Confidence in #11 ?

[Molitoth]

Just wanted to start this by saying I've been a big fan of Robinson as a Chief.

He is always available, a great blocker, and doing a hell of a lot of running while rarely seeing a target.

With the attention on Kelce and Hill, I've always thought that Drob could be balling out, but for some reason he hasn't been.

The last game I think we saw him drop 3 passes, two wide open for first downs.

Dropped passes are probably one of my biggest pet-peeves in this sport of football, and Drob royally had me pissed at my couch cushion.

I wonder if dropped passes are a common thing in Chiefs practice for Drob, and he doesn't have the confidence from Pat this season?

Anyway, still rooting for some big Drob moments this post-season.

Any comments/discussion on this topic?

[Megatron96]

Every one can have a bad game. And honestly, two of those drops were the result of a couple badly placed passes. I don't think it'll happen again this Sunday.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if DRob gets targeted a few times early in the game, to get his confidence up.

But I think this game is going to feature a healthy dose of Watkins. In the last meeting, Hill grabbed 11 passes for over 100 yards and a TD. He was doing a lot of stuff from the slot, IIRC, and they were getting gashed. I doubt they let that happen again. And of course, they'll double Kelce; they have no choice about that. So it seems likely that Watkins is going to see more than 5-6 balls tomorrow.

[Wilson8]

The question might be, has Patrick Mahomes lost any faith in Demarcus Robinson. In the 4 passes thrown to him, Robinson caught 1, 1 was kind of behind him (still catchable), and 2 were good passes in his hands and he dropped.

The good news, if Robinson still has drops, we have many other options.

Demarcus will get a decent contract offer from another NFL team and moves on.

Mecole Hardman will move into Robinson's role and Pringle will return kickoffs next season.

[YontsRBake]

I like Pringle better as a long term option than both him and Watkins, but I think he’ll do fine at what he’s asked to do for the rest of these ‘offs

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I think this game is going to feature a healthy dose of Watkins. In the last meeting, Hill grabbed 11 passes for over 100 yards and a TD. He was doing a lot of stuff from the slot, IIRC, and they were getting gashed. I doubt they let that happen again. And of course, they'll double Kelce; they have no choice about that. So it seems likely that Watkins is going to see more than 5-6 balls tomorrow.

They will double both Tyreek and Kelce. It's up to the other guys to make some plays. Patrick's legs could be a sneaky X-Factor in this game. He was essentially on 1 leg in that first matchup

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Every one can have a bad game. And honestly, two of those drops were the result of a couple badly placed passes. I don't think it'll happen again this Sunday.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if DRob gets targeted a few times early in the game, to get his confidence up.

But I think this game is going to feature a healthy dose of Watkins. In the last meeting, Hill grabbed 11 passes for over 100 yards and a TD. He was doing a lot of stuff from the slot, IIRC, and they were getting gashed. I doubt they let that happen again. And of course, they'll double Kelce; they have no choice about that. So it seems likely that Watkins is going to see more than 5-6 balls tomorrow.

I hate this line of thinking. These guys are so good at what they do that they get paid hundreds of thousands to several million a year just to produce for 5 or 6 minutes a week for 16 weeks. Even with all this skill people still make up excuses for dropped passes because the ball was just a little off target. Drops are mostly a mental issue and are the result of broken concentration, like when they don't wanna take a big hit, when they are already thinking about yards after the catch before they even have possession of the ball, or when they just have their heads up their asses. Why does the QB have to be cometely perfect with his ball placement? If the ball hits a receiver in the hands and the receiver isn't making some absurd diving/jumping play, then they should catch it everytime.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

I suppose he serves a role as a 5th or 6th receiving option on this team.

