Chiefs LNBS: 10 things that need to happen after the bye - Page 4

**BossChief** · 10-10-2016, 10:58 PM

1) Justin Houston needs to get back. Quickly. The whole defense is predicated on putting pressure on opposing passers and forcing mistakes. With a hobbled Hali/underwhelming Dee Ford being the only immediate options as edge rushers (Dadi needs a ton more snaps, too) it's putting undue pressure on everyone else. The corners are having to cover longer. The DL isnt getting one on one looks, as much. All that changes after Houston gets back. He's gonna force RTs to step wide to protect the edge and utilize the TE to help block him and that helps everyone else. Without him, this team probably misses the playoffs.

2) Alex Smith needs to play like he did in the second half of 2013/his better games from 2015. If I were the coach, he would be on a short leash and expected to be highly effective to retain the starting spot. If he struggles against Oakland and NO, I'd split the practice starter reps with him and Foles the next week. This offense has too much talent to be this unproductive and Alex plays like a damn pussy out there. He needs to man up and lead this team or let Nick Foles take over.

3) Chris Jones needs to take over the starting spot from Allen Bailey. This kid is gonna be special and I think Bailey would be a great guy to rotate at both end spots. Whatever the reason, this kid is gonna be the "Marcus Peters of the DL" for us. No question about it. A very special player. When he's out there, he's constantly flashing BIGTIME ability. The DL needs a shakeup because they should be a lot more disruptive. I honestly think starting Jones would make a big difference on this defense.

4) Tyreek Hill needs to get the third most snaps of any WR on the roster going foreward or it's a coaching fail. Albert Wilson makes me want to kick puppies. I hate that no effort giving pussy. Tyreek has the talent to be a full blown difference maker on offense that's every bit as good as Percy Harvin was if used correctly. I said it while at camp after seeing him in person, this kid is going to be a star and its clear to see on game day what I was seeing in practice. I'm not surprised that he already has scored 4 touchdowns in 4 games (2 being called back for nonsense). This is going to sound absurd, but he just might be our *most skilled* offensive player. He has ELITE: speed, quickness, vision, field awareness, acceleration, spin move, and hands (I know he had the drops in one game, but he caught every pass I saw at camp and 2-3 of those were AMAZING catches. The kid needs to be on the field 60% of the time.

5) Jamaal Charles and Spencer Ware need to be our thunder and lightening and Andy Reid needs to run the ball a lot more. This has a chance to be the best 1-2 punch in the NFL and with the attention the rest of the offense should be getting, the RBs should be able to be very productive.

6) Eric Berry needs to play like a guy wanting to be paid like the best safety in the game. IMO he's taken a small step backwards from last year. He seems to be out of position on the deep ball more often than usual and he's s guy we need to be able to depend on. Step it up, Eric. We all want to see you earn that payday!

7) The OL needs to step up. I think they are playing better than it appears due to Alex playing like a coward, but the unit needs to step up. We simply have too much invested in the OL for them to not play like a top 5 OL. They need to come out and make a statement against Oakland and allow the offense to operate effectively. The guys have been playing together for long enough that they should start to show the cohesion you want/need upfront. It's gonna be troubling if they have a lot of difficulty with Oaklands from 7.

8) Phillip Gaines need to get/stay healthy. No question about it, this is a better defense with Gaines out there. This is a very important year for this young Chiefs team and guys like Phillip, specifically. If he can stay on the field and continue to improve, the defense will be a lot better come playoff time and going into next year.

9) Marcus Peters needs to stay focused on the goal and keep his cool in heated matchups. We need him at his best, to improve on defense. Honestly, I think he plays much better when truly challenged and emotionally invested, but he needs to be aware that opposing QBs will be trying to fool him and he needs to be smart about his gambles.

10) WRs and TEs need to maximize opportunities. With Alex Smith, these guys need to make sure they secure every catch and get every yard they can after the catch. These drops by Maclin have been game changers and we really need him to be dependable for the offense to be effective. Same goes with Kelce, Harris, Travis, Hill, Wilson, Thomas, and the backs....everybody needs to be blocking and fighting for every yard and score.

I still think this team has the potential to go deep in the playoffs, but a few guys need to step their game up for us to do so.

