Chiefs **** The Star - Page 4

comochiefsfan · 02-03-2021, 02:25 PM

Worthless trash rag. Thought i'd see more of this garbage this week, but in reality the only story i've seen regarding name and imagery is from KC's own local newspaper.

Never seen a local paper hate a team they cover more than the Star hates the Chiefs.

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/e...248955689.html

"Like most Kansas Citians, we wish the best of luck Sunday to the Chiefs, who will compete in their second straight Super Bowl.

The team won last year. We like their chances this year.

Millions of casual football fans will watch the game. Some of those viewers will be perplexed, perhaps even frustrated, by the team’s continued use of Native American imagery — the name, the arrowhead on the helmet, the troubling tomahawk chop and the crude chant that goes with it.

These gestures, and others like them, are clearly and appropriately endangered. Since the Chiefs last won the Super Bowl, the Washington Football Team dropped its offensive nickname, after resisting a change for decades.

Last December, the Cleveland Indians, a major league baseball team, announced plans for a new name.

Less than two weeks ago, the Shawnee Mission School District decided inappropriate mascot names will be prohibited. Students at Shawnee Mission North and a handful of other schools will soon cheer for their teams in a different way.

“It feels historic to me,” one school board member said, and she’s right. It also feels long overdue.

The Chiefs might have joined this list. To their credit, the team made minor changes this season, and continued their dialogue with Native American groups and other interested parties about the use of imagery. But the Chiefs did not even take the important interim step of banning the offensive chop, or reconsider the team’s name.

Kansas Citians are well aware of this controversy. Most have taken positions on the name, for it or against it. We’ve implored the team several times to consider how history will judge its continued use of the imagery, and asked leadership to think again. They haven’t taken that advice.

But the Super Bowl will put the Chiefs’ decisions front and center, for tens of millions of football fans. For those fans, a message: Many Kansas Citians will cringe along with you when spectators do the chop.

We embrace the team’s on-field success, but don’t think a corrosive chant has much to do with it.

It isn’t fair to ask groups offended by these symbols to wait even longer for change.

Some day, the Chiefs will change their name. It’s inevitable. That day may be 20 years from now, or next week. But it will happen, and the team — and our region — will be better for it."

KCUnited · 02-03-2021, 03:50 PM

If the Chiefs were a Black QB, they would’ve been out of a job a long time ago

BWillie · 02-03-2021, 03:53 PM

Does the Kansas City Star understand they are appropriating in the use of their name?

"Kansas" was named for the Kansa Indians or known as "the people of the south wind". So Kansas was named after Native Americans as a tribute to them. Not only is the state name racist, the Kansas City Star is as well since it is in their name. I demand that it be changed to the City Star immediately.

KChiefs1 · 02-03-2021, 03:55 PM

You know how many cities around the USA are named for Native American tribes?

KChiefs1 · 02-03-2021, 03:56 PM

I guess I don’t understand how something went from honoring something to it now being a derogatory term?

Gary Cooper · 02-03-2021, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie

Does the Kansas City Star understand they are appropriating in the use of their name?

"Kansas" was named for the Kansa Indians or known as "the people of the south wind". So Kansas was named after Native Americans as a tribute to them. Not only is the state name racist, the Kansas City Star is as well since it is in their name. I demand that it be changed to the City Star immediately.

And Jackson County is named after a slave owner.

So is Washington D.C.

joethomas · 02-03-2021, 03:57 PM

Yes, how do they want us to rename the city? You can't call it "the large city spanning western Missouri and Eastern Kansas" since mentioning anything related to native peoples or languages in a name is racist and therefore the names of both states are racist

Mecca · 02-03-2021, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I guess I don’t understand how something went from honoring something to it now being a derogatory term?

We went from a super harsh society about 20-25 years ago to now we've over corrected so everyone is super sensitive.

There are tons of things that play into this but we've grown much softer as a society in general.

ChiefBlueCFC · 02-03-2021, 04:05 PM

KC Star and Adam Teicher love trying to continuously shit on the Chiefs

**SuperChief** · 02-03-2021, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

I guess I don’t understand how something went from honoring something to it now being a derogatory term?

