Chiefs Ten Things About Today's Game: Week 13 NYJ 38, KC 31 - Page 4

**gblowfish** · 05:11 PM

Ten Things About Today’s Game: Week 13, NYJ 38, KC 31

10. I’m not going to waste a lot of keystrokes on this one. So I’ll cut to the chase. The Jets came into this game with a 4-7 record, losers of five of their last six games. They started a QB who’s played for 8 different NFL teams. They had the worst point differential in the fourth quarter of any NFL team. Chiefs blew a 14 point first quarter lead, gave up 331 yards passing, forced no turnovers and had zero sacks. 38 points is the most points the defense have given up in a single game this season.

9. Bob Sutton should be relieved of his duties. Jets went 65% on third down and 100% on fourth down. Jets scored on 7 of their last 8 possessions. First half, Chiefs could not stop the run left over Zombo. Second half, couldn’t stop the run right over K-Pass. After coming out down 21-17 at the half, Chiefs kick off to the Jets; then defense gives up an 18 play, nine minute Jets drive ending in a field goal, to go up 24-17. In that drive Jets convert 5 straight third down conversions. Chris Jones is doing nothing. Logan commits a stupid penalty to allow the Jets final TD, running over the field goal snapper. K-Pass did nothing except draw one holding penalty. DJ was spying McCown and twice let him scramble for a first on third down. Roches gets up and does a bunch of histrionics every time he makes a tackle. He should save his energy to stopping people on third down. Chiefs had ten sacks in the first four games, and eight sacks total in all the games since. Total Fail. Where was Justin Houston today? Nowhere. Simply Nowhere.

8. The Chiefs must have the worst defensive secondary in the league. Revis was made a Captain, then went out and missed several tackles and was sat down for Mitchell in the second half, who proceeded to go out and got roasted. Was Revis that much worse? In Andy's presser he said Revis played 39 snaps and that was enough for this week. Nelson was beat all day on third down slants and had two monster penalties in the fourth quarter. Nelson and Parker missed a tackle to allow a 50-yard pass play to Kearse. After Smith hits Hill for a 79 yard bomb in the third to tie the game, Mitchell gets beat on a bomb and Sorensen makes it worse by adding a roughing the passer penalty. Jets go down and hit a 47 yard field goal to take the lead back. Then there’s Peters. We’ll get to him in a minute.

7. You can blame Alex for this loss. You cannot blame Alex for this loss. I can prove it either way. Alex threw for 366 yards and four TDs, and was the leading rusher with a single 70 yard run. The play before that run he missed Hill by under throwing him, or Hill would have had three TDs today. After Alex’s run we have the ball first down on the Jets 16. Hunt runs for two yards. Alex takes a sack. Then Andy takes a time out, and Nagy calls a special play. The play was so special Alex got sacked again, and Buttkicker has to kick a 38 yard field goal. So we go up 17 to 14 instead of 21 to 14. Alex’s record when his team gives up 24 points or more is now 9-43. With all the defensive failure, Alex got the ball back on the 25 yard line with 2:16 and no timeouts. Even with hitting Hill for 50 yards on another under thrown pass, Chiefs get the ball down to the Jets 19 yard line with a minute left. Alex overthrows end zone. Then Hunt drops a pass. Then Smith throws into a double covered Robinson, and on 4th down, he forces the ball at Kelce where the pass was nowhere close. So when Alex is given the chance to tie or win the game. He failed. Again. On the TV shots of Alex on the sidelines in the second half, there was a lot of him sitting alone on the bench, head down, literally twiddling his fingers, looking like he was foreboding the defense being on the field and not stopping anything. Bad body language again this week.

6. Kelce spots the team a 14 point lead, and the team doesn’t even look at him until the final two minutes, where they throw him one pass, and throw the last desperation pass somewhat at him. Tyreek would have had an even better day if Alex wouldn’t have under or over thrown him on three or four plays. We basically got nothing from Wilson or Robinson. Today four TDs to the two main skill guys was not enough. Not getting anything from Kareem Hunt is killing this team.

5. Peters should be benched for the rest of the season, and certainly benched for the next game against the Raiders. Since he wants to be a Raider, that would hit him where it hurts. I’ll be shocked if the Chiefs staff does anything to Peters for his stupidity. This one is on Clark Hunt. Peters was not ejected, but he was escorted by Chiefs security off the field. Peters was smiling and laughing as he left; he threw his gloves into the stands, and took his socks off, until somebody had to run into the locker room and tell him he was still eligible. He walked back to the field and started having a conversation with somebody in the stands. After the game he left before the press was allowed into the locker room. Peters should be traded in the off season, and if we’re able to get a first or second round draft pick, pick another corner. Chiefs should use EVERY draft pick on defensive backs next year, or spend all their available free agent money on defensive backs.