OctoberFart · 10-11-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

Run the ball.
Like, lots more.

You think your coach is capable of that?

**New World Order** · 10-11-2016, 05:59 PM

Raiders d looks like the 03 Chiefs. I hope they throw.

**BossChief** · 10-11-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum

Typical loss always taking someone else's word as football law and not watching for himself. Clay is right Reek is a mccluster clone, just like DAT was. A couple short yardage TD's doesn't change anything.

Typical maner. Completely ignorant towards the topic.

I have a bunch of videos I took myself and posted on here at training camp of Tyreek and I also posted in real time while there.

Try to keep up.

ChiefAshhole1056 · 10-11-2016, 06:26 PM

Hill is two blocking in the back penalties away from being a known commodity in the national spotlight. Anyone trying to downplay his talent is being a troll and should be introduced to your "ignore" list.

Halfcan · 10-11-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

This

I don't see how anyone can defend that lack of focus and aggression that this team shows on a regular basis. This team coming out fired up and ready to go has become the exception rather than the rule.

I challenge anyone to play this drinking game.

1. You have to take a drink each time: You see a defense 'standing around the pile' instead of trying to make the play. You'll know that lackadaisical guy that would rather avoid contact than sacrifice his body to stop the guy from making the extra yards for a 1st down etc.

and

2. Take a drink anytime an offensive guy goes through a play without blocking anyone or showing a decided lack of effort to make the play. Like when Albert wilson steps out of bounds instead of risking contact to the get 1st down. Alligator arms on a catch. QB who would rather go into the fetal position than stand tall and take the shot to complete the pass. When an Olinemen blocks for a couple of seconds and then just stops before the whistle blows for no apparently reason other than looking lazy.

You'll likely have to go to the hospital for alcohol poisoning by the end of the game.

Sounds like a great way to get wasted.

Chief Roundup · 10-11-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

I hope that's not true. Keeping him playing even though he's sucking ass should not be tolerated by Dorsey when you have a better option on the bench.

If they just screw over the players and let this season go down the drain without giving Foles a shot then we are screwed as fans. Smith doesn't deserve the respect franchise QB's get.

No we do not. Foles is not better than Smith. He is just not Smith which in your mind it makes him better.
If you think there is any chance that ANY QB other than Smith starts or plays in a game without an injury you are WRONG in a huge way. But that isn't a stretch for you.

Chief Roundup · 10-11-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

1) Justin Houston needs to get back. Quickly. The whole defense is predicated on putting pressure on opposing passers and forcing mistakes. With a hobbled Hali/underwhelming Dee Ford being the only immediate options as edge rushers (Dadi needs a ton more snaps, too) it's putting undue pressure on everyone else. The corners are having to cover longer. The DL isnt getting one on one looks, as much. All that changes after Houston gets back. He's gonna force RTs to step wide to protect the edge and utilize the TE to help block him and that helps everyone else. Without him, this team probably misses the playoffs.

2) Alex Smith needs to play like he did in the second half of 2013/his better games from 2015. If I were the coach, he would be on a short leash and expected to be highly effective to retain the starting spot. If he struggles against Oakland and NO, I'd split the practice starter reps with him and Foles the next week. This offense has too much talent to be this unproductive and Alex plays like a damn pussy out there. He needs to man up and lead this team or let Nick Foles take over.

3) Chris Jones needs to take over the starting spot from Allen Bailey. This kid is gonna be special and I think Bailey would be a great guy to rotate at both end spots. Whatever the reason, this kid is gonna be the "Marcus Peters of the DL" for us. No question about it. A very special player. When he's out there, he's constantly flashing BIGTIME ability. The DL needs a shakeup because they should be a lot more disruptive. I honestly think starting Jones would make a big difference on this defense.

4) Tyreek Hill needs to get the third most snaps of any WR on the roster going foreward or it's a coaching fail. Albert Wilson makes me want to kick puppies. I hate that no effort giving pussy. Tyreek has the talent to be a full blown difference maker on offense that's every bit as good as Percy Harvin was if used correctly. I said it while at camp after seeing him in person, this kid is going to be a star and its clear to see on game day what I was seeing in practice. I'm not surprised that he already has scored 4 touchdowns in 4 games (2 being called back for nonsense). This is going to sound absurd, but he just might be our *most skilled* offensive player. He has ELITE: speed, quickness, vision, field awareness, acceleration, spin move, and hands (I know he had the drops in one game, but he caught every pass I saw at camp and 2-3 of those were AMAZING catches. The kid needs to be on the field 60% of the time.

