It’s Officially Patrick Mahomes Season in Kansas City

[Hammock Parties]

Great article with some funny lines.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/1...ex-smith-trade

The Patrick Mahomes era in Kansas City did not begin on Tuesday night, when the Chiefs agreed to trade incumbent starting quarterback Alex Smith to Washington for cornerback Kendall Fuller and a third-round pick. The Patrick Mahomes era in Kansas City began in August 2017, when the Chiefs played the Titans in a preseason game and this clip was filmed:



That’s Smith looking at Mahomes as if Mahomes had just walked away with the love of his life, feeling a pang of jealousy before being struck by a wave of disappointment upon realizing that the two are perfect for each other and will lead a fulfilling life together. Smith made that face after Mahomes unleashed this throw:



It was also after Mahomes made this throw:



And after Mahomes made this throw:



We’re cherry-picking from one half of a meaningless preseason game against the Titans in which most of Tennessee’s starters were not playing. That said, all of these throws came from one half of a single game. Mahomes can’t touch the field without creating a highlight reel that dunks on some quarterbacks’ career tapes.

Last April, the Chiefs made the trade that truly signed their future over to Mahomes. They gave the Bills two first-round picks and a third-round pick for the 10th pick in last year’s draft, which they used to select Mahomes. It was a weightier decision than they may have realized initially: The 11th pick in the 2017 draft was used on Marshon Lattimore, who emerged as one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL as a rookie with the Saints. The 12th pick was used on Deshaun Watson, who was on pace to smash a rookie quarterbacking record for the Texans before tearing his right ACL in November. Kansas City gave up a lot for the right to pass over prized talent in favor of Mahomes.

But that choice seemed justified, considering that up until last spring Smith’s decade-plus NFL career had been about as exciting as the sex life of a Galápagos tortoise. Then Smith recorded his best season ever. He led the league in passer rating, adjusted yards per attempt, and interception rate, while finishing third in completion percentage and sixth in touchdown percentage. Despite having a reputation as a noodle-armed checkdown artist incapable of completing passes more than 4 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, Smith led the NFL in passer rating on deep balls. He posted career highs in virtually every meaningful statistical category.

Smith was a consistently good quarterback for the Chiefs, never really having a bad year, with three Pro Bowl appearances and four trips to the playoffs in five seasons as the team’s starter. Kansas City ranked 31st and 32nd in scoring offense in the two years before Smith became the team’s quarterback; in the next five seasons, the Chiefs ranked in the top 10 in that stat three times and never finished in the bottom half of the league.

But there was a limit on the team’s ceiling with Smith. Kansas City went 1-4 in the postseason under his lead and never made it past the divisional round. This season ended with a disastrous 22-21 loss to the Titans in the wild-card round, a game in which the Chiefs blew an 18-point halftime lead.

When a team invests as much in a player as Kansas City did in Mahomes, it places a bet on which there’s no going back. Every day that Mahomes was not the starter represented a missed opportunity. Sure, Smith led the Chiefs to the playoffs, and even entered the MVP conversation during the first quarter of this season. But Smith’s touchdown bonanzas prevented the franchise from getting a read on whether Mahomes might bomb rather than throw beautiful bombs deep down the field. The deal Kansas City got for Smith was a coup: It should have been willing to hand over the keys to Mahomes regardless; instead, it did that while also acquiring an exciting young cornerback and a third-round pick.

Mahomes’s college statistics are ludicrous. He threw for 5,052 yards and 41 touchdowns as a junior, including 734 yards and five touchdowns against Oklahoma alone.

While it’s possible to be skeptical of Mahomes—he played for Texas Tech, a program whose pass-obsessed offense has produced plenty of ridiculous numbers, even for non-NFL-caliber quarterbacks—his efforts resulted in more than just empty stats. Mahomes wasn’t another player in the mold of Graham Harrell or Kliff Kingsbury, the two guys ahead of him on the Red Raiders’ all-time passing lists who combined to go 3-of-6 for 37 yards in the NFL. He was a legit first-round talent, with the arm strength to beat an entire fifth-grade class at laser tag while using footballs instead of lasers.

Here are three throws from Mahomes’s debut NFL start, a 27-24 win over the Broncos in Week 17. They rank somewhere between “great” and “sexually arousing.”

I really liked what I saw from Mahomes in his one game this year. Made some rookie mistakes, but his arm talent is everything they say it is. pic.twitter.com/uE7AQMl2Qp

— Nick Olson (@NicholasJOlson) January 31, 2018

Here is a fourth throw from that same game that ranks somewhere between “sexually arousing” and “impossible.”



Mahomes is excellent at keeping plays alive in the pocket and training his eyes downfield. Even if he’s in the process of getting tackled or being forced to throw on the run, he can deliver passes with enough power to hit receivers past the first-down marker, and enough touch to elude the outstretched arms of cornerbacks. Mahomes gets more zip on his passes when throwing off his back foot than Smith does when stepping into a throw. Head coach Andy Reid’s offense made Smith look like a superstar; Mahomes looks like a superstar even when everything is collapsing around him.

