930s and early 1940s. That surely would give coaches something to ponder when weighing whether to kick for one point or try for two, with the success rate for two-point conversion attempts typically around 50 percent

I would LOVE this! Would make the game even more exciting in the last minutes when down by 7. And would add much more value to kickers. I expect that there would also be a lot more 2 point attempts. I really hope they do this.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by alnorth

This idea looks very good to me, its far superior to that earlier idea they had which I was already on board with.

A 42-yard PAT would greatly improve the game.

This.

I wasn't opposed to eliminating the PAT but this idea is that much better...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

You know something is broken when you can eliminate it and it would change absolutely NOTHING other than turning the league's leading scorer into a RB or WR.

THAT would be TERRIBLE.

Kickers will still lead the league in scoring.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Kickers will still lead the league in scoring.

I was talking about the proposal I liked. I edited it to make sense.

I want game outcomes to rely MORE on football players and LESS on soccer players. That's my feelings on why I dislike this rule change idea.

[Mr. Laz]

I don't know that it's the final solution but moving it back would be a good start.

[a pp roach]

or they could push it back farther in yardage and in time.. like no extra point kicks until the very end of the game and extra point attempts are tallied throughout the game so that a team down by 3 could win with no time left on the clock provided they scored 4 touchdowns in the game.

[a pp roach]

Originally Posted by a pp roach

or they could push it back farther in yardage and in time.. like no extra point kicks until the very end of the game and extra point attempts are tallied throughout the game so that a team down by 3 could win with no time left on the clock provided they scored 4 touchdowns in the game.

i just read that and i can confirm that is the dumbest idea ever.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by a pp roach

i just read that and i can confirm that is the dumbest idea ever.

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[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I was talking about the proposal I liked. I edited it to make sense.

I want game outcomes to rely MORE on football players and LESS on soccer players. That's my feelings on why I dislike this rule change idea.

The only way to get what you want is to eliminate the 3-point FG, not the PAT...

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The only way to get what you want is to eliminate the 3-point FG, not the PAT...

Do you often make a habit of stating factually incorrect things as if you are right? Did you even bother to look at the stats to discover if you were right, or do you just assume you always are?

By all means let's look at the leading scorer list from 2013 to see if there is veracity to your claims.

Stephen Gostkowski scored 158 points and led the NFL in scoring. If you eliminate only his XP's (44) he scores 114 points.

Now Jamaal Charles scored 19 TD's total to lead the NFL. If those TD's were worth 7 points he would have scored 133 points.

In conclusion 133 > 114

If you're referring to games decided by kickers, then your making no point. I can accept the influence but a 42 yard XP only INCREASES their impact while eliminating the stupid thing changes NOTHING but putting football players at the top of the scoring leaders. Kickers have enough influence over outcomes... why give them MORE?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by a pp roach

or they could push it back farther in yardage and in time.. like no extra point kicks until the very end of the game and extra point attempts are tallied throughout the game so that a team down by 3 could win with no time left on the clock provided they scored 4 touchdowns in the game.

Perhaps they could push them all to the end of the season. Instead of the pro bowl, all the kickers show up in Hawaii the day after Week 17 and kick all of the extra points for the season. It would get huge TV ratings since it would affect W/L records and playoff seedings.

[Rain Man]

After a touchdown, you have the following options:

1. Kick from the 25 with all 22 players on the field - 1 point.
2. Go for 2 from the two yard line.
3. Kicker, snapper, and holder get a free kick from their own 48 - 3 points.
4. Go for it from the 2, but the kicker plays QB and the punter is the only guy allowed in the backfield - 4 points.
5. Kick returner stands on his goal line. Every player on the defending team must be a lineman. If he scores, 5 points.
6. Double down on an ensuing onside kick. If the kicking team recovers, they can try a field goal worth 6 points.
7. Go for it from the 2 yard line, but the defense gets to put 5 cheerleaders and 5 random fans on the field in addition to the defense - 7 points.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Do you often make a habit of stating factually incorrect things as if you are right?

Of course. Everybody here does.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Did you even bother to look at the stats to discover if you were right, or do you just assume you always are?

No. Waste of time.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

By all means let's look at the leading scorer list from 2013 to see if there is veracity to your claims.

Stephen Gostkowski scored 158 points and led the NFL in scoring. If you eliminate only his XP's (44) he scores 114 points.

Now Jamaal Charles scored 19 TD's total to lead the NFL. If those TD's were worth 7 points he would have scored 133 points.

In conclusion 133 > 114

114 points would land one in the top 3-5 most years. You'd still have kickers leading the league in scoring in some years.

[Reerun_KC]

Punts, FGs and XP attempts are for quitters.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Of course. Everybody here does.



No. Waste of time.



114 points would land one in the top 3-5 most years. You'd still have kickers leading the league in scoring in some years.

Quit crying. It's okay that you say factually wrong things all the time without giving a shit if you're just blowing your ignorant face hole. You said something that was factually wrong.

Leading the league in scoring 'some' years (which I don't think would happen hardly ever since I can do elementary level math) is different than nearly every season. Again, the XP sucks and eliminating it entirely does nothing bad at all to the game. It just puts football players at the top of the scoring board. That's it's 'drawback'.

The drawback to a 42 yard XP is more game outcomes will rely on the quality of your soccer player.

I like one idea and dislike the other. I don't care if you agree, but you don't have to keep lying to validate your opinion.

[cosmo20002]

I say they get rid of that dang forward pass