4. Special teams have eroded to the point where Dave Taub should be looked at very critically at season end. We continue to run kickoffs out from seven yards deep; starting from inside the 20 on multiple occasions. We almost got a penalty on a fair catch. We had one nice punt return, but we also missed a field goal. That field goal would have been a big difference in the momentum of the first half.

3. Andy’s presser was the typical “I need to fix things. We were close, just couldn’t get it done, yap yap yap." Same as it ever was. Here’s a couple things on coaching: Not throwing to Kelce for most of the second half was stupid. On our third drive, Alex got flushed, and then we got a delay of game to kill the first quarter momentum. Jets got back into the game after that. Third Quarter, after the Jets took a 27-24 lead, Chiefs have a third and one and throw a “Tackle Eligible” Wile E.Coyote gimmick play to a double covered Irving. Meanwhile, Kareem Hunt on the other side is five yards past the marker uncovered, waving for the ball. In the fourth quarter, Chiefs burn a time out at the 11 minute mark because they couldn’t get lined up on defense. That time out would have been real handy in that last two minutes. At the end of the game Peters flips out, and I doubt if Andy will do anything about it, because he’s a “players coach.” Inmates are running the asylum.

2. This has been a complete and utter collapse, and the Chiefs will do their best to put lipstick on the pig the next few days. If the Raiders win their next game, we are no longer playoff eligible. Think about that. We had a three game lead on the entire division going into the Pittsburgh game. We’ve gone oh for New York State this season. That’s on Andy Reid.

1. Seriously thinking about putting the rest of my tickets up on NFL Exchange for the rest of the season. Can’t see freezing my ass off to watch this kind of football. I’ve seen this movie under Herm and Gunther and Romeo. This team has been hot garbage for six weeks and the ownership and coaching staff are in denial about it all. Until they figure it out -which won't be this year- nothing is going to get any better. And if by some miracle they do happen to win the AFC West -which is highly doubtful at this point- they’ll refuse to play Mahomie, unless Alex gets injured. Since Morse went out and Witzman is back in, that's entirely possible. Alex may decide to just sit out the final month in “protocol.” I may do the same.

Titty Meat · 12-03-2017, 07:12 PM

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journeyscarab · 12-03-2017, 07:31 PM

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otherstar · 12-03-2017, 07:39 PM

Thanks, George!

PAChiefsGuy · 12-03-2017, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Here's a picture of your leader in the fourth quarter, rallying his guys....

I think I am one of the biggest Smitty fans here but one thing I will say... He's not a leader... He's a good QB IMO but he's way too nice/quiet of a guy to have that leader role.

stevieray · 12-03-2017, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Here's a picture of your leader in the fourth quarter, rallying his guys....

early in the fourth, only down 3?

cmon man.

**Buehler445** · 12-03-2017, 07:47 PM

Excellent read as always George.

My comment in the Chat during the first 2 drives was, "wow the Jets are bad." Nothing changed my mind during the rest of the game. And we still managed to not get it done. What an abysmal performance.

RE: Smith v Mahomes. Smith played a decent game, but he missed a lot of reads and throws. Hill has excellent reaction to the ball because Smith underthrew EVERY SINGLE pass to Hill.

I used to think Smith was still the answer, because as electric as Mahomes was in the preseason he missed the timing stuff pretty badly, and a few of the short throws sailed because of his feet. However, most of Smith's yards were on passes to dudes WIDE open in soft spots in the zone. Mahomes can do that. Simplify the gameplan and playcalls, get in his ear about what to look for and let's get this show on the road. I'm ready.

The big thing is we know what McCown is. And yet, McCown outplayed Smith. I don't care what the stats are, none of McCowns guys were as open as Hill, Kelce et al. Scheme made Smith's plays. McCown made McCowns plays. He fit the ball into TIGHT windows. Smith just hit a few open guys.

RE: Terrance Mitchell. I haven't ever seen a guy who's coverage looks good get so many passes completed on his head. He runs with receivers, keeps his position, gets his hands up and can't seem to keep the completion from happening. He's doing what a guy wants, he's making the completion difficult. But it always manages to squeak through. I've never seen anything like it. If Nelson, Peters, Parker, Gaines, whoever gets it completed on them, it's because they got burned. Mitchell seems to have good coverage. And it's been enough time to be statistically significant. I'd love to understand WTF is going on, but I can't.

