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Old 12-21-2014, 05:41 PM   #1
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:47 PM   #2
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Not only giving up valuable picks to get him, stubbornly refusing to see what he is. They also failed to build any kind of team around him that would capitalize on his strengths and help hide his glaring weaknesses. Instead chose to protect him with the worst O line in chiefs history and give him a record breaking receiving corp-worst in NFL history at this point.
And this is exactly why I couldn't believe they did N-O-T-H-I-N-G this past off season. Most surprising because both Dorsey and Reid had bad seasons with GB and Philly respectively when they had OL issues. To have a JAG OL Plus JAG WR's in addition to a JAG QB is a recipe for exactly what happened this year in KC. Saw this coming as did most. When you consider they didn't build on the success of last year, it's even more of a waste than just looking at this season in a singular sense.
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:48 PM   #3
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"If You Cant Score Touchdowns You Dont Deserve to go to The Playoffs".

Theres your 2015 motto that hangs above the lockerroom exit.
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:52 PM   #4
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"If You Cant Score Touchdowns You Dont Deserve to go to The Playoffs".

Theres your 2015 motto that hangs above the lockerroom exit.

But.. But.. But.. The game was close! There was no need to risk trying for the TD! Play it safe and take the points!

This pussy ass franchise and its brain washed fans. TD win most games. Score more and win more. **** this playing not to lose bullshit.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:06 PM   #5
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But.. But.. But.. The game was close! There was no need to risk trying for the TD! Play it safe and take the points!

This pussy ass franchise and its brain washed fans. TD win most games. Score more and win more. **** this playing not to lose bullshit.
On that note, to be honest I'd be a liar if I said I didnt think Reid should've taken the three right before half... we get the ball next half only down 1.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:49 PM   #6
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On that note, to be honest I'd be a liar if I said I didnt think Reid should've taken the three right before half... we get the ball next half only down 1.
What would Denver do?
What would Indy do?
What would NE do?

We need to do the same damn thing if we want to compete with those teams.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:01 PM   #7
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And also, I love ya gblowfish... but seriously cant believe that you're on the JC is a dog bandwagon, holy shit dude, stop blaming him... in the words of Sweet Daddy "its like blaming sugar for being sweet".

"He doesnt show up in big games?"... he shows up in NINETY NINE PERCENT OF GAMES, how about SOMEONE ELSE showing up once in a while?
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:06 PM   #8
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Old 12-21-2014, 05:55 PM   #9
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8. Jamaal Charles may be the best running back in Chiefs history. But he is not a big game player, and is not a clutch player. He is injury prone, and he is mistake prone. He does not shine when most needed. Today he fumbled at a critical point in a 10-6 game, bringing about a potential 14-point swing; killing a Chiefs drive at the Pittsburgh 25. Then Pittsburgh marches the ball right down the field for seven and moves to a 17-6 lead, and game over. Charles could only manage 29 yards on nine carries, that's less than three yards a carry. Meanwhile, Bell runs for 63 yards and a TD. That's not great production, but he did score a TD in a critical game at a critical time. Charles has to prove to me he can be a difference maker in a game that means something important. He's never done that. Unfortunately, he's been beat up, or had a concussion, or for whatever reason couldn't rise to the occasion. His inability to stay healthy was a major reason we lost the Colts playoff game last year. Wasn't his fault he got hurt, but I'm just saying, the great ones rise to the occasion. Charles has never done that as a Chief. The NFL is a cruel, results oriented business. So by the standards of measurement in the NFL, it makes him a very good player. Not a great player compared to other backs in clutch situation. He may be in the Hall of Fame someday, but his lack of post season production will temper the discussion.
Disagree on this. Jamaal is not built to take the pounding he does by DL and LB's. Our offensive line is so bad that he can't get past first level tackles very often. Sure some of it is his fault but I think we need major upgrades on the OL.


