Chiefs Do Bills fans really have hope? - Page 4

Wallcrawler · 01-25-2022, 03:07 PM

I mean, come on.

Buffalo had the number 1 defense virtually across the board.

This was the "Patrick Mahomes is broken" season. This was it. This was your big chance.

Their peak and valley quarterback strung together back to back games of his life. Are we going to see that consistently? The odds are we won't.

The Chiefs secondary lost its best player on the opening series, and were the keystone cops the rest of the way.

Still couldn't get it done.

If I were a Bills fan right now, I don't think I like the prospect of what I'm facing going forward. You not only have to match what you did, but be better? Keeping in mind if Butker just makes his kicks you probably just lose outright without all the heroics needed.

Their only hope is that Patrick Mahomes takes a year off to go invent a longer lasting light bulb or something.

tredadda · 01-25-2022, 03:59 PM

Buffalo will be alright. They are still a great team that is loaded. The belief that Allen is still an inaccurate passer that can't read a defense needs to be put to rest. He has grown by leaps and bounds from when he was a rookie. That bomb he threw to Davis was perfect. The Allen of previous years overthrows that ball. If Buffalo's pass rushers develop they will constantly compete for the AFC with KC. The key though will be keeping Allen healthy as those designed runs will catch up with him in time.

DRM08 · 01-25-2022, 04:00 PM

They have plenty of hope. Allen is pretty awesome. Their front office seems to be doing a very good job when it comes to acquiring effective players. McDermott is a very good coach. The one thing they probably need to keep in mind is the career of Cam Newton. They should cut back on those designed runs into traffic for Allen, or his career will not run as long as they hope.

Cam Newton looked pretty unstoppable until the injuries started happening. Allen has Newton's body/athleticism, but Allen is a much better passer. Take advantage of his passing ability and keep him away from the injuries by not calling so many designed runs for him. Get him to slide or go out of bounds as often as possible when he decides to run during a broken play.

PunkinDrublic · 01-25-2022, 04:01 PM

Yes but it’s slim. The Chiefs draft better and make better moves in free agency. Buffalo has finally gotten good after years of sucking resulting in high picks.

RaidersOftheCellar · 01-25-2022, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kcclone

The AFC is loaded with good, young QB’s.

Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, Lamar….

I hope Wilson and Rogers stay in the NFC at least.

Imagine if Watson stays in the AFC. The playoffs will be out of control.

ToxSocks · 01-25-2022, 04:07 PM

Brady didn't win every SB and neither will Mahomes. Every 4th SB or so the Bills, Bengals or anyone else with a legit QB can duke it out to see who'll get in. Then we'll take it back for a few more years, and in about 8 years they can duke it out all over again.

Mahomes will have about 8 SB wins, and Allen and the Bills will sneak in one or two when its all said and done.

DRM08 · 01-25-2022, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Honestly, Tre White not suiting up on the other side may have been the difference in that game.

At least they did not lose him during the game like Tyrann Mathieu. Buffalo had time to prepare for the loss of White. KC's secondary had blown coverages all over the place deep down the field. KC only had one really good safety and he was gone early in this game. At least Buffalo had 2 All-Pro safeties back in Cover 2 protecting the deep shots for 90% of the snaps.

InChiefsHeaven · 01-25-2022, 04:11 PM

You have to have a great QB...that's what we all have been saying since before Mahomes. Well...they have one. They are perennial contenders as long as old boy is healthy. The only thing I'd worry about is his running and how he welcomes contact...could be a problem in a couple of years. But for now...hell yeah, I'd have a ton of hope if I was a Bills fan.

Chiefspants · 01-25-2022, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

At least they did not lose him during the game like Tyrann Mathieu. Buffalo had time to prepare for the loss of White. KC's secondary had blown coverages all over the place deep down the field. KC only had one really good safety and he was gone early in this game. At least Buffalo had 2 All-Pro safeties back in Cover 2 protecting the deep shots for 90% of the snaps.