RE: Defense. Why the hell do we play in nickel and dime all the time? It obviously isn't stopping the pass game. Why the hell don't we focus on crushing the run and let our pass rushers rush? We can't cover shit either way.

Rasputin · 12-03-2017, 07:57 PM

I'm going keep harping and hating on Alex Shitty Smitty because he doesn't play that good when he doesn't have to worry about his job or feel any pressure.

How did he just flip a switch?

**HemiEd** · 12-03-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Imagine the Chiefs ending the season with a sub-.500 record after starting 5-0. I'm sure that will be a first in the NFL and of course another special record that the Chiefs can add to their Hall of Futility!

We do set some special records!

last year the Vikings started out 5-0 and had to win their last game to go 8-8 IIrc. They missed the playoffs.

I am really starting to think this whole thing is a farce, rigged.

cooper barrett · 12-03-2017, 07:59 PM

Great write up George. I didn't want to read it but I am glad I did.

I posted a "who's head should roll" Poll and I intentionally left Peters off of it.

I agree with you, sell him for someone who wants to play football. As bad as the D is we need him for the rest of the season just in case... I BET THE LEAGUE IS GOING TO MAKE THIS HURT THE TEAM MORE THAN HIM.

Don't give up hope, you may still get to go to CA for a wild card game. IJS

**HemiEd** · 12-03-2017, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63

Imagine the Chiefs ending the season with a sub-.500 record after starting 5-0. I'm sure that will be a first in the NFL and of course another special record that the Chiefs can add to their Hall of Futility!

We do set some special records!

last year the Vikings started out 5-0 and had to win their last game to go 8-8 IIrc. They missed the playoffs.

I am really starting to think this whole thing is a farce, rigged. Both LA teams are in the hunt, ratings have to be making a rebound.

**HemiEd** · 12-03-2017, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Here's a picture of your leader in the fourth quarter, rallying his guys....

He already knows how it is going to end. He knows he is done and doesn't care. Just earning his paycheck.

**Rain Man** · 12-03-2017, 08:09 PM

The positive thing is that we learned that consistently passing downfield to Hill and Kelce is pretty much unstoppable. If they ever do it, the Chiefs will go 16-0.

Deberg_1990 · 12-03-2017, 08:10 PM

What's up with the NFL schedule makers giving the Chiefs 3 home games in a row in December? Has that ever happened before?

**Rain Man** · 12-03-2017, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

What's up with the NFL schedule makers giving the Chiefs 3 home games in a row in December? Has that ever happened before?

They want to completely destroy our spirits.

nkd · 12-03-2017, 08:15 PM

These defense so bad it would literally be demoralizing playing for this team.

What was that 17 plays in the end zone? Unreal!

If they didnt suck so bad and only allowed a field goal. Chiefs would have won this game. They had all the time outs, which they wasted due to their incompetence and lack of composure.

They also helped burn the entire clock.

Oh how about buttkicker makes that field goal. If butt kicker makes that field goal shit despite defense sucking so bad we still win this game likely.

That defensive performance was just pure pathetic. Alex could have put up 37 points, including the missed filed goal and which would have allowed for another field goal had the defense only kept them at field goal attempt.

Oh on the last drive the pass to Hill was thrown the way it was thrown. He was being covered deep. So Alex threw under to give him space. Had he thrown deep it would have a chance of being picked. Watch that play again please.

