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Old 08-24-2016, 11:58 AM  
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Bosa rejects Chargers "best" offer
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Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:48 PM   #46
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Its not bizaare at all. He doesnt want to play for the Chargers. its not the first player thats basically done this.

Its not crazy, bazaar, weird or anything. He is saying pay me what i want because i dont really want to play for S.D.
Who else other than Eli Manning has said that they didn't want to play for the Chargers?
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:49 PM   #47
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i'm curious to know which party decided to die on 'this' hill: bosa or his agent?

does a drafted player have any real concern for whatever contract language is in dispute unless his agent sells him on caring?
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:49 PM   #48
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Who else other than Eli Manning has said that they didn't want to play for the Chargers?
And the Manning situation was completely different. They knew they were going to get a trade on draft day.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:50 PM   #49
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And the Manning situation was completely different. They knew they were going to get a trade on draft day.
And Archie is a douche.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:51 PM   #50
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i'm curious to know which party decided to die on 'this' hill: bosa or his agent?

does a drafted player have any real concern for whatever contract language is in dispute unless his agent sells him on caring?
I'm sure its the Agent and Bosa's dad.

Guarantee Bosa wants to play football, but he's getting bad advice.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:55 PM   #51
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I can not

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NOT.

believe you all are siding with the Chargers over Bosa on this. The CHARGERS ARE BEING ASININE ABOUT THIS.

This is not Bosa's issue, this is Dean Spanos being an egotistical reerun. The Bosas are absolutely correct to not sign and bow to this ridiculous contract.
Wholeheartedly agree with you. Blows my mind that so many people are posting that its Bosa's fault.
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:55 PM   #52
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I can not

CAN.

NOT.

believe you all are siding with the Chargers over Bosa on this. The CHARGERS ARE BEING ASININE ABOUT THIS.

This is not Bosa's issue, this is Dean Spanos being an egotistical reerun. The Bosas are absolutely correct to not sign and bow to this ridiculous contract.
Bosa and his agent are reeruns
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:01 PM   #53
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Wholeheartedly agree with you. Blows my mind that so many people are posting that its Bosa's fault.
and what exactly is wrong with the offer that the Chargers gave Bosa


offset clause if he gets cut? You can thank Terelle Owen's crying ass for that shit.

He would sign a contract, turn into a huge pain in the ass so he got cut and then go to a new team and repeat the process. I believe at one point he was "getting" signing bonus money from 3 or 4 different teams at the same time.

Teams don't want players intentionally not playing once they get their signing bonus ala Owens
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Or Ronnie Stanley. Or DeForest Buckner.

Literally anybody else they were rumored to be interested in, but instead they took Bosa to play him at 3-4 DE.
That literally shocked me that they took him for their scheme, I am a huge Ohio State fan, and I will tell you Bosa is unreal. The kid is unblockable one on one, he is relentless. He played some stand up LB/hybrid stuff at OSU, and it wasn't his best fit. He is a machine in regards to rushing and stopping the run, and he can play inside or out in the 4-3, but the 3-4 is not a great fit for him. He would make plays in the 3-4 because he is just relentless, but square peg, round hole IMO.
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Wholeheartedly agree with you. Blows my mind that so many people are posting that its Bosa's fault.
What's unreasonable about the offer?

It's industry standard. Sure, some teams don't use the exact format, but many of them do.

This isn't the Chargers telling him they'd pay him in pennies and only during leap years. They offered him a contract that's in line with every other contract they've offered (and had accepted) by previous 1st round picks. The contract is comparable to contracts given by teams around him and by teams that have drafted in/around that position over the previous several years.

Bosa's the one being unreasonable here.
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What's unreasonable about the offer?

It's industry standard. Sure, some teams don't use the exact format, but many of them do.

This isn't the Chargers telling him they'd pay him in pennies and only during leap years. They offered him a contract that's in line with every other contract they've offered (and had accepted) by previous 1st round picks. The contract is comparable to contracts given by teams around him and by teams that have drafted in/around that position over the previous several years.

Bosa's the one being unreasonable here.
Bosa is being offered a contract that no one else(top 5 pick) has accepted since 2012. They've either gotten the bonus at once or the offset language was removed. The Chargers won't do either. A similar situation happened last year with Mariota but both sides met in the middle which is something the Chargers aren't willing to do.
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Bosa is being offered a contract that no one else(top 5 pick) has accepted since 2012. They've either gotten the bonus at once or the offset language was removed. The Chargers won't do either. A similar situation happened last year with Mariota but both sides met in the middle which is something the Chargers aren't willing to do.
Yup, this is on the Chargers.
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Bosa and his agent are reeruns
As far as I understand top draft picks get a choice between deferred language or the bonus up front.

Chargers continue to offer neither, so they can protect themselves.

The way it's being framed in the media, which obviously supports the NFL, is that Bosa is simply demanding his full bonus up front when he's essentially asking for the same thing every other player at his draft slot has received since 2012 and what 95% of draft picks in the top 3 rounds have received in the same span.

50% up front with offset language is a bad rookie deal for Bosa, and that's what had been offered. The new offer was basically the same thing with 60% up front.

The chargers, as usual, have been active in smearing Bosa and setting the narrative that he's just a greedy asshole. The truth is they're just squeezing pennies because their shit organization is broke.
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