This is probably the best point made thus far.

I'm Native. I'm also a die-hard Chiefs fan. I don't know how to feel about all this. I think the obvious problems are obvious - the chant, the chop, the costumes, etc. I think it's also fair that there are ways to honor the Native aspects of the team's history, but doing them in a culturally appropriated way seems dumb.

It's not as black and white as people want to make the issue seem. Lots of grey. What some call "cancel culture," I'd call "consequences." You probably don't like hearing that. Opinions are what they are.

BWillie · 02-03-2021, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

You know how many cities around the USA are named for Native American tribes?

All racist and should be changed, IMMEDIATELY!

Hoover · 02-03-2021, 04:18 PM

I ****ing hate English majors...

**alanm** · 02-03-2021, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn

"By the Kansas City Star Editorial Board"

No one wanted to put their name on that garbage.

Was hoping we could sic Clay on someone. But they were smart enough not to put their name to this piece of shit commentary.

**alanm** · 02-03-2021, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

You know how many cities around the USA are named for Native American tribes?

Omaha for one.

**alanm** · 02-03-2021, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

We went from a super harsh society about 20-25 years ago to now we've over corrected so everyone is super sensitive.

There are tons of things that play into this but we've grown much softer as a society in general.

I'm just waiting for the Chinese to invade and put us out of our misery.

mr. tegu · 02-03-2021, 04:43 PM

The old “right side of history argument.” Can’t they come up with an actual good reason? No? Well that would explain why nothing needs to change. I also like how they equate changing the name to being a minor “interim” step. Pure insanity.

02-03-2021, 02:25 PM
comochiefsfan MVP Join Date: Dec 2018 Casino cash: $2030400	**** The Star Worthless trash rag. Thought i'd see more of this garbage this week, but in reality the only story i've seen regarding name and imagery is from KC's own local newspaper. Never seen a local paper hate a team they cover more than the Star hates the Chiefs. https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/e...248955689.html "Like most Kansas Citians, we wish the best of luck Sunday to the Chiefs, who will compete in their second straight Super Bowl. The team won last year. We like their chances this year. Millions of casual football fans will watch the game. Some of those viewers will be perplexed, perhaps even frustrated, by the team’s continued use of Native American imagery — the name, the arrowhead on the helmet, the troubling tomahawk chop and the crude chant that goes with it. These gestures, and others like them, are clearly and appropriately endangered. Since the Chiefs last won the Super Bowl, the Washington Football Team dropped its offensive nickname, after resisting a change for decades. Last December, the Cleveland Indians, a major league baseball team, announced plans for a new name. Less than two weeks ago, the Shawnee Mission School District decided inappropriate mascot names will be prohibited. Students at Shawnee Mission North and a handful of other schools will soon cheer for their teams in a different way. “It feels historic to me,” one school board member said, and she’s right. It also feels long overdue. The Chiefs might have joined this list. To their credit, the team made minor changes this season, and continued their dialogue with Native American groups and other interested parties about the use of imagery. But the Chiefs did not even take the important interim step of banning the offensive chop, or reconsider the team’s name. Kansas Citians are well aware of this controversy. Most have taken positions on the name, for it or against it. We’ve implored the team several times to consider how history will judge its continued use of the imagery, and asked leadership to think again. They haven’t taken that advice. But the Super Bowl will put the Chiefs’ decisions front and center, for tens of millions of football fans. For those fans, a message: Many Kansas Citians will cringe along with you when spectators do the chop. We embrace the team’s on-field success, but don’t think a corrosive chant has much to do with it. It isn’t fair to ask groups offended by these symbols to wait even longer for change. Some day, the Chiefs will change their name. It’s inevitable. That day may be 20 years from now, or next week. But it will happen, and the team — and our region — will be better for it."
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02-03-2021, 04:43 PM	#60
mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $1491300	The old “right side of history argument.” Can’t they come up with an actual good reason? No? Well that would explain why nothing needs to change. I also like how they equate changing the name to being a minor “interim” step. Pure insanity.
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