Chiefs With huge game vs. Oakland ahead, here’s why Chiefs’ Berry sat late against Seahawks - Page 4

T-post Tom · 12-26-2018, 07:15 PM

With a towel over his head, Eric Berry watched on from the sideline as third-year safety Jordan Lucas took over his spot and played alongside Daniel Sorensen for the Seahawks’ final possession of the Chiefs’ 38-31 loss Sunday.

In Berry’s absence, Seattle completed a couple of deep passes and scored one more time to push the game out of reach.

Down by only four points with four minutes to go when Berry came out, the Chiefs were without their best defensive player for the second week in a row during crucial moments late in the fourth quarter.

After sitting the second half against the Chargers — including during L.A.’s game-winning 2-point conversion — Berry exited Sunday’s game following Seattle’s penultimate drive with 7:31 to play.

“You’ve got to go off of his feeling,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “He hasn’t played in two years. I’m aware of that. I just, I don’t want to take any steps backward and neither does he. So we understand that. With the extended drives, snaps came out funny.

“He had every intention of going into the fourth quarter. It was just so many snaps he can take right now. He’s easing back into it. I have full trust in him. It’s not a matter. If he could’ve gone a half, we would’ve gone a half.”

Berry wound up playing in 69 of 80 defensive snaps Sunday — his highest since playing 70 in the 2017 season-opening win against the Patriots where he suffered the season-ending Achilles injury.

Berry didn’t have a hard cap to his snap limit, and Reid said the communication between the coaching staff and the safety was open throughout the game. It didn’t help that Seattle had possession the edge in time of possession 35:02 to the Chiefs’ 24:58.

“His numbers got up,” Reid said. “He was good right there. That was plenty. Again, just not taking anything back. And getting his legs back.

“There’s a lot to it. Not just that part of the injury, but getting his body back into playing.”

Though the Seahawks ran most plays away from Berry, the veteran had an undeniable influence on the game.

For rookie Charvarius Ward, Berry’s presence had a calming effect.

With Kendall Fuller out and Orlando Scandrick relegated to the sideline, the cornerback was making his first career start on the biggest of stages: Sunday Night Football. Primetime. A chance to clinch the No. 1 seed and home field advantage was on the line.

But for as anxious as he felt, Ward also felt like he was in good hands because Berry was playing with him.

“I was happy he was out there,” Ward said. “I wouldn’t have wanted to be out there if he wasn’t. He helped me out a lot. He’s a coach on the field. He knows all their plays, all their routes. He was telling me all the signals because I didn’t know all the signals and stuff. So he helped out a lot.”

Though Berry was missing from the final minutes of the game, Ward said he felt confident enough in the defensive call to play without Berry. In fact, Ward didn’t notice he was missing.

“I didn’t know he was out, to be honest,” Ward said. “I was focused in on my man. We were running a lot of man, so I was focused in on my man really.”

The Chiefs will wrap up the regular season Sunday afternoon against Oakland with a No. 1 seed and an AFC West title on the line for a third consecutive week. Berry’s limitations for that game aren’t yet known, but he was a full participant in Wednesday’s practice.

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O.city · 12-27-2018, 10:16 AM

Once you give him snaps off early, he's going to get cold and stiff and have to warm back up.

They've played the last couple games like preseason game 2 and game 3 for him.

It should be full on every snap now.

Ribbs67 · 12-27-2018, 10:33 AM

Don't get me wrong I like Andy..but damn it's frustrating watching him sit around and look like all he cares about is the offense..even if it's not the case. You can't tell me that public perception isn't just that. Haven't even brought in his obvious ( well documented clock mismanagement skills.) So much talent on this team.( On the offensive side) that I feel he tries to be too cute sometimes..and out coaches himself. Mahomes is best when he uses quick reads and gets the ball out quickly. Last half of the season, he has looked Shakey in the pocket.. indecisive. Sure he's made some amazing plays..he's going to do that. But he's at his best when the ball is out quickly. Andy rarely uses tempo anymore..unless we are down by 2 scores late. Instead Pat is back there running for his life, looking deep for a banged up Reek at 75%. "Fire Andy?" Maybe not...but tell me I'm wrong. His play calling isn't the greatest either in big drive situations...keep laughing...

**The Franchise** · 12-27-2018, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Once you give him snaps off early, he's going to get cold and stiff and have to warm back up.

They've played the last couple games like preseason game 2 and game 3 for him.

It should be full on every snap now.

He'd better play the full Raiders game.