The Chiefs’ decision to turn the offense over to Mahomes is risky; after all, he’s yet to play in a meaningful professional game. But it’s less risky than building an NFL franchise around a soon-to-be 34-year-old who only just turned in the greatest season of his career. (Any time travelers reading this? If you have time to make a pit stop en route to killing Baby Hitler, go back to earlier this week and drop this paragraph off at FedExField. If that’s not possible, please focus on killing Baby Hitler.)

Mr. Smith has gone to Washington, and now it’s time for the Chiefs to embark on their future.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

That's why the playoff loss is on Andy.

He needed to pound it behind the center's butt more.

I know this is the thinking, but I don't agree.

The hoodie never takes his foot off the pedal.

Don't stop doing what got you the big lead until the game is completely out of reach.

Andy got conservative, even though he wasn't pounding the rock.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Sweet, delicious, and limp-dicked butthurt at six-o'clock:

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Snyder will probably welsh on the deal just like you and Tiggershit... But Snyder has ethics, so the chances of him pulling out is nill compared to Tigger and others, you know the guy. He's a Stuart Smalley protege, for sure.

PMll will be a work in progress but I am most excited to see the Chiefs make the commitment to him by moving Alex, Although I don't think you will hear the end of this trade as Alex, with Washington may flourish. I have to say it for him, he doesvehas the respect of everyone inside the NFL not many can say that.

That's not respect, nimrod. It's pity.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Bannish him. I’m banished from my family football get togethers. They are livid right now that we wasted a pick on Mahomes and traded the leagues QBR leader and MVP candidate.

Already wanting to trade both fuller and Peters, want to resign Hali, Ford and DJ to long term contracts. Feel we are a few better OL away from a championship.

I swear to god I am adopted.

Those values/takes represent everything that is wrong and HAS been wrong with the Chiefs and the fan base for 40+ years.
Stay strong, friend.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by milkman

I know this is the thinking, but I don't agree.

The hoodie never takes his foot off the pedal.

Don't stop doing what got you the big lead until the game is completely out of reach.

Andy got conservative, even though he wasn't pounding the rock.

I'm being facetious.

People are dumbasses.

Also I don't think Andy got conservative. There wasn't one screen called.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by milkman

It's not their age.
It's their football IQs.

2nd THIS

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by milkman

I know this is the thinking, but I don't agree.

The hoodie never takes his foot off the pedal.

Don't stop doing what got you the big lead until the game is completely out of reach.

Andy got conservative, even though he wasn't pounding the rock.

This is the single most frustrating thing about reid. Regardless of what is working make them stop it. I hate trying to "trick" nfl staffs. They all have coaches studying film constantly. You may pull a fast one now and then but you aren't going to beat nfl teams by fooling them. Make them adjust to you.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

All of us with dads in their 50's or 60's have this strange Alex Smith love. I've at least gotten mine to buy into Mahomes.

After the trade my dads first response was "Washington is looking dangerous now".

I couldn't even respond to that. I just left it alone.

I'm 61. I went to Mahomes's first career start in Denver for a reason. First Chiefs game I have seen in person in over 10 years probably.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm 61. I went to Mahomes's first career start in Denver for a reason. First Chiefs game I have seen in person in over 10 years probably.

Damn. What is it like thinking your mortal clock is ticking after Mahomes retires.

That boy is your last your hope.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm 61. I went to Mahomes's first career start in Denver for a reason. First Chiefs game I have seen in person in over 10 years probably.

God Bless You, Sir.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Damn. What is it like thinking your mortal clock is ticking after Mahomes retires.

That boy is your last your hope.

[big nasty kcnut]

my dad like alex smith so do i but i have faith that andy reid will coach up patrick.

[duncan_idaho]

The CHunt and his dad have done a great job convincing the Chiefs fan base the path to success is avoiding being terrible and winning in the playoffs with defense, the running game, and a QB who doesn't make mistakes.

The Chiefs lack of playoff success is due to "favoritism" and the NFL being rigged, not the Chiefs trying a high floor, low ceiling approach that typically comes up empty in the playoffs.

So glad that time is over.

These same people will throw a fit if the Chiefs take a small step back next year, but that's on their inability to see the long term value. If it requires a small step back in 18 to take three more forward in 19, it's more than worth it.

... but I think the O will be better. Pat Mahomes is going to shine with those weapons.


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[cooper barrett]

When they use the word rebuilding the county should take their parking revenues, **** rebuilding, buy some talent and get it done

[rabblerouser]

Bump

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Bump

There are hundreds of threads that could be bumped to "told you so" regarding the Mahomes > Alex debate, but ehhhhh... not really worth it to relive all of that drama.

That said.

Told you so Alex Smith ballwashers.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Pat Mahomes Stat Line for Next Year.... Book it

4,200 Yards
31 TD's
15 Int's
300 Yards Rushing
2 Rushing TD's

Dream bigger.

It's amazing that this was actually the most optimistic projection any Chiefs fan could reasonably imagine. And PMII blew it out of the water.