Chiefs Compensatory picks. Kendrick Lewis for the win! - Page 4

chiefzilla1501 · 10-23-2014, 10:43 AM

Right now, branden Albert, asamoah, and Tyson Jackson have cemented themselves as starters. Kendrick Lewis is the wild card as he is actually playing a lot in Houston. Factor in that there are several cut players who raise the chiefs' lost value... Demps and mccluster are getting lots of snaps, and Schwartz was a projected starter.

Compare that to who the Chiefs gained. I would bet Mauga, Owens, and mcglynn were added too late. And mays and walker have barely played. Think we will be very pleased with our draft haul.

aturnis · 10-23-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Dumbass checking in...what the hell are compensatory picks, when do you get them? The regular draft, or the supplemental draft?

You're been here 11 years... The ****?

Marcellus · 10-23-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

pass the doobie, i need some of that

I am high even though I am the one using factual evidence to support my belief?

Cool! Roll me up another one and I will get you some more facts instead of silly rehashed comments that you favor so much.

Marcellus · 10-23-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

In what way is .500 better than last year?

How is 3-3 better than 6-0?

I really want to hear this...

So you don't actually watch the games you just look at the standings each week?

I bet you are one of the guys who complained we didn't beat any decent teams last year and only beat bad QB's. Am I right?

Oh yea, and Happy Birthday!

**Rausch** · 10-23-2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So you don't actually watch the games you just look at the standings each week?

No.

I haven't missed a game since 93.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I bet you are one of the guys who complained we didn't beat any decent teams last year and only beat bad QB's. Am I right?

And no.

I was one of those guys saying that the only reason we lost that playoff game was stupidity by the coaching staff and players doing things like going out of bounds with a huge lead...or Smith hiking the ball with over 15 seconds on the play clock...or not running the ball more.

Fat Andy is frustrating. He's conservative when we need to take a chance and takes risks when we should be conservative.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-23-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

I'm fairly certain there's going to be some kind of section for post-June1's in their "super secret" formula, alas, I believe there's also some kind of addition to the formula for guys acquired in free agency for depth, who step up and play well in the absence of the starters (Mauga as an example) and for guys who have little to no impact due to injury (Mays as an example).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eadline-deals/
"After June 1, free-agency acquisitions don’t count toward the compensatory pick calculation, either for the player’s former team or his new team." And Again, Abdullah and other "re-signed" players don't count.

The Chiefs will get a high pick for Albert. Mid-level pick for Asamoah and Tyson Jackson. And should get a 6th or 7th for everyone else they lost which would include McCluster and Lewis who are both starting. Those are high dollar players, they're all starting, and none of them can be neutralized by a player we signed.

cmh6476 · 10-23-2014, 04:52 PM

We need to start developing Latin talent like the royals

**Rausch** · 10-23-2014, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

You're been here 11 years... The ****?

**BossChief** · 10-23-2014, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Throw away an offseason for comp picks

I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

We upgraded at DE by letting Tyson Jackson walk while promoting Bailey, who is a clear upgrade. All while saving 4 million.

We upgraded from McCluster to Thomas and saved another 4 million by spending a late round pick.

We upgraded from Kendrick Lewis to Parker and saved a bunch of money while putting a guy back thare that teams don't want to test on deep routes.

Akeem Jordan to Mauga and JMJ...no question those are upgrades.

Eric Fisher is coming along nicely and is starting to show flashes of why he was so sought after...I still wish we could have kept Albert, but I understand that in a salary capped league, you can't keep everyone.

Abdullah was the best value free agent in the nfl.

Gaines didn't allow a pass to be completed to his man and prevented 2 scores.

I wish we could have kept Asamoah because he could have helped at RG, but again...it's a salary capped league. Paying guys like Asamoah 4/yr would have kept us from being able to keep someone like Houston long term.

I think saying he say on his hands and wasted this offseason is silly.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-23-2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

We upgraded at DE by letting Tyson Jackson walk while promoting Bailey, who is a clear upgrade. All while saving 4 million.

We upgraded from McCluster to Thomas and saved another 4 million by spending a late round pick.

We upgraded from Kendrick Lewis to Parker and saved a bunch of money while putting a guy back thare that teams don't want to test on deep routes.

Akeem Jordan to Mauga and JMJ...no question those are upgrades.

Eric Fisher is coming along nicely and is starting to show flashes of why he was so sought after...I still wish we could have kept Albert, but I understand that in a salary capped league, you can't keep everyone.

Abdullah was the best value free agent in the nfl.

Gaines didn't allow a pass to be completed to his man and prevented 2 scores.

I wish we could have kept Asamoah because he could have helped at RG, but again...it's a salary capped league. Paying guys like Asamoah 4/yr would have kept us from being able to keep someone like Houston long term.

I think saying he say on his hands and wasted this offseason is silly.

Even counting the net addition of Alex Smith's contract, we essentially saved $20M, will probably get 4 comp picks, and got not just a little better but a lot better.

And that's not even factoring in that we have defensive 2 pro bowlers sitting on the injury list right now.

Exoter175 · 10-23-2014, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eadline-deals/
"After June 1, free-agency acquisitions don’t count toward the compensatory pick calculation, either for the player’s former team or his new team." And Again, Abdullah and other "re-signed" players don't count.

