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Old 01-12-2020, 11:10 AM  
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Browns hiring Kevin Stefanski as HC
In the most Browns move ever after his offense was complete and total AIDS yesterday...

EB back with the Chiefs another year.
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Old 01-12-2020, 12:53 PM   #46
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The real story here is the Browns look like they are all the way on the analytics train now. They're going to have a front office and coaching staff led by Ivy Leaguers.

That's exactly what's happened in baseball. A lot of MLB front offices are full of Ivy Leaguers and driven by analytics now.
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Old 01-12-2020, 01:29 PM   #47
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Browns, lol. Boring hire as always. They should have gone hard at the SF DC. That guy's looks and acts like a bad ass
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Old 01-12-2020, 01:29 PM   #48
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The real story here is the Browns look like they are all the way on the analytics train now. They're going to have a front office and coaching staff led by Ivy Leaguers.

That's exactly what's happened in baseball. A lot of MLB front offices are full of Ivy Leaguers and driven by analytics now.
I just don't think going all-in on analytics is going to work in football. There are too many subjective things that can throw off your analysis. Like the whole "win vs loss" snaps for offensive linemen. How do you know what's supposed to be there? Was the player doing what he was supposed to do? In baseball you can say, "Well, here was a shift, so the hitter hitting into the shift means ____ about his ability as a hitter..." but you can't quite do the same for OL. And that's just one position. Defense? How is a guy in nickel? Well, there are so many blended coverage concepts out there, how do you know it what the coverages were?

And there aren't 162 games in the NFL. There are 16. There is FAR less data at your disposal to develop a truly accurate picture of what you're trying to figure out. And it takes much longer to grow and develop in baseball. Progress is usually a gradual slope, and you can track for that. In football, one guy gets cut from Team X, goes to Team Y, and then winds up becoming a multi-year starter. That's a far more common occurrence in football than in baseball.

You can use analytics for some stuff. Vermeil did a lot of it-- maybe through basic stats, not analytics, but he was definitely a coach who championed that. Dorsey uses his SPARQ score stuff for scouting or whatever it is. It's useful, and to ignore it completely will probably set you behind other teams in adjustments from year to year. But I don't think Ivy League nerds will see as much success in football that they do in baseball.
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Old 01-12-2020, 06:20 PM   #50
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Old 01-13-2020, 04:54 PM   #52
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:43 PM   #55
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I don't think that's why he got hired. He was Depodesta's choice last year before his vote got blocked. I think he was still their #1 choice as the org is deadset on making analytics the #1, 2, and 3 priority. It's an interesting approach. But no doubt the micromanagement is a huge red flag. As if that worked so well for the Haslams in the past.
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Been doing alittle due diligence, and maybe I was a bit hasty about Stefanski. Not saying he's going to take them to the promised land, but he could get the offense turned toward the light. And his personality might be what Baker, and frankly, the rest of the team really need to get them settled down and squared up.

Wade Phillips is going to jump for joy with all the talent he's going to have at his disposal if he gets hired by the Browns.

But Stefanski is tripping if he believes that Haslam is going to honor that 5-year contract. He's got two years to show some kind of real improvement; if they aren't strong playoff candidates by the end of year two, he's toast. And most of that talented roster is gone.
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Cool, now who are they going to hire after next season is over
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Rumor has it that the owners stepped in and decided that Kitchens should be the Head Coach last time.

Also, they told Dorsey that they were changing the power structure now. The GM and HC would now both reporting to the President. Dorsey wasn't going through that again so he moved on.
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