Royals Is it time for the Padres to consider benching Hosmer? - Page 4

Deberg_1990 · 04-17-2019, 11:53 AM

https://eastvillagetimes.com/2019/04...g-eric-hosmer/

With an excess of corner outfielders on the roster who are performing offensively, is it time for the San Diego Padres to consider benching first baseman Eric Hosmer?

After the first two weeks of the season, several position players for the San Diego Padres are off to a good start. However, Eric Hosmer is not one of those players.

At the time of his signing in 2018, Hosmer was the most notable acquisition in franchise history. He was given the most significant contract in franchise history, eight years and $144 million. He is currently in the second year of that contract and is earning $20 million.

It’s still early, but he has shown a lack of production that gave Padres fans fits last season. So far in 2019, he’s hitting .203/.271/.297. His strikeout rate is high (22.9 percent). His walk percentage is low (8.6 percent). He is hitting the ball on the ground half the time (50 percent groundball rate). His wRC+ is an abysmal 51.

Compare these numbers with four outfielders currently on the 25-man roster: Wil Myers, Franmil Reyes, Hunter Renfroe, and Manuel Margot. When Franchy Cordero returns from the injured list, he can be added to this discussion.

Margot is off to one of the best starts in his young career. He has played the past few games in the leadoff spot and is seizing the opportunity. He also is the best defender in the outfield. Myers is back to full health and is at an expected level of production.

Reyes has shown much more patience at the plate. He’s taking more pitches and is being more selective. His 11.3 percent walk rate is evidence of this. His batting average is still quite low, but BABIP has not been his friend so far (.171).

Renfroe has shown improvement in the outfield. Also, he has a 126 wRC+ and gives manager Andy Green a power option to pencil into the lineup.

The thing here is that these four players should be playing every day. Four outfielders and three outfield positions – the Padres have quite the predicament. Hosmer’s lack of production at first base makes it even worse.

Seeing how these four players are producing and Hosmer isn’t, the question should be asked at some point if things don’t change. Should the Padres bench Eric Hosmer?

Yes, he’s making $20 million and has the second biggest contract on the team. Yes, the team waited out a slow offseason to sign him to that contract. Yes, he was advertised as a player who offers “prestige value” and is the kind of veteran you want for clubhouse chemistry. Seeing how this young clubhouse has come together so quickly, you do have to ask if this would be possible without Hosmer’s leadership.

Hosmer is the biggest professional sports star in San Diego not named Manny Machado or Fernando Tatis, Jr. He was named All-Star Game MVP in 2016, a game that was played at Petco Park. Fans celebrated when he agreed to a contract with the Padres. That fanfare is beginning to fade. The numbers are falling well short of the hype. Also, this production, or lack thereof, does nothing to help the Padres win games. Winning games, after all, is the whole point of playing the sport.

Taking Hosmer out of the lineup, even if only temporarily, makes room for all four of those outfielders to get the playing time they deserve. Myers was the team’s first baseman before Hosmer was signed. Even after all the moving around he has done, he would move back to a position with which he has familiarity.

It’s only mid-April, and there is plenty of time for Hosmer to figure it out. He was given a free pass last season due to having to adjust to a new league. This season, seeing how he has started is leaving little room for optimism.

If this keeps up, Green may have to make a tough decision and keep one of his highest-paid players on the bench.

carlos3652 · 05-03-2019, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Wish the Royals had Wil Meyers.

Trade Retrospective: Royals trade Wil Myers to the Rays for James Shields & Wade Davis

In one of the most famous trades of the decade, one would be hard-pressed to find a similar lopsided trade with such surprising results.

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/20...ot-takes-wrong

Chiefspants · 05-03-2019, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652

Trade Retrospective: Royals trade Wil Myers to the Rays for James Shields & Wade Davis

In one of the most famous trades of the decade, one would be hard-pressed to find a similar lopsided trade with such surprising results.

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/20...ot-takes-wrong

“This trade may have been essential for the Royals winning the World Series, but it was still a bad trade.”

**Kyle DeLexus** · 05-04-2019, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by James Angleton

Do you drink?

Downtown:
The Whiskey House (Best Happy Hour in San Diego)
Fairweather (somewhat hidden bar overlooking Petco Park)
Rustic Root (rooftop place - food and drinks)
The Nolen (rooftop bar)
Barleymash (lively area. Nice snatch around)
Born & Raised (Little Italy area - about 5 minutes Uber ride from downtown)
Bottle Craft (Little Italy location - nice beer bar about 5 mins from downtown. Cool because the they have a great beer selection and the airplanes fly right overhead.)

Breweries:
Mission Brewery (about 2 minute walk from Petco Park

This looks like what happens when you ask an alcoholic for tips on things to do. San Diego is supposed to be this great place with all kinds of stuff to do and you literally just tell him the best places to drink in town?

**ChiTown** · 05-04-2019, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

“This trade may have been essential for the Royals winning the World Series, but it was still a bad trade.”

LOL - what?

Al Czervik · 05-04-2019, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

LOL - what?

No Shit....We won the ****ing World Series......It was a great trade.

Naptown Chief · 05-04-2019, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm going to San Diego in about five weeks. Staying in Gaslamp. Any tips on places to go/see?

Going alone? I was born and raised there, but moved to Annapolis at 17 (18 years ago). Haven't been been there in 16 years, so take my advice with a grain of salt...

Old Town Mexican Cafe. While you're there, if you're interested at all in this kind of thing, the Whaley house. Historical home that is supposedly "the most haunted home in America." Old Town was pretty cool when I was younger.