Ribbs67 · 12-27-2018, 10:42 AM

And seriously...the old addage of well if EB takes snaps off he will get cold...is old and played out! Dude is a VERY well paid professional football player?. How in the hell do the special teams guys ever go out for a play and make it back to the sidelines without being carted off? It's a ridiculous argument. Really..if you want to be out there, stay warmed up like everyone else on the damn team does. Be there for your damn team. If he would have / could have made a play in either of those games and had a stop someway? Hell the whole damn team including Maholmes could have rested this last game! ( He's banged up also). Quit covering for the damn guy, that obviously has no heart or spirit that gives a damn!

I've always had his back up until these last few games and hearing his comments afterwards..just a bad look all around.

FlaChief58 · 12-27-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ribbs67

THIS!!! 1,000,000 times over. Stupid is as Stupid does! How on Earth can they not figure this out! There is no explanation for their incompetence...used to think it was Sutton's fault, but it's beyond that now. Reid is the HC of this sinking ship. If he can't sound the alarm and get it righted by stepping in and taking control..then he's to blame now. I used to think it was neat that he took Mahomes under his wing and spent so much time coaching him up when he came off the field. In reality he does it so he doesn't have to watch the Defense play either. Utter horseshit! If he refused to do anything..Fat Andy has to go as well with Sutton in the off-season. Simple as that..

This right here is why incest is illegal

Ribbs67 · 12-27-2018, 11:23 AM

Damn bro..u really know how to hurt a guy...lol

Ribbs67 · 12-27-2018, 11:32 AM

I don't want Andy fired..but I would like him to step up and do something about the defensive situation. If you can't or don't want to do anything about his good friend Bob Sutton..then at least manage situations better that he can control. That's all I was saying. He's the HC. This has fallen on him now unfortunately because his DC is failing him. Sutton has to go..and I hope he doesn't take this season and team down with him.

Ribbs67 · 12-27-2018, 11:43 AM

I'm tired of feeling the way I do about this team. I've become bipolar. Happy go lucky and giggling like a school girl watching the offense. Then while watching the defense..I have terrets..and cuss like a sailor. The rollercoaster ride is almost unbearable at times. I've said what I've felt like I needed to say. From now on I'm going to try and be more positive.. because this is truly ruining the game experience for me. I love this team, and when my team's lose, it affects me( like I think it does you guys all weekend sadly). Looking forward to this game this weekend.and I hope we win this one going away. Go Chiefs!

**BossChief** · 12-27-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pest

He'd better play the full Raiders game.

Depends on the score.

**ptlyon** · 12-27-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Depends on the score.

Yeah, if we're up 14 going into the last five minutes of the game, we should be fine.

ARROW2 · 12-27-2018, 12:10 PM

So much bitching and whining for the 1 seed for only the second time in chiefs history. Damn, enjoy the shit and this time we have a franchise qb.

**ptlyon** · 12-27-2018, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2

So much bitching and whining for the 1 seed for only the second time in chiefs history. Damn, enjoy the shit and this time we have a franchise qb.

I'm trying man. I'm trying real, Damn, hard.

**MahiMike** · 12-27-2018, 12:14 PM

**Bugeater** · 12-27-2018, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2

So much bitching and whining for the 1 seed for only the second time in chiefs history. Damn, enjoy the shit and this time we have a franchise qb.

3rd time. KC was 1 seed in both 95 & 97.