The Chiefs will get a high pick for Albert. Mid-level pick for Asamoah and Tyson Jackson. And should get a 6th or 7th for everyone else they lost which would include McCluster and Lewis who are both starting. Those are high dollar players, they're all starting, and none of them can be neutralized by a player we signed.

I had never read that about June1, NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We're going to for sure land 4 compensatory selections then, as I don't believe any team in this league even comes close to losing what we've lost.

How does Schwartz fit into the deal though? He doesn't fall under the "previous year signed, then released" clause, does he count? Because if he does that should jump over McCluster or Lewis, yes? I'd think that's 1 high, 3 mids then.

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

We need to start developing Latin talent like the royals

Two words, Rookie.......Kicker.......

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

We upgraded at DE by letting Tyson Jackson walk while promoting Bailey, who is a clear upgrade. All while saving 4 million.

We upgraded from McCluster to Thomas and saved another 4 million by spending a late round pick.

We upgraded from Kendrick Lewis to Parker and saved a bunch of money while putting a guy back thare that teams don't want to test on deep routes.

Akeem Jordan to Mauga and JMJ...no question those are upgrades.

Eric Fisher is coming along nicely and is starting to show flashes of why he was so sought after...I still wish we could have kept Albert, but I understand that in a salary capped league, you can't keep everyone.

Abdullah was the best value free agent in the nfl.

Gaines didn't allow a pass to be completed to his man and prevented 2 scores.

I wish we could have kept Asamoah because he could have helped at RG, but again...it's a salary capped league. Paying guys like Asamoah 4/yr would have kept us from being able to keep someone like Houston long term.

I think saying he say on his hands and wasted this offseason is silly.

I agree with most of this, not all of it, but most of it. Especially the parts about the "hidden" upgrades there in the departure of McCluster and Jackson.

Direckshun · 10-23-2014, 11:42 PM

My math:

Brandon Albert gets a fat contract + no signed replacement (Fisher) = 3rd rounder

Tyson Jackson gets a really good contract + Vance Walker signed for $20m less and hardly plays = 4th rounder, maybe 5th

Jon Asamoah gets a really good contract + cheap scrap heap deal for Linkenbach = 4th rounder, maybe 5th

Geoff Schwartz gets a good contract + no signed replacement (Fulton) = 5th, maybe 6th

McCluster gets a good contract + no signed replacement (Thomas) = 5th rounder, maybe 6th.

Lewis and Demps get regular playing time, but we get similar playing time out of Coleman, so I'm guessing that's a wash...

Best case scenario, we get a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 5th.

I'm guessing we get a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th, and a 6th.

Direckshun · 10-23-2014, 11:44 PM

The only player from that bunch that we're really missing is Schwartz, as Fulton doesn't quite fill the void.

Everybody else we've largely replaced. We've lost out on TJax's excellent runblocking but the passrushing we get from virtually anybody who lines up at this spot (Bailey/Howard/Vickerson) is far better.

Direckshun · 10-23-2014, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Throw away an offseason for comp picks

It should be noted that for the "thrown away" draft season, we're actually better this year than we were last year.

Plus we're going to have 11 draft picks for next year.

Direckshun · 10-23-2014, 11:48 PM

The players the Chiefs lost signed combined contracts of $100m more than what the newly signed Chiefs cost.

AND WE'RE BETTER.

Dorsey, balling out.

Direckshun · 10-23-2014, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

so then no WR,LG or Secondary help needed?

Dorsey should just give Reid his salary and call it even.

This isn't entirely wrong.

Dorsey has been shopping exclusively out of the bargain bin for a year now, and Reid has been the one making it work.

10-23-2014, 10:43 AM
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1765503	Compensatory picks. Kendrick Lewis for the win! Right now, branden Albert, asamoah, and Tyson Jackson have cemented themselves as starters. Kendrick Lewis is the wild card as he is actually playing a lot in Houston. Factor in that there are several cut players who raise the chiefs' lost value... Demps and mccluster are getting lots of snaps, and Schwartz was a projected starter. Compare that to who the Chiefs gained. I would bet Mauga, Owens, and mcglynn were added too late. And mays and walker have barely played. Think we will be very pleased with our draft haul.
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10-23-2014, 11:42 PM	#56
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	My math: Brandon Albert gets a fat contract + no signed replacement (Fisher) = 3rd rounder Tyson Jackson gets a really good contract + Vance Walker signed for $20m less and hardly plays = 4th rounder, maybe 5th Jon Asamoah gets a really good contract + cheap scrap heap deal for Linkenbach = 4th rounder, maybe 5th Geoff Schwartz gets a good contract + no signed replacement (Fulton) = 5th, maybe 6th McCluster gets a good contract + no signed replacement (Thomas) = 5th rounder, maybe 6th. Lewis and Demps get regular playing time, but we get similar playing time out of Coleman, so I'm guessing that's a wash... Best case scenario, we get a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 5th. I'm guessing we get a 3rd, a 4th, a 5th, and a 6th.
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10-23-2014, 11:44 PM	#57
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	The only player from that bunch that we're really missing is Schwartz, as Fulton doesn't quite fill the void. Everybody else we've largely replaced. We've lost out on TJax's excellent runblocking but the passrushing we get from virtually anybody who lines up at this spot (Bailey/Howard/Vickerson) is far better.
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10-23-2014, 11:48 PM	#59
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	The players the Chiefs lost signed combined contracts of $100m more than what the newly signed Chiefs cost. AND WE'RE BETTER. Dorsey, balling out.
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