No doubt. Tre can cover Hill in a way few singular defenders can -- but Tyrann getting injured devastated our secondary in a major way and it's fair to wonder if Allen has as dominant of a 4th quarter with him in the game.

If I could give up 2021 Tyrann in exchange for White being off the field, however? I'd probably do that 10/10 times, meaning no insult to Tyrann - Tre White is just that good and Tyrann has had a rough few weeks to end the year.

Coochie liquor · 01-25-2022, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

32nd ranked schedule and went 11-6.

Bet they miss the playoffs next year.

You think the Pats will win the division? I think the Bills have some of the components neede to stay relevant. Top tier quarterback, some good defensive players, good weapons. They have a few areas to attempt to upgrade, but they’re far from done. I’m not saying KC doesn’t win still, but let’s face it... the game would have been a little different if they had White playing. Myself, I’m wondering if McD is the coach to get them over the hump. They’re likely to lose Daboll, and possibly Frazier. Might lose Ken Dorsey if Daboll gets a job too, but he may decide to stay with Buffalo as OC. I think he’ll be a decent replacement for Daboll if that situation happens. Imagine Frazier leaves and the hire either Wink, or Fangio to run their D. I’d say either of those guys would be an upgrade from Frazier. If McD can grow as a coach, and learn to play KC without the fear and mental mistakes he showed at the end of the game then I’d say they have a good shot. If he can’t adapt any further then maybe they need to move on from him and find someone to put them over the top. I still think they have a bright future. But chances are they’re gonna have to beat Mahomes/Reid in the playoffs if they want to make the SB.

RINGLEADER · 01-25-2022, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

I think any honest KC fan will admit that the gap between the Chiefs and the rest of the AFC feels a lot narrower than at this time last year. Which is why they need to seal the deal and get another trophy this year. It's not going to get any easier as teams continue to build around Allen, Burrow, Herbert, etc.

There are a handful of teams with the QB power to compete with KC. Still believe if the Chiefs play their “A” game it will beat anyone else’s “A” game but if you look at 2021 we ended up losing to all of the teams in the playoffs except the Steelers and Raiders and where are we? At Arrowhead for the Conference Championship game. We literally took the league’s best shot and STILL came out on top. Why would next year be any different?

Rainbarrel · 01-25-2022, 05:01 PM

These things usually go in threes. Fangio fired, Roethlisberger retired, ______.

RedinTexas · 01-25-2022, 05:16 PM

The current Bills remind me of the Oilers in the late 70s. The Oilers lost to the Steelers in the AFC championship game (not a close game) and put their focus into beating the Steelers. The next year, the Oilers were better and again met the Steelers in the AFC championship game (pretty close game.) They vowed that they would be back. Bum Phillips promised that the next year they were going to kick the "sum bitch in." With all their focus on the Steelers, they got beat by the Raiders early in the playoffs and they were never the same again. You can't put all of your focus on the one team you think you have to beat.

Frazod · 01-25-2022, 05:21 PM

The Bills are a Josh Allen injury away from being the 2018 Jaguars.

Red Dawg · 01-25-2022, 05:29 PM

Allen has to be more consistent. He just played the greatest 2 games he will ever play. He was up and down all year. He's being loved more than he should.

Wallcrawler · 01-25-2022, 06:09 PM

The guy is just a few weeks removed from putting up a 17 qbr against the falcons. He got on a hot streak, let's see how he looks next season. The guy rarely put 2 games together in a row this year. Way up, huge drop-off.

The were also beaten in every single contest that came down to one score. It's easy to boat race and beat up bad teams. But when you have to find a way to close out against similar competition and you lose them ALL, I'm not sure I'm sold on McDerpit being this amazing coach.

Moreover, making the kind of mistakes they made late, big coaching questions.

Not squib/kicking short to run some of the 13 seconds (assuming you'd won the game at that point)

Playing the sidelines against an offense with 3 timeouts?

Letting 15 get a look at your defense, calling a timeout, and lining up exactly the same way again?