5) Jamaal Charles and Spencer Ware need to be our thunder and lightening and Andy Reid needs to run the ball a lot more. This has a chance to be the best 1-2 punch in the NFL and with the attention the rest of the offense should be getting, the RBs should be able to be very productive.

6) Eric Berry needs to play like a guy wanting to be paid like the best safety in the game. IMO he's taken a small step backwards from last year. He seems to be out of position on the deep ball more often than usual and he's s guy we need to be able to depend on. Step it up, Eric. We all want to see you earn that payday!

7) The OL needs to step up. I think they are playing better than it appears due to Alex playing like a coward, but the unit needs to step up. We simply have too much invested in the OL for them to not play like a top 5 OL. They need to come out and make a statement against Oakland and allow the offense to operate effectively. The guys have been playing together for long enough that they should start to show the cohesion you want/need upfront. It's gonna be troubling if they have a lot of difficulty with Oaklands from 7.

8) Phillip Gaines need to get/stay healthy. No question about it, this is a better defense with Gaines out there. This is a very important year for this young Chiefs team and guys like Phillip, specifically. If he can stay on the field and continue to improve, the defense will be a lot better come playoff time and going into next year.

9) Marcus Peters needs to stay focused on the goal and keep his cool in heated matchups. We need him at his best, to improve on defense. Honestly, I think he plays much better when truly challenged and emotionally invested, but he needs to be aware that opposing QBs will be trying to fool him and he needs to be smart about his gambles.

10) WRs and TEs need to maximize opportunities. With Alex Smith, these guys need to make sure they secure every catch and get every yard they can after the catch. These drops by Maclin have been game changers and we really need him to be dependable for the offense to be effective. Same goes with Kelce, Harris, Travis, Hill, Wilson, Thomas, and the backs....everybody needs to be blocking and fighting for every yard and score.

I still think this team has the potential to go deep in the playoffs, but a few guys need to step their game up for us to do so.

How could anyone disagree with the list? It mentions every position group except the kickers. You even mention Reid.
When you have to ask EVERY group of players to improve and the coaching to improve, you are probably asking for more than can be delivered.

Saccopoo · 10-11-2016, 10:55 PM

Can I play?

1. outside pressure on the opponent's QB is minimal. Dee Ford looks horrible.

2. There are no viable DB options past Peters at this point. Horrible Rd3 draft pick in 2016.

3. The entire LB corps is atrocious. That everyone here pinned their hopes on a 6'0", 220 lb. safety conversion (Lillard) to save the position is laughable.

4. Dontari Poe. In a contract year, through four games, he's got 7 combined tackles (3 solo and 4 assists) and .5 sacks.

5. Why is DeAnthony Thomas taking up a roster spot?

6. Why is Knile Davis taking up a roster spot?

7. Why is Anthony Sherman taking up a roster spot?

8. The defense was horribly addressed by Dorsey this offseason. After three seasons, they have to know Ford is a bust. They have to know that Hali is injury plagued and old. They have to know that Houston's knee is ****ed. And their options were releasing Moses initially and making sure that Zombo was the man. And maybe, just maybe, a sixth round undersized defensive end rookie making a position switch would hold them over until Houston could come back at 100% in 2017 (maybe). And a ****ing horrible miss on Rd3 CB Keivarae Russell.

9. Gaines is injured and missed games. Again. With no one other than a rookie or substandard players backing up the CB position.

10. Hold on to the ****ing ball. When Kelce is bitching about people not being able to hold onto the ball, you know it's bad. (Thanks for the playoff miss/loss against Phoenix Travis.)

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-11-2016, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Can I play?

1. outside pressure on the opponent's QB is minimal. Dee Ford looks horrible.

2. There are no viable DB options past Peters at this point. Horrible Rd3 draft pick in 2016.

3. The entire LB corps is atrocious. That everyone here pinned their hopes on a 6'0", 220 lb. safety conversion (Lillard) to save the position is laughable.