12-03-2017, 04:44 PM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17606178 VARSITY	Ten Things About Today's Game: Week 13 NYJ 38, KC 31 Ten Things About Today’s Game: Week 13, NYJ 38, KC 31 10. I’m not going to waste a lot of keystrokes on this one. So I’ll cut to the chase. The Jets came into this game with a 4-7 record, losers of five of their last six games. They started a QB who’s played for 8 different NFL teams. They had the worst point differential in the fourth quarter of any NFL team. Chiefs blew a 14 point first quarter lead, gave up 331 yards passing, forced no turnovers and had zero sacks. 38 points is the most points the defense have given up in a single game this season. 9. Bob Sutton should be relieved of his duties. Jets went 65% on third down and 100% on fourth down. Jets scored on 7 of their last 8 possessions. First half, Chiefs could not stop the run left over Zombo. Second half, couldn’t stop the run right over K-Pass. After coming out down 21-17 at the half, Chiefs kick off to the Jets; then defense gives up an 18 play, nine minute Jets drive ending in a field goal, to go up 24-17. In that drive Jets convert 5 straight third down conversions. Chris Jones is doing nothing. Logan commits a stupid penalty to allow the Jets final TD, running over the field goal snapper. K-Pass did nothing except draw one holding penalty. DJ was spying McCown and twice let him scramble for a first on third down. Roches gets up and does a bunch of histrionics every time he makes a tackle. He should save his energy to stopping people on third down. Chiefs had ten sacks in the first four games, and eight sacks total in all the games since. Total Fail. Where was Justin Houston today? Nowhere. Simply Nowhere. 8. The Chiefs must have the worst defensive secondary in the league. Revis was made a Captain, then went out and missed several tackles and was sat down for Mitchell in the second half, who proceeded to go out and got roasted. Was Revis that much worse? In Andy's presser he said Revis played 39 snaps and that was enough for this week. Nelson was beat all day on third down slants and had two monster penalties in the fourth quarter. Nelson and Parker missed a tackle to allow a 50-yard pass play to Kearse. After Smith hits Hill for a 79 yard bomb in the third to tie the game, Mitchell gets beat on a bomb and Sorensen makes it worse by adding a roughing the passer penalty. Jets go down and hit a 47 yard field goal to take the lead back. Then there’s Peters. We’ll get to him in a minute. 7. You can blame Alex for this loss. You cannot blame Alex for this loss. I can prove it either way. Alex threw for 366 yards and four TDs, and was the leading rusher with a single 70 yard run. The play before that run he missed Hill by under throwing him, or Hill would have had three TDs today. After Alex’s run we have the ball first down on the Jets 16. Hunt runs for two yards. Alex takes a sack. Then Andy takes a time out, and Nagy calls a special play. The play was so special Alex got sacked again, and Buttkicker has to kick a 38 yard field goal. So we go up 17 to 14 instead of 21 to 14. Alex’s record when his team gives up 24 points or more is now 9-43. With all the defensive failure, Alex got the ball back on the 25 yard line with 2:16 and no timeouts. Even with hitting Hill for 50 yards on another under thrown pass, Chiefs get the ball down to the Jets 19 yard line with a minute left. Alex overthrows end zone. Then Hunt drops a pass. Then Smith throws into a double covered Robinson, and on 4th down, he forces the ball at Kelce where the pass was nowhere close. So when Alex is given the chance to tie or win the game. He failed. Again. On the TV shots of Alex on the sidelines in the second half, there was a lot of him sitting alone on the bench, head down, literally twiddling his fingers, looking like he was foreboding the defense being on the field and not stopping anything. Bad body language again this week. 6. Kelce spots the team a 14 point lead, and the team doesn’t even look at him until the final two minutes, where they throw him one pass, and throw the last desperation pass somewhat at him. Tyreek would have had an even better day if Alex wouldn’t have under or over thrown him on three or four plays. We basically got nothing from Wilson or Robinson. Today four TDs to the two main skill guys was not enough. Not getting anything from Kareem Hunt is killing this team. 5. Peters should be benched for the rest of the season, and certainly benched for the next game against the Raiders. Since he wants to be a Raider, that would hit him where it hurts. I’ll be shocked if the Chiefs staff does anything to Peters for his stupidity. This one is on Clark Hunt. Peters was not ejected, but he was escorted by Chiefs security off the field. Peters was smiling and laughing as he left; he threw his gloves into the stands, and took his socks off, until somebody had to run into the locker room and tell him he was still eligible. He walked back to the field and started having a conversation with somebody in the stands. After the game he left before the press was allowed into the locker room. Peters should be traded in the off season, and if we’re able to get a first or second round draft pick, pick another corner. Chiefs should use EVERY draft pick on defensive backs next year, or spend all their available free agent money on defensive backs. 