Kia Nero EV EX - Anyone here have one yet?

[Mephistopheles Janx]

I'm not fond of Kia. Up until recently I have heard nothing but a series of horror stories about this brand. I vowed long ago to never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever buy a Kia.

THAT SAID

I am in need of a vehicle and I may as well get an electric one because I pay .097 per kwh for electricity and I like the sound of traveling 230 miles for $8. All my research has lead me to...



While I would *NEVER* pay $40k for a Kia... they do have an offer where I can lease this vehicle for 36 months at $270 a month w/15k per year mile allowance. Between the monthly payments, fuel costs, and insurance we are essentially breaking even.

Most everyone I know that has purchased a Kia in the last 3-4 years has been really happy with them. It seems like Hyundai took renewed interest in their "off brand" label and decided to pump out some decent vehicles as of late.

Anyone here have one yet?

/why a lease? Because this is my first ev and this is the first ev Kia has made. Looking before leaping.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by rtmike

This whole ev push is a joke, lol.



95% of households don't have sufficient wiring to charge one overnight.

Portable or out in the boonies chargers are powered by diesel generators.

Oh, and let's keep punching damns in the nw, lol.

Windmills have 20 yeaar expectations, non recyclable.

Entire w m farms power a town of 1300-1500. That's what the Vesta techs told me, lol.

Maintenance is high $$, crane rental boys, lol. And they look like shit all over out here.



There needs to be a balance yes, but I don't get it, lol.

I'd respond to this, but there's so much wrong with it I don't know where to start.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by rtmike

This whole ev push is a joke, lol.

95% of households don't have sufficient wiring to charge one overnight.
Portable or out in the boonies chargers are powered by diesel generators.
Oh, and let's keep punching damns in the nw, lol.
Windmills have 20 yeaar expectations, non recyclable.
Entire w m farms power a town of 1300-1500. That's what the Vesta techs told me, lol.
Maintenance is high $$, crane rental boys, lol. And they look like shit all over out here.

There needs to be a balance yes, but I don't get it, lol.

[Capt_Von_Trapp]

Originally Posted by rtmike

This whole ev push is a joke, lol.

95% of households don't have sufficient wiring to charge one overnight.
Portable or out in the boonies chargers are powered by diesel generators.
Oh, and let's keep punching damns in the nw, lol.
Windmills have 20 yeaar expectations, non recyclable.
Entire w m farms power a town of 1300-1500. That's what the Vesta techs told me, lol.
Maintenance is high $$, crane rental boys, lol. And they look like shit all over out here.

There needs to be a balance yes, but I don't get it, lol.

You don’t understand the push? Haven’t noticed the price of gas over the past few months?

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp

You don’t understand the push? Haven’t noticed the price of gas over the past few months?

Of course I do. It's what this administration wants.

I'm just trying to figure out where we're getting all this electricity for an ev world, lol.
No coal, no nuclear. They haven't figured out hydrogen yet.

Yall want electric but wanna destroy how it's produced is comical.

How many of you work or worked in the field, lol.

It was California using diesel generators.
Regardless the power doesn't just produce itself. Third of our power is coal.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by rtmike

I'm just trying to figure out where we're getting all this electricity for an ev world, lol.

Have you heard of this thing called...



I will be installing solar panels on the house and on the shop (which will be ready for the EV in a few days) which will power my vehicle along with the majority of my in home use.

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

Have you heard of this thing called...



I will be installing solar panels on the house and on the shop (which will be ready for the EV in a few days) which will power my vehicle along with the majority of my in home use.

Good for you.

I've been looking into panels for my south side.
The panels are great when the sun's shining otherwise you're investing in bigger storage batteries. Not ideal for all of the country.

We'll see in 20 years, lol.

I see you're the op. Not crapping on your post man, congrats.
I just don't get their thinking right now.

We're not hearing about the nw punching damns anymore so I guess the huggers quit caring about Salmon, lol.

The new long distance Tesla can't even be fully charged in a weekend. Musk is developing power packs to help with that so we'll see...

[Capt_Von_Trapp]

Originally Posted by rtmike

Of course I do. It's what this administration wants.

I'm just trying to figure out where we're getting all this electricity for an ev world, lol.
No coal, no nuclear. They haven't figured out hydrogen yet.

Yall want electric but wanna destroy how it's produced is comical.

How many of you work or worked in the field, lol.

It was California using diesel generators.
Regardless the power doesn't just produce itself. Third of our power is coal.

Relax. We will be fine. It’s not like every car on the road is just going to magically become an EV. Gasoline powered cars will be around a looooong time. Lots of people still love the internal combustion engine and alway will.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by rtmike

Good for you.

I've been looking into panels for my south side.
The panels are great when the sun's shining otherwise you're investing in bigger storage batteries. Not ideal for all of the country.

We'll see in 20 years, lol.