Balboa Park and the Space Museum.

Wild Animal Park > Zoo > Sea World.

Seaport Village.

IDK, I'm trying to remember but it's been sooooo long

Naptown Chief · 05-04-2019, 10:37 AM

As to bars, clubs, etc, I couldn't tell ya. I did my partying in Tijuana as a teen. Don't know that I'd do it now though.

There's a few reservations with casinos, or at least was.

I think right in the gaslight district is/was the spaghetti factory. Cool Italian restaurant

Prison Bitch · 05-04-2019, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Hosmer 129 PA, 5hr, 20rbi .261avg 98wRC+
Machado 129 PA, 5hr, 14rbi .235avg 94wRC+

Any thotz?^^^

dlphg9 · 05-04-2019, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Any thotz?^^^

Look at their WAR though. Hosmer -.1 and Machado is 1.1. Is that due to defense?

Also this

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mike-tro...rper-combined/

Mike Trout should have gotten $600 million. The Angels got a steal on this dude.

baitism · 05-04-2019, 12:15 PM

Hosmer was never a great fielder. I give a damn if he has gold gloves (which are a joke at 1B).

Prison Bitch · 05-04-2019, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

Look at their WAR though. Hosmer -.1 and Machado is 1.1. Is that due to defense?

Also this

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mike-tro...rper-combined/

Mike Trout should have gotten $600 million. The Angels got a steal on this dude.

There’s a ceiling you can pay any athlete, Lebron and Brady etc were always worth much more than they were paid. But

1. There is an injury risk factor. If player X is hurt you can’t have 60M on a bench
2. Jealousy factor.

04-17-2019, 11:53 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $334454	Is it time for the Padres to consider benching Hosmer? https://eastvillagetimes.com/2019/04...g-eric-hosmer/ With an excess of corner outfielders on the roster who are performing offensively, is it time for the San Diego Padres to consider benching first baseman Eric Hosmer? After the first two weeks of the season, several position players for the San Diego Padres are off to a good start. However, Eric Hosmer is not one of those players. At the time of his signing in 2018, Hosmer was the most notable acquisition in franchise history. He was given the most significant contract in franchise history, eight years and $144 million. He is currently in the second year of that contract and is earning $20 million. It’s still early, but he has shown a lack of production that gave Padres fans fits last season. So far in 2019, he’s hitting .203/.271/.297. His strikeout rate is high (22.9 percent). His walk percentage is low (8.6 percent). He is hitting the ball on the ground half the time (50 percent groundball rate). His wRC+ is an abysmal 51. Compare these numbers with four outfielders currently on the 25-man roster: Wil Myers, Franmil Reyes, Hunter Renfroe, and Manuel Margot. When Franchy Cordero returns from the injured list, he can be added to this discussion. Margot is off to one of the best starts in his young career. He has played the past few games in the leadoff spot and is seizing the opportunity. He also is the best defender in the outfield. Myers is back to full health and is at an expected level of production. Reyes has shown much more patience at the plate. He’s taking more pitches and is being more selective. His 11.3 percent walk rate is evidence of this. His batting average is still quite low, but BABIP has not been his friend so far (.171). Renfroe has shown improvement in the outfield. Also, he has a 126 wRC+ and gives manager Andy Green a power option to pencil into the lineup. The thing here is that these four players should be playing every day. Four outfielders and three outfield positions – the Padres have quite the predicament. Hosmer’s lack of production at first base makes it even worse. Seeing how these four players are producing and Hosmer isn’t, the question should be asked at some point if things don’t change. Should the Padres bench Eric Hosmer? Yes, he’s making $20 million and has the second biggest contract on the team. Yes, the team waited out a slow offseason to sign him to that contract. Yes, he was advertised as a player who offers “prestige value” and is the kind of veteran you want for clubhouse chemistry. Seeing how this young clubhouse has come together so quickly, you do have to ask if this would be possible without Hosmer’s leadership. Hosmer is the biggest professional sports star in San Diego not named Manny Machado or Fernando Tatis, Jr. He was named All-Star Game MVP in 2016, a game that was played at Petco Park. Fans celebrated when he agreed to a contract with the Padres. That fanfare is beginning to fade. The numbers are falling well short of the hype. Also, this production, or lack thereof, does nothing to help the Padres win games. Winning games, after all, is the whole point of playing the sport. Taking Hosmer out of the lineup, even if only temporarily, makes room for all four of those outfielders to get the playing time they deserve. Myers was the team’s first baseman before Hosmer was signed. Even after all the moving around he has done, he would move back to a position with which he has familiarity. It’s only mid-April, and there is plenty of time for Hosmer to figure it out. He was given a free pass last season due to having to adjust to a new league. This season, seeing how he has started is leaving little room for optimism. If this keeps up, Green may have to make a tough decision and keep one of his highest-paid players on the bench.
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05-04-2019, 10:37 AM	#52
Naptown Chief Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Annapolis, MD Casino cash: $10002400	As to bars, clubs, etc, I couldn't tell ya. I did my partying in Tijuana as a teen. Don't know that I'd do it now though. There's a few reservations with casinos, or at least was. I think right in the gaslight district is/was the spaghetti factory. Cool Italian restaurant
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05-04-2019, 12:15 PM	#55
baitism Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Casino cash: $3619551	Hosmer was never a great fielder. I give a damn if he has gold gloves (which are a joke at 1B).
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