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5. Andy Reid made Alex Smith throw 45 times today. He only ran the ball 14 times. If Charles was too banged up to run, then pound Knile Davis. Davis is a capable big back. He's a lot like.....oh, say BELL of Pittsburgh. This kind of offensive imbalance is why we lose. If you are going to throw the ball all day, where is Kelce? Four catches? The only play Kelce was involved in that meant anything was a fake field goal. Then after showing the stones to try to sustain a drive for seven, they run Charles up the middle, Fasano gets beat on his block and Charles makes a yard. Then Bowe drops the fade in the end zone, then on third down Alex gets chased around the right side with no time to throw, because Fisher got beat by Harrison again. Alex meekly runs out of bounds at the five, and we kick a field goal. Then the Steelers march right down field to score their first TD. I think Andy knew that we'd need TDs to hang today. I think that's why he went for the fourth and one right before halftime. He gambled on Fisher and lost.
Kelce can't seem to hold on to the ball to save his life. I'm tired of him fumbling it EVERYTIME he makes a catch.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:22 PM   #10
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Disagree on this. Jamaal is not built to take the pounding he does by DL and LB's. Our offensive line is so bad that he can't get past first level tackles very often.
A serious point made.

JC is consistently asked to beat linemen and backers, consistently being asked to pound it between the tackles... its not the recipe for success with a guy like JC, this line is absolute dogshit, everyone but Hudson can suck my dong.

Fisher? dudes a bust, he just is... no better than this at the end of his second season? **** HIM.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:26 PM   #11
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A serious point made.

JC is consistently asked to beat linemen and backers, consistently being asked to pound it between the tackles... its not the recipe for success with a guy like JC, this line is absolute dogshit, everyone but Hudson can suck my dong.

Fisher? dudes a bust, he just is... no better than this at the end of his second season? **** HIM.
Yep. 2 seasons and he sucks. I thought maybe he could get better and be a solid starter at LT but that was just wishful thinking. A #1 overall pick....jesus man. Just **** me with a red hot fire poker.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:36 PM   #12
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Yep. 2 seasons and he sucks. I thought maybe he could get better and be a solid starter at LT but that was just wishful thinking. A #1 overall pick....jesus man. Just **** me with a red hot fire poker.
Feel no guilt my man, its perfectly reasonable to expect a second year guy who's moved back to his "natural/lol" position to make a big jump in his second year.

He hasnt, he got schooled by ancient ass James Harrison twice... hate that feeling that I've been had like this, the Chiefs are like buying my first $50 bag of weed in high school... expecting big things, a world of wonder... and I got three fingers worth of oregano instead.
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:41 PM   #13
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Feel no guilt my man, its perfectly reasonable to expect a second year guy who's moved back to his "natural/lol" position to make a big jump in his second year.

He hasnt, he got schooled by ancient ass James Harrison twice... hate that feeling that I've been had like this, the Chiefs are like buying my first $50 bag of weed in high school... expecting big things, a world of wonder... and I got three fingers worth of oregano instead.
Harrison is still a good player, but yeah. I feel ya. I wouldn't feel as bad about Fisher if he wasn't.....a #1 overall pick.....
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Feel no guilt my man, its perfectly reasonable to expect a second year guy who's moved back to his "natural/lol" position to make a big jump in his second year.

He hasnt, he got schooled by ancient ass James Harrison twice... hate that feeling that I've been had like this, the Chiefs are like buying my first $50 bag of weed in high school... expecting big things, a world of wonder... and I got three fingers worth of oregano instead.
Yep, deal is he might be like Robert Gallery in that he will NEVER be even an adequate LT in the NFL. If you remember he too played RT at first and was AWFUL. They moved him to LT, the position he was drafted to play, and he was even WORSE. It was obvious after 3 seasons that he would never be able to play either side in the NFL. So, Oakland moved him to LG where they actually got some pretty decent years out of him. Deal is, I'm not sure Fish has what it takes to play Guard. He might indeed be a TOTAL BUST. Last year he couldn't participate 100% in the off season strength & conditioning program because of his surgeries. I'm curious to see how he plays after finally getting a whole off season worth of work in... If he's not cutting it, I'm working on a plan B. In fact, if I'm Dorsey and Reid, I'm doing that now. NOBODY on the OL should be set at their position - the OL is THAT bad.
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Did you see how much more time Benny R. had compared to Smith? It's pathetic how bad our O-line is.
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