4. Dontari Poe. In a contract year, through four games, he's got 7 combined tackles (3 solo and 4 assists) and .5 sacks.

5. Why is DeAnthony Thomas taking up a roster spot?

6. Why is Knile Davis taking up a roster spot?

7. Why is Anthony Sherman taking up a roster spot?

8. The defense was horribly addressed by Dorsey this offseason. After three seasons, they have to know Ford is a bust. They have to know that Hali is injury plagued and old. They have to know that Houston's knee is ****ed. And their options were releasing Moses initially and making sure that Zombo was the man. And maybe, just maybe, a sixth round undersized defensive end rookie making a position switch would hold them over until Houston could come back at 100% in 2017 (maybe). And a ****ing horrible miss on Rd3 CB Keivarae Russell.

9. Gaines is injured and missed games. Again. With no one other than a rookie or substandard players backing up the CB position.

10. Hold on to the ****ing ball. When Kelce is bitching about people not being able to hold onto the ball, you know it's bad. (Thanks for the playoff miss/loss against Phoenix Travis.)

This is the bizzaro 10 to Boss' OP, and his was good.

Saccopoo · 10-11-2016, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

This is the bizzaro 10 to Boss' OP, and his was good.

Kudos to Boss for a terrific thread starter. I knew it was going to be huge!

But is was milquetoast.

Summary: 1 - 10: Everyone needs to be playing better.

Hoover · 10-12-2016, 12:38 AM

1. catch the damn ball.
2. Grab'em by the pussy.

**Dave Lane** · 10-12-2016, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I know you're being intentionally obtuse, GoChiefs.

He could have already had 5 or 6 TDs.

He's scored twice that stood, had 2 ST TDs called back, Alex overthrew him at least once for a TD...

And that's just in his first 4 games of his rookie season.

David Culley just gushes about Hills potential, too. Says he has gotten better each day and that he has the skill to be an outside receiver, not just a slot guy.

I hope the kid keeps his hands off women.

If he does, he's gonna be a star.

Just grab them by the pussy, then all will be good.

**Dave Lane** · 10-12-2016, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

1. catch the damn ball.
2. Grab'em by the pussy.

God damn it!

Titty Meat · 10-14-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

Yuge game this week. Denver is going to lose.

What up tho?

ThaVirus · 10-14-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

What up tho?

Injured QB on the road against a division rival on a short week.

How did you ever guess?