R Clark · 12-27-2018, 12:18 PM

They ain't 1 seed yet. 2 game skid hell ya panic is real

12-26-2018, 07:15 PM
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4347293	With huge game vs. Oakland ahead, here’s why Chiefs’ Berry sat late against Seahawks With a towel over his head, Eric Berry watched on from the sideline as third-year safety Jordan Lucas took over his spot and played alongside Daniel Sorensen for the Seahawks’ final possession of the Chiefs’ 38-31 loss Sunday. In Berry’s absence, Seattle completed a couple of deep passes and scored one more time to push the game out of reach. Down by only four points with four minutes to go when Berry came out, the Chiefs were without their best defensive player for the second week in a row during crucial moments late in the fourth quarter. After sitting the second half against the Chargers — including during L.A.’s game-winning 2-point conversion — Berry exited Sunday’s game following Seattle’s penultimate drive with 7:31 to play. “You’ve got to go off of his feeling,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “He hasn’t played in two years. I’m aware of that. I just, I don’t want to take any steps backward and neither does he. So we understand that. With the extended drives, snaps came out funny. “He had every intention of going into the fourth quarter. It was just so many snaps he can take right now. He’s easing back into it. I have full trust in him. It’s not a matter. If he could’ve gone a half, we would’ve gone a half.” Berry wound up playing in 69 of 80 defensive snaps Sunday — his highest since playing 70 in the 2017 season-opening win against the Patriots where he suffered the season-ending Achilles injury. Berry didn’t have a hard cap to his snap limit, and Reid said the communication between the coaching staff and the safety was open throughout the game. It didn’t help that Seattle had possession the edge in time of possession 35:02 to the Chiefs’ 24:58. “His numbers got up,” Reid said. “He was good right there. That was plenty. Again, just not taking anything back. And getting his legs back. “There’s a lot to it. Not just that part of the injury, but getting his body back into playing.” Though the Seahawks ran most plays away from Berry, the veteran had an undeniable influence on the game. For rookie Charvarius Ward, Berry’s presence had a calming effect. With Kendall Fuller out and Orlando Scandrick relegated to the sideline, the cornerback was making his first career start on the biggest of stages: Sunday Night Football. Primetime. A chance to clinch the No. 1 seed and home field advantage was on the line. But for as anxious as he felt, Ward also felt like he was in good hands because Berry was playing with him. “I was happy he was out there,” Ward said. “I wouldn’t have wanted to be out there if he wasn’t. He helped me out a lot. He’s a coach on the field. He knows all their plays, all their routes. He was telling me all the signals because I didn’t know all the signals and stuff. So he helped out a lot.” Though Berry was missing from the final minutes of the game, Ward said he felt confident enough in the defensive call to play without Berry. In fact, Ward didn’t notice he was missing. “I didn’t know he was out, to be honest,” Ward said. “I was focused in on my man. We were running a lot of man, so I was focused in on my man really.” The Chiefs will wrap up the regular season Sunday afternoon against Oakland with a No. 1 seed and an AFC West title on the line for a third consecutive week. Berry’s limitations for that game aren’t yet known, but he was a full participant in Wednesday’s practice. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article223582415.html
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12-27-2018, 10:16 AM	#46
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2414064	Once you give him snaps off early, he's going to get cold and stiff and have to warm back up. They've played the last couple games like preseason game 2 and game 3 for him. It should be full on every snap now.
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Ribbs67 Starter Join Date: Oct 2018 Casino cash: $10000400	Don't get me wrong I like Andy..but damn it's frustrating watching him sit around and look like all he cares about is the offense..even if it's not the case. You can't tell me that public perception isn't just that. Haven't even brought in his obvious ( well documented clock mismanagement skills.) So much talent on this team.( On the offensive side) that I feel he tries to be too cute sometimes..and out coaches himself. Mahomes is best when he uses quick reads and gets the ball out quickly. Last half of the season, he has looked Shakey in the pocket.. indecisive. Sure he's made some amazing plays..he's going to do that. But he's at his best when the ball is out quickly. Andy rarely uses tempo anymore..unless we are down by 2 scores late. Instead Pat is back there running for his life, looking deep for a banged up Reek at 75%. "Fire Andy?" Maybe not...but tell me I'm wrong. His play calling isn't the greatest either in big drive situations...keep laughing...
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12-27-2018, 10:42 AM	#49
Ribbs67 Starter Join Date: Oct 2018 Casino cash: $10000400	And seriously...the old addage of well if EB takes snaps off he will get cold...is old and played out! Dude is a VERY well paid professional football player?. How in the hell do the special teams guys ever go out for a play and make it back to the sidelines without being carted off? It's a ridiculous argument. Really..if you want to be out there, stay warmed up like everyone else on the damn team does. Be there for your damn team. If he would have / could have made a play in either of those games and had a stop someway? Hell the whole damn team including Maholmes could have rested this last game! ( He's banged up also). Quit covering for the damn guy, that obviously has no heart or spirit that gives a damn! I've always had his back up until these last few games and hearing his comments afterwards..just a bad look all around.
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Ribbs67 Starter Join Date: Oct 2018 Casino cash: $10000400	Damn bro..u really know how to hurt a guy...lol
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Ribbs67 Starter Join Date: Oct 2018 Casino cash: $10000400	I don't want Andy fired..but I would like him to step up and do something about the defensive situation. If you can't or don't want to do anything about his good friend Bob Sutton..then at least manage situations better that he can control. That's all I was saying. He's the HC. This has fallen on him now unfortunately because his DC is failing him. Sutton has to go..and I hope he doesn't take this season and team down with him.
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12-27-2018, 11:43 AM	#53
Ribbs67 Starter Join Date: Oct 2018 Casino cash: $10000400	I'm tired of feeling the way I do about this team. I've become bipolar. Happy go lucky and giggling like a school girl watching the offense. Then while watching the defense..I have terrets..and cuss like a sailor. The rollercoaster ride is almost unbearable at times. I've said what I've felt like I needed to say. From now on I'm going to try and be more positive.. because this is truly ruining the game experience for me. I love this team, and when my team's lose, it affects me( like I think it does you guys all weekend sadly). Looking forward to this game this weekend.and I hope we win this one going away. Go Chiefs!
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ARROW2 MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $9514329	So much bitching and whining for the 1 seed for only the second time in chiefs history. Damn, enjoy the shit and this time we have a franchise qb.
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