I see you're the op. Not crapping on your post man, congrats.
I just don't get their thinking right now.

We're not hearing about the nw punching damns anymore so I guess the huggers quit caring about Salmon, lol.

The new long distance Tesla can't even be fully charged in a weekend. Musk is developing power packs to help with that so we'll see...

My roof has a heavy slant and one side faces east, the other west, and there is not a single thing between it and the sky other than the occasional cloud... as I live out in the country. Literally middle of nowhere Missouri.

I expect I will be using the local electricity coop I currently use for my power needs as the battery. Anything that I don't use during the day that the panels collect gets fed into their system and I have a built in "credit" for usage during the night.

Eventually I will move to a battery system but not until that technology gets better. As for tree hugging... that ain't me son. I care about the environment and all but I'm currently more concerned with how this affects my bottom line.

No worries on the crapping on the thread or what not... you are welcome to state your opinion. I get your position though I don't know that it is all based on current tech.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by rtmike

The new long distance Tesla can't even be fully charged in a weekend. Musk is developing power packs to help with that so we'll see...

Where are you even getting this stuff? The longest-range Teslas out there charge in about 12 hours on a standard 220v charger. I suppose if you're wanting to just charge it on a 110v outlet it might take the whole weekend, but no one's going to spend $80k on a car and then refuse to pay the extra $750 to have a home charger installed.

[rtmike]

I think it's Australia that a millionaire built a huge solar farm and plans to sell the power to China. Underground cable and all.

Finland is finishing up building a nuclear plant that self disposes the waste that the rest of the world's watching.

China is going nuts building nuclear plants. I read 7-8 are currently being built.


I just hope if a tornado comes thru all my shits charged, lol.



I never edited my original post.
"There needs to be a balance." Instead of eliminating fossil fuels.
Car companies are phazing out fossil fuel rigs, just a fact.

Trust me. I had to buy a bigger AH battery for my little scooter to.keep.from driving my daily driver.

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Where are you even getting this stuff? The longest-range Teslas out there charge in about 12 hours on a standard 220v charger. I suppose if you're wanting to just charge it on a 110v outlet it might take the whole weekend, but no one's going to spend $80k on a car and then refuse to pay the extra $750 to have a home charger installed.

The NEW long distance Tesla.
It's not available yet, lol.

I damn sure can't afford an $80k ev and then I gotta worry about my ancient wiring in my house to support 220v Tesla supercharger.
But I if went 120v in my old crib, it's almost 109 hours to charge one of Teslas models. Check Teslas site.

We're not all made of money.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by rtmike

The NEW long distance Tesla.
It's not available yet, lol.

I damn sure can't afford an $80k ev and then I gotta worry about my ancient wiring in my house to support 220v Tesla supercharger.
But I if went 120v in my old crib, it's almost 109 hours to charge one of Teslas models. Check Teslas site.

We're not all made of money.

I hate to tell you this, but if you're too poor to install a 220v charger, you're not in the target market for an ultra long range Tesla.

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I hate to tell you this, but if you're too poor to install a 220v charger, you're not in the target market for an ultra long range Tesla.

I hope that made you feel good about yourself, lol.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I hate to tell you this, but if you're too poor to install a 220v charger, you're not in the target market for an ultra long range Tesla.

Originally Posted by rtmike

I hope that made you feel good about yourself, lol.

I don't believe DaFace was taking a jab at your financial state.

What he is saying is that while yes, you are *technically* correct that it takes a lifetime to charge from a 120v BUT... if someone has enough dough to spend on an $80k car then they probably not only have the extra $700 it costs to install the 220 outlet and purchase the charger... they also probably live in a home that has wiring which can support 220v.

In my case, it would take 2.5 days to charge from flat to full on this EV I'm trying to buy on the 110 charger and that is not a workable solution for me so I'm forced into the 220. While I'm not made of money, I live on a farm and getting the appropriate 14-50 plug installed isn't a big hill to surmount for me and I needed one anyway.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by rtmike

The NEW long distance Tesla.
It's not available yet, lol.

I damn sure can't afford an $80k ev and then I gotta worry about my ancient wiring in my house to support 220v Tesla supercharger.
But I if went 120v in my old crib, it's almost 109 hours to charge one of Teslas models. Check Teslas site.

We're not all made of money.

Would you even need the range afforded by that new long range Tesla?

How about the new Rav4 that pairs a 4cyl engine with electric motors that puts out about 45 miles before the battery is gone. Charges to full over 12 hours on 110 and there is a gas engine that takes over completely when the charge is gone and does something like 44MPG. Overall range is 300+ miles.

Unless you live 20 minutes away from town like I do or drive a large amount of miles in a single day... the battery aspect of this Toyota would likely take care of all your errands and likely the majority of your drive into work, or if you don't work, your drive to do whatever you spend your days doing.