4. Special teams have eroded to the point where Dave Taub should be looked at very critically at season end. We continue to run kickoffs out from seven yards deep; starting from inside the 20 on multiple occasions. We almost got a penalty on a fair catch. We had one nice punt return, but we also missed a field goal. That field goal would have been a big difference in the momentum of the first half. 3. Andy’s presser was the typical “I need to fix things. We were close, just couldn’t get it done, yap yap yap." Same as it ever was. Here’s a couple things on coaching: Not throwing to Kelce for most of the second half was stupid. On our third drive, Alex got flushed, and then we got a delay of game to kill the first quarter momentum. Jets got back into the game after that. Third Quarter, after the Jets took a 27-24 lead, Chiefs have a third and one and throw a “Tackle Eligible” Wile E.Coyote gimmick play to a double covered Irving. Meanwhile, Kareem Hunt on the other side is five yards past the marker uncovered, waving for the ball. In the fourth quarter, Chiefs burn a time out at the 11 minute mark because they couldn’t get lined up on defense. That time out would have been real handy in that last two minutes. At the end of the game Peters flips out, and I doubt if Andy will do anything about it, because he’s a “players coach.” Inmates are running the asylum. 2. This has been a complete and utter collapse, and the Chiefs will do their best to put lipstick on the pig the next few days. If the Raiders win their next game, we are no longer playoff eligible. Think about that. We had a three game lead on the entire division going into the Pittsburgh game. We’ve gone oh for New York State this season. That’s on Andy Reid. 1. Seriously thinking about putting the rest of my tickets up on NFL Exchange for the rest of the season. Can’t see freezing my ass off to watch this kind of football. I’ve seen this movie under Herm and Gunther and Romeo. This team has been hot garbage for six weeks and the ownership and coaching staff are in denial about it all. Until they figure it out -which won't be this year- nothing is going to get any better. And if by some miracle they do happen to win the AFC West -which is highly doubtful at this point- they’ll refuse to play Mahomie, unless Alex gets injured. Since Morse went out and Witzman is back in, that's entirely possible. Alex may decide to just sit out the final month in “protocol.” I may do the same. Last edited by gblowfish; 12-03-2017 at 05:11 PM..
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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $2024734	Excellent read as always George. My comment in the Chat during the first 2 drives was, "wow the Jets are bad." Nothing changed my mind during the rest of the game. And we still managed to not get it done. What an abysmal performance. RE: Smith v Mahomes. Smith played a decent game, but he missed a lot of reads and throws. Hill has excellent reaction to the ball because Smith underthrew EVERY SINGLE pass to Hill. I used to think Smith was still the answer, because as electric as Mahomes was in the preseason he missed the timing stuff pretty badly, and a few of the short throws sailed because of his feet. However, most of Smith's yards were on passes to dudes WIDE open in soft spots in the zone. Mahomes can do that. Simplify the gameplan and playcalls, get in his ear about what to look for and let's get this show on the road. I'm ready. The big thing is we know what McCown is. And yet, McCown outplayed Smith. I don't care what the stats are, none of McCowns guys were as open as Hill, Kelce et al. Scheme made Smith's plays. McCown made McCowns plays. He fit the ball into TIGHT windows. Smith just hit a few open guys. RE: Terrance Mitchell. I haven't ever seen a guy who's coverage looks good get so many passes completed on his head. He runs with receivers, keeps his position, gets his hands up and can't seem to keep the completion from happening. He's doing what a guy wants, he's making the completion difficult. But it always manages to squeak through. I've never seen anything like it. If Nelson, Peters, Parker, Gaines, whoever gets it completed on them, it's because they got burned. Mitchell seems to have good coverage. And it's been enough time to be statistically significant. I'd love to understand WTF is going on, but I can't. RE: Defense. Why the hell do we play in nickel and dime all the time? It obviously isn't stopping the pass game. Why the hell don't we focus on crushing the run and let our pass rushers rush? We can't cover shit either way.
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cooper barrett MVP Join Date: Aug 2017 Casino cash: $10000400	Great write up George. I didn't want to read it but I am glad I did. I posted a "who's head should roll" Poll and I intentionally left Peters off of it. I agree with you, sell him for someone who wants to play football. As bad as the D is we need him for the rest of the season just in case... I BET THE LEAGUE IS GOING TO MAKE THIS HURT THE TEAM MORE THAN HIM. Don't give up hope, you may still get to go to CA for a wild card game. IJS __________________
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nkd Starter Join Date: Jan 2017 Casino cash: $10000400	These defense so bad it would literally be demoralizing playing for this team. What was that 17 plays in the end zone? Unreal! If they didnt suck so bad and only allowed a field goal. Chiefs would have won this game. They had all the time outs, which they wasted due to their incompetence and lack of composure. They also helped burn the entire clock. Oh how about buttkicker makes that field goal. If butt kicker makes that field goal shit despite defense sucking so bad we still win this game likely. That defensive performance was just pure pathetic. Alex could have put up 37 points, including the missed filed goal and which would have allowed for another field goal had the defense only kept them at field goal attempt. Oh on the last drive the pass to Hill was thrown the way it was thrown. He was being covered deep. So Alex threw under to give him space. Had he thrown deep it would have a chance of being picked. Watch that play again please.
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