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Old 11-07-2016, 08:38 AM  
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Should we take Foles' $10 mill option this offseason?

So we've got him here. He appears to be a good backup. But his contract seems to indicate that Dorsey wanted to take a stab to see if he's better than Alex.

Is he worth it?
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:34 PM   #46
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:39 PM   #47
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NFL films "Nick Foles misses wide-open Tyreek Hill in end zone."

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Hell NO.
Foles had some WTF throws yesterday and also some that he held too long. This was not one of them. You can't tell because of the angle but if he doesn't throw it there it is intercepted. If he were to throw it earlier to a spot so the reciever could be there then yes. But they showed a replay from the end zone camera angles at the game and the LB was just waiting for it to be thrown ahead of the reciever. Just an FYI.
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:44 PM   #48
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Dump Alex, give Nick his 10 mil for one season and draft a damn QB in the early rounds.
You may possibly be the dumbest poster in the history of Chiefsplanet. And that's saying something. Even the homer Donks fans have more sense than you. I thought NutFumble was the dumbest poster ever. But you make even him look like a genius.
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:44 PM   #49
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I doubt Foles expects $10m for the Chiefs or for any team. Turn it into a 2-3 year extension. I would think he'd take that as a 3 year deal. He's a much, much better version of chase Daniel. And he's a very important piece with Alex at 33 - he may be needed as a backup more than usual, and the Chiefs need a quick plug in if Alex shows unexpectedly declines rapidly or calls it quits. Id be willing to overpay for 2-3 years of insurance
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:48 PM   #50
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Depends on how long you expect Smith to keep playing. Think Foles has more upside. Prob have to let him walk but I kind of like the idea of keeping him around for another year as a QB in waiting
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:21 PM   #51
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Sarcasm I assume.
No. A wide open 8-yard pass over the middle is exactly the type of pass Alex Smith is capable of making every time.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:23 PM   #52
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You may possibly be the dumbest poster in the history of Chiefsplanet. And that's saying something. Even the homer Donks fans have more sense than you. I thought NutFumble was the dumbest poster ever. But you make even him look like a genius.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:25 PM   #53
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Void Foles' contract. Draft a quarterback in the first 2 rounds of next year's draft. Start Alex until it's the young buck's time. Continue to prosper.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:27 PM   #54
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Unless Foles makes a huge a progression in Reid's offense this year (which is highly unlikely, IMO), no one is going to give Foles a starting job, let alone a "Premium" back up job.

His best bet, IMO, is continue to work with Reid as a backup QB and maybe get a chance to start somewhere in 2018 or 2019.

I just don't think there's going to be a market for Foles.
Chip Kelly and the 49ers are bound to be desperate. They restructured Kaep's contract so that both sides will walk away next offseason.. in which they then have zero QBs on the roster.

I'd have to expect some interest in Foles there.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:27 PM   #55
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As an NFL starter, Nick Foles is not better than Alex Smith. (And Smith is a very good NFL starting level QB.) Nick Foles is perfect for this team in the role he is currently serving in.

The question is as posed in the OP - is he better than Tyler Bray in the #2 role for the 2017 season? That will probably be ruminated for the rest of the season by Dorsey and the coaching staff and equate it to the dollars required to keep him in that role and what it costs to keep Bray in the #3 position or finally move him up to the #2 (if they deem him capable of filling that role).

I personally feel that the Chiefs had serious interest in drafting Paxton Lynch in the 2016 Draft to groom for a potential QBOTF for the team. And they need to look at the 2017 QB class to seriously evaluate the position. Smith will be 33 years old when the '17 season begins, and while he hasn't shown any signs of degradation in his game, it's simply a numbers game once an NFL player hits their mid 30's.

His current contract runs through the 2018 season. Depending upon his health and Smith's own personal outlook towards the future, I could see the team giving him a two or three year deal going into the 2019 season.

However, consideringing his age and contract, I would expect the Chiefs to very seriously look at this next year's crop of QB's for a QBOTF.

Nick Foles is 27. Tyler Bray is 24. Do the Chiefs consider either to be the long term solution to the QBOTF question?

Reid's offensive system is complex and it is predicated on accuracy and timing. He also likes a somewhat mobile QB that provides a scramble/run option element to the offense. I'm not sure that either Foles or Bray gives that at a full time starter level.

Personally, I think that they were surprised that Kevin Hogan was snatched off the practice squad as they viewed him as someone that was worth considering as a potential QBOTF from a development perspective. I think that they roll the dice again, and might even move up for a guy they like as they do have quite a number of picks in the 2017 draft, which is the first draft that will allow compensatory draft picks to be traded.

However, back to the OP - no, I don't think that they resign Nick Foles for $10 million per. I think that Bray and he are very similiar type of QB's and Bray will most likely move into the #2 spot for the 2017 season. Foles was signed because Daniel signed with Philadelphia. He knew the system and it was an easy plug in for the #2 spot going into the beginning of the season. Bray will be that guy in 2017 and they will draft a potential QBOTF in the '17 Draft, which is not a great QB class, so they will really have to fall in love with a guy . They will probably even look at bringing back Hogan or even possibly Murray for insurance purposes.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:29 PM   #56
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:55 PM   #57
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Chip Kelly and the 49ers are bound to be desperate. They restructured Kaep's contract so that both sides will walk away next offseason.. in which they then have zero QBs on the roster.

I'd have to expect some interest in Foles there.
No one knows if Chip Kelly and the 49ers front office even survive past this season.

Secondly, why would Kelly sign a guy a he traded away, expecially when he was a failure in St. Louis and replaced by Case Keenum? But hell, if they want him, they can have him if they're going to overpay.

I'd rather have Blaine Gabbert as a back up.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:57 PM   #58
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