Definitely earned the derp in McDerpit.

01-25-2022, 03:07 PM
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $2212912	Do Bills fans really have hope? I mean, come on. Buffalo had the number 1 defense virtually across the board. This was the "Patrick Mahomes is broken" season. This was it. This was your big chance. Their peak and valley quarterback strung together back to back games of his life. Are we going to see that consistently? The odds are we won't. The Chiefs secondary lost its best player on the opening series, and were the keystone cops the rest of the way. Still couldn't get it done. If I were a Bills fan right now, I don't think I like the prospect of what I'm facing going forward. You not only have to match what you did, but be better? Keeping in mind if Butker just makes his kicks you probably just lose outright without all the heroics needed. Their only hope is that Patrick Mahomes takes a year off to go invent a longer lasting light bulb or something.
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01-25-2022, 03:59 PM	#46
tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $-1794947	Buffalo will be alright. They are still a great team that is loaded. The belief that Allen is still an inaccurate passer that can't read a defense needs to be put to rest. He has grown by leaps and bounds from when he was a rookie. That bomb he threw to Davis was perfect. The Allen of previous years overthrows that ball. If Buffalo's pass rushers develop they will constantly compete for the AFC with KC. The key though will be keeping Allen healthy as those designed runs will catch up with him in time.
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01-25-2022, 04:00 PM	#47
DRM08 In Search of a Life Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Texas Casino cash: $-959600	They have plenty of hope. Allen is pretty awesome. Their front office seems to be doing a very good job when it comes to acquiring effective players. McDermott is a very good coach. The one thing they probably need to keep in mind is the career of Cam Newton. They should cut back on those designed runs into traffic for Allen, or his career will not run as long as they hope. Cam Newton looked pretty unstoppable until the injuries started happening. Allen has Newton's body/athleticism, but Allen is a much better passer. Take advantage of his passing ability and keep him away from the injuries by not calling so many designed runs for him. Get him to slide or go out of bounds as often as possible when he decides to run during a broken play.
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PunkinDrublic Stay down bitch! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Plano, TX Casino cash: $4440670	Yes but it’s slim. The Chiefs draft better and make better moves in free agency. Buffalo has finally gotten good after years of sucking resulting in high picks. __________________ Disappointing my parents since 1976
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ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2123063	Brady didn't win every SB and neither will Mahomes. Every 4th SB or so the Bills, Bengals or anyone else with a legit QB can duke it out to see who'll get in. Then we'll take it back for a few more years, and in about 8 years they can duke it out all over again. Mahomes will have about 8 SB wins, and Allen and the Bills will sneak in one or two when its all said and done. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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01-25-2022, 04:11 PM	#52
InChiefsHeaven Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $755437	You have to have a great QB...that's what we all have been saying since before Mahomes. Well...they have one. They are perennial contenders as long as old boy is healthy. The only thing I'd worry about is his running and how he welcomes contact...could be a problem in a couple of years. But for now...hell yeah, I'd have a ton of hope if I was a Bills fan. __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! Holy Crap fellas!!! We did it!!! THREE TIMES!!!
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01-25-2022, 05:16 PM	#57
RedinTexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Texas Casino cash: $-250000	The current Bills remind me of the Oilers in the late 70s. The Oilers lost to the Steelers in the AFC championship game (not a close game) and put their focus into beating the Steelers. The next year, the Oilers were better and again met the Steelers in the AFC championship game (pretty close game.) They vowed that they would be back. Bum Phillips promised that the next year they were going to kick the "sum bitch in." With all their focus on the Steelers, they got beat by the Raiders early in the playoffs and they were never the same again. You can't put all of your focus on the one team you think you have to beat.
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01-25-2022, 05:21 PM	#58
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-586615	The Bills are a Josh Allen injury away from being the 2018 Jaguars.
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01-25-2022, 05:29 PM	#59
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1432858	Allen has to be more consistent. He just played the greatest 2 games he will ever play. He was up and down all year. He's being loved more than he should. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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