That said, he needs to not have another shit week like last week if some passes do come his way, otherwise gonna have to change his name from DRob to DRop.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DRM08

They will double both Tyreek and Kelce. It's up to the other guys to make some plays. Patrick's legs could be a sneaky X-Factor in this game. He was essentially on 1 leg in that first matchup

Oh, I think if TEN plays man a lot, we'll see Pat take off several times; it's just cherry-picking easy 1st downs for him. And it'll drive their DC nuts trying to figure out how to deal with it. Play zone? Okay, Pat's the best QB in the league 2 years running against the zone. Make Pat's day.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

I hate this line of thinking. These guys are so good at what they do that they get paid hundreds of thousands to several million a year just to produce for 5 or 6 minutes a week for 16 weeks. Even with all this skill people still make up excuses for dropped passes because the ball was just a little off target. Drops are mostly a mental issue and are the result of broken concentration, like when they don't wanna take a big hit, when they are already thinking about yards after the catch before they even have possession of the ball, or when they just have their heads up their asses. Why does the QB have to be cometely perfect with his ball placement? If the ball hits a receiver in the hands and the receiver isn't making some absurd diving/jumping play, then they should catch it everytime.

One of those passes was behind Drob's head, IIRC. Pat threw as he was being dragged down, and his body was rotating away from the LoS at release. That ball was high and fluttery and well behind DRob. You can probably count on one hand the number of WRs in the league that catch that ball. Probably all of those are going to the HOF.

Just sayin'.

DRob isn't elite. Not saying he shouldn't have caught at least one of those passes, but let's be real, he ain't Jerry Rice. Put a ball in a pretty awkward spot, and he's less likely to catch it.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

I hate this line of thinking. These guys are so good at what they do that they get paid hundreds of thousands to several million a year just to produce for 5 or 6 minutes a week for 16 weeks. Even with all this skill people still make up excuses for dropped passes because the ball was just a little off target. Drops are mostly a mental issue and are the result of broken concentration, like when they don't wanna take a big hit, when they are already thinking about yards after the catch before they even have possession of the ball, or when they just have their heads up their asses. Why does the QB have to be cometely perfect with his ball placement? If the ball hits a receiver in the hands and the receiver isn't making some absurd diving/jumping play, then they should catch it everytime.

None of his drops last week should be blamed on Mahomes. If D-Rob is capable of making that insane catch against the Ravens early in the season, then the drops against Houston last week are inexcusable. He clearly has the talent to make a play on the ball, and none of his drops this past weekend were on what I would call "hard" catches. That Ravens catch was hard and he nailed that one.

[FloridaMan88]

Time to move on from DRob, he's completely useless.

When he's not dropping passes that are perfectly thrown, he is holding the ball out with one hand, just asking for a fumble.

I have more confidence in Pringle or even Dieter at this point.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Time to move on from DRob, he's completely useless.

When he's not dropping passes that are perfectly thrown, he is holding the ball out with one hand, just asking for a fumble.

I have more confidence in Pringle or even Dieter at this point.

Hmm, i haven't been paying much attention to DRob lately. Just how many fumbles does he have over the last two years?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Hmm, i haven't been paying much attention to DRob lately. Just how many fumbles does he have over the last two years?

He has none, but he holds the ball out loosely with one hand just asking for a fumble.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

He has none, but he holds the ball out loosely with one hand just asking for a fumble.

So just to be clear: in two seasons with 54 grabs for 13.5 yards/catch and 8 TDs he hasn't had a single fumble? holding the ball out like that? How do you explain that?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

So just to be clear: in two seasons with 54 grabs for 13.5 yards/catch and 8 TDs he hasn't had a single fumble? holding the ball out like that? How do you explain that?

If you want to argue that he should continue to not secure the ball because it hasn't resulted in a fumble yet, go for it.

The bigger issue is three terrible dropped passes last week when he was wide open.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

If you want to argue that he should continue to not secure the ball because it hasn't resulted in a fumble yet, go for it.

The bigger issue is three terrible dropped passes last week when he was wide open.

Not arguing; I'm asking for facts. Data to support a theory. Your theory.