NFL Cap Projected at $166-169 million

[pugsnotdrugs19]

The Chiefs are not going to be able to sign much of anyone this offseason. They will need to depend largely on in-house development and the next draft class, and that's okay.

Need guys to step up in big ways that are already on the team, as I don't foresee any major signings for us on the market.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The Chiefs are not going to be able to sign much of anyone this offseason. They will need to depend largely on in-house development and the next draft class, and that's okay.

Need guys to step up in big ways that are already on the team, as I don't foresee any major signings for us on the market.

Dorsey is in such a good position right now. So many young players that are contributors with just the right amount of highly paid veterans. 2017/2018 are our years to shine. Gotta find that a run-stopping linebacker and a mean running back and we will be the most complete team in the league.

[RunKC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2atC_PUUAErqs4.jpg:large

Here's the pic. NFLPA says the Chiefs carried over $5 million from last season.

5-rollover
6-Foles
6-Charles
11-cap increase

That's $28 million if true, $23 million with projected $5 million cap hit from Berry's new deal.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2atC_PUUAErqs4.jpg:large

Here's the pic. NFLPA says the Chiefs carried over $5 million from last season.

5-rollover
6-Foles
6-Charles
11-cap increase

That's $28 million if true, $23 million with projected $5 million cap hit from Berry's new deal.

Take out about $6M for the draft class and another 4-5 million for RFA's. And who knows whether Tardiff got any any additional $ in his deal for this year.

[The Franchise]

So Overthecap.com has our cap space at $9.5 but that doesn't include Berry. So if you figure his first year cap hit at $5M.....then we're roughly at $4.5 million in cap room left.

That's without removing Foles either. If you cut him....it puts our cap space at $15.8 million before Berry.

[RunKC]

I think OTC is behind. NFLPA released the statement of our $5 million carryover from 2016. Nick Foles is still on there and the cap rise has to be $11 million.

5-carryover
11-cap rise
6-Foles
6-Charles

$28 million - Berry cap hit (5?). We should have at least $20 million from what I'm seeing.

[Ringless]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I think OTC is behind. NFLPA released the statement of our $5 million carryover from 2016. Nick Foles is still on there and the cap rise has to be $11 million.

5-carryover
11-cap rise
6-Foles
6-Charles

$28 million - Berry cap hit (5?). We should have at least $20 million from what I'm seeing.

This is incorrect. Sportrac and OTC build in estimates during the year for the expected cap rise. It's a common misconception each off-season. They then adjust it when the actual figure is released. So you guys have 1 million less to work with than was estimated. The Carryover is already accounted for as well.

[Ringless]

It is easy to forget OTC and sportrac already estimate what the new salary cap will be beforehand. That money was already accounted for.

You can't assume the cap will continue to rise forever either, there will be a peak. The more people that stream from home, etc can and will have an effect on this as well. The Chiefs in fact have 1 million less than was expected.

Another thing that is easy to forget is Sportrac and OTC go off the top 51 contracts. However that is not a true reflection of cap space either. At the start of the season every penny must be accounted for that was paid out to players.

If the Chiefs have 8.7 million in cap space, they must also roughly save around 5 million for the rookie pool, and another 2 million for in season signings for when others players go to IR etc. They are going to need to create more cap space which Foles will be the one to offer up via his declined option.

[The Franchise]

OTC has already adjusted the cap to $168 on their page....and Charles is off as well.

[Ringless]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

OTC has already adjusted the cap to $168 on their page....and Charles is off as well.

Prior to this adjustment OTC and Sportrac were estimating 169 million in space since at least December. So in fact it is 1 million less than their websites had reflected previously. The number you saw had already built in the expected cap rise prior to the league statement.

The Chiefs at this time dont have any cap space to work with hence the backloaded deals of Berry and LDT. Of course Foles will create 11 million when he comes off the books on the 9th. But then you need 5 million for your rookie pool, and 2-3 million for in season signings for injured players. In addition, it wont be the top 51, but all players that got paid a penny. So that is more off the cap.

Here is a perfect example, if you go to OTC right now, and click on the Chiefs they have the 2018 cap estimate at 178 million (calculated a year in advance)

So thats another estimated 11 million rise added into the cap space next year leaving the Chiefs with 30 million in 2018 (3rd least). That is also before Berry, and LDT contracts are added in. 13 million + 8 total of 21 leaving them with 9 next season. Before signing anymore extensions, adding any players etc.


The only way out for the Chiefs is to release Alex Smith in 2018, and Tamba Hali to have a manageable cap after this year. Essentially they are all in in 17. I'm by no means a Chiefs fan so this is just outside speculation and non-biased. But I can see the Chiefs moving on from Smith, Hali, and possibly Andy Reid if there is not a playoff appearance and or wins this season. It only makes sense.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

OTC is currently up to date with the set cap and our rollover, but does not have Berry on there. Add him, subtract Foles, and we should have around $10-11M in cap room.

[Ringless]

Sportrac currently has the Chiefs 351,113 over the cap with the new tenders done based off the top 51. They have the Chiefs 9,451,353 over with all contracts currently assigned. When the Foles option is declined tomorrow that will free up 6.75m, leaving 6.39 million. The Chiefs, currently have 5.1 million designated for upcoming draft picks from rounds 1-5 which would leave 1.29 million for any other signings in season, or off-season. It seems they still need to create at least another 5-7 million in space to make this work.

[Mother****erJones]

Cap space is bs. Teams can work around it. Just ask Denver who cheats it all the time.