10-10-2016, 10:58 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1755912	LNBS: 10 things that need to happen after the bye 1) Justin Houston needs to get back. Quickly. The whole defense is predicated on putting pressure on opposing passers and forcing mistakes. With a hobbled Hali/underwhelming Dee Ford being the only immediate options as edge rushers (Dadi needs a ton more snaps, too) it's putting undue pressure on everyone else. The corners are having to cover longer. The DL isnt getting one on one looks, as much. All that changes after Houston gets back. He's gonna force RTs to step wide to protect the edge and utilize the TE to help block him and that helps everyone else. Without him, this team probably misses the playoffs. 2) Alex Smith needs to play like he did in the second half of 2013/his better games from 2015. If I were the coach, he would be on a short leash and expected to be highly effective to retain the starting spot. If he struggles against Oakland and NO, I'd split the practice starter reps with him and Foles the next week. This offense has too much talent to be this unproductive and Alex plays like a damn pussy out there. He needs to man up and lead this team or let Nick Foles take over. 3) Chris Jones needs to take over the starting spot from Allen Bailey. This kid is gonna be special and I think Bailey would be a great guy to rotate at both end spots. Whatever the reason, this kid is gonna be the "Marcus Peters of the DL" for us. No question about it. A very special player. When he's out there, he's constantly flashing BIGTIME ability. The DL needs a shakeup because they should be a lot more disruptive. I honestly think starting Jones would make a big difference on this defense. 4) Tyreek Hill needs to get the third most snaps of any WR on the roster going foreward or it's a coaching fail. Albert Wilson makes me want to kick puppies. I hate that no effort giving pussy. Tyreek has the talent to be a full blown difference maker on offense that's every bit as good as Percy Harvin was if used correctly. I said it while at camp after seeing him in person, this kid is going to be a star and its clear to see on game day what I was seeing in practice. I'm not surprised that he already has scored 4 touchdowns in 4 games (2 being called back for nonsense). This is going to sound absurd, but he just might be our most skilled offensive player. He has ELITE: speed, quickness, vision, field awareness, acceleration, spin move, and hands (I know he had the drops in one game, but he caught every pass I saw at camp and 2-3 of those were AMAZING catches. The kid needs to be on the field 60% of the time. 5) Jamaal Charles and Spencer Ware need to be our thunder and lightening and Andy Reid needs to run the ball a lot more. This has a chance to be the best 1-2 punch in the NFL and with the attention the rest of the offense should be getting, the RBs should be able to be very productive. 6) Eric Berry needs to play like a guy wanting to be paid like the best safety in the game. IMO he's taken a small step backwards from last year. He seems to be out of position on the deep ball more often than usual and he's s guy we need to be able to depend on. Step it up, Eric. We all want to see you earn that payday! 7) The OL needs to step up. I think they are playing better than it appears due to Alex playing like a coward, but the unit needs to step up. We simply have too much invested in the OL for them to not play like a top 5 OL. They need to come out and make a statement against Oakland and allow the offense to operate effectively. The guys have been playing together for long enough that they should start to show the cohesion you want/need upfront. It's gonna be troubling if they have a lot of difficulty with Oaklands from 7. 8) Phillip Gaines need to get/stay healthy. No question about it, this is a better defense with Gaines out there. This is a very important year for this young Chiefs team and guys like Phillip, specifically. If he can stay on the field and continue to improve, the defense will be a lot better come playoff time and going into next year. 9) Marcus Peters needs to stay focused on the goal and keep his cool in heated matchups. We need him at his best, to improve on defense. Honestly, I think he plays much better when truly challenged and emotionally invested, but he needs to be aware that opposing QBs will be trying to fool him and he needs to be smart about his gambles. 10) WRs and TEs need to maximize opportunities. With Alex Smith, these guys need to make sure they secure every catch and get every yard they can after the catch. These drops by Maclin have been game changers and we really need him to be dependable for the offense to be effective. Same goes with Kelce, Harris, Travis, Hill, Wilson, Thomas, and the backs....everybody needs to be blocking and fighting for every yard and score. I still think this team has the potential to go deep in the playoffs, but a few guys need to step their game up for us to do so.
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10-11-2016, 05:59 PM	#47
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ChiefAshhole1056 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Austin, TX Casino cash: $6191100	Hill is two blocking in the back penalties away from being a known commodity in the national spotlight. Anyone trying to downplay his talent is being a troll and should be introduced to your "ignore" list.
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10-11-2016, 10:55 PM	#53
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	Can I play? 1. outside pressure on the opponent's QB is minimal. Dee Ford looks horrible. 2. There are no viable DB options past Peters at this point. Horrible Rd3 draft pick in 2016. 3. The entire LB corps is atrocious. That everyone here pinned their hopes on a 6'0", 220 lb. safety conversion (Lillard) to save the position is laughable. 4. Dontari Poe. In a contract year, through four games, he's got 7 combined tackles (3 solo and 4 assists) and .5 sacks. 5. Why is DeAnthony Thomas taking up a roster spot? 6. Why is Knile Davis taking up a roster spot? 7. Why is Anthony Sherman taking up a roster spot? 8. The defense was horribly addressed by Dorsey this offseason. After three seasons, they have to know Ford is a bust. They have to know that Hali is injury plagued and old. They have to know that Houston's knee is **ed. And their options were releasing Moses initially and making sure that Zombo was the man. And maybe, just maybe, a sixth round undersized defensive end rookie making a position switch would hold them over until Houston could come back at 100% in 2017 (maybe). And a ing horrible miss on Rd3 CB Keivarae Russell. 9. Gaines is injured and missed games. Again. With no one other than a rookie or substandard players backing up the CB position. 10. Hold on to the **ing ball. When Kelce is bitching about people not being able to hold onto the ball, you know it's bad. (Thanks for the playoff miss/loss against Phoenix Travis.)
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10-12-2016, 12:38 AM	#56
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2151821	1. catch the damn ball. 2. Grab'em by the pussy.
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