Deebo wants $25m/year. Is the WR market broken?

[Direckshun]

I read this and was talking about this with a friend yesterday.

I entered this offseason finding a way to stomach $20m/year for Tyreek. When the rumblings started to suggest $25m/year, I could barely contain myself. The strain that will put on our cap -- or any team's cap -- to pay that much for a player who can't even make his own plays without a QB getting the ball to him. That is hard to fathom.

$30m/year, though? There's no team with a competent QB in the league that will be able to pay that.

With Deebo set to ask for 25/year, that does suggest that the league could be heading to a place where elite WRs and QBs simply cannot be on the same team anymore. That your best hope is for a WR or a QB who immediately becomes elite on their rookie contract, or in the case of the stupid Bengals, one of each.

Because with Derek Carr going $40m/year, that means you're looking at $60-80m a year being tied up in two players.

How do we see this playing out over the next five years? Is there a WR bubble that's about to burst?

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Ingrate? Deebo was SF's entire offense last season.

He can tell himself that when he's on a terrible team. Money makes everything better.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Team will be going WRBC the same way they did with RB when those guys started asking too much , a bunch of specialists and be creative.

Very possibly.

The market will respond. Every position can't go breaking the bank. Somebody is gonna get pinched here and if it's WRs making that kind of money, the defensive equivalent at DB may well respond accordingly. And then teams will go cheap on DL so the counter will be cheaper OL and suddenly the cycle will reverse.

It's just a pendulum. This too shall pass.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

He can tell himself that when he's on a terrible team. Money makes everything better.

It's our hobby.

It's their job,

Why wouldn't money be their primary motivation? It should be. This job beats the **** out of them and in 5 years they'll be done with it and won't have much long-term earning potential afterward.

Fine - go play on a terrible team for 4 years, make $100 million and then live the rest of your life in comfort. Because LOOOOOONG after you've moved onto the next draft class and how they can help the Chiefs, Deebo Samuel will be living with the decisions he makes here.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's our hobby.

It's their job,

Why wouldn't money be their primary motivation? It should be. This job beats the **** out of them and in 5 years they'll be done with it and won't have much long-term earning potential afterward.

Fine - go play on a terrible team for 4 years, make $100 million and then live the rest of your life in comfort. Because LOOOOOONG after you've moved onto the next draft class and how they can help the Chiefs, Deebo Samuel will be living with the decisions he makes here.

And he's already got a ring....so it's not like he's still searching for that championship.

He'll go down as one of the best deep threats in the history of the NFL no matter what he does in Miami.

I don't fault Hill for what he did. Just like I don't fault Veach for what he did.

[alanm]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Pay Stevie the 1k you liar

Did I miss something??

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

And he's already got a ring....so it's not like he's still searching for that championship.

He'll go down as one of the best deep threats in the history of the NFL no matter what he does in Miami.

I don't fault Hill for what he did. Just like I don't fault Veach for what he did.

Unless Hill rips us to shit and knocks us out of the playoffs, I have nothing against the guy, and I'm glad his trade didn't result in any bad blood between him and KC.

[Rainbarrel]

Andy was in the flipping QBs business for a bit there. Maybe the start of something... not so bad

[Eureka]

Kyler Murray wants $$ as well. Stars want to be paid.

[scho63]

Everyone rushing to the bank vault to get paid. Can you blame them?

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

I'm sure the NFLPA would never allow it, but I'm curious how a positional salary cap might work, or at least a separate cap number for QBs.

Bad idea.

The whole point of the salary cap is to balance the league and keep top tier teams from keeping top talent locked up.

Let the team decided where to spend the money. A positional cap either doesn't really change things, or it tends to create a loop hole that favors wealthy owners.

And then you add needless complications with the position. What position does Deebo play?

How about that wanna be QB in New Orleans?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

You committed to not posting on CP any longer and were going to pay $1000 to Stevie if you did. Did you do that?

Not posting in DC any longer. And I haven't. Lol at just now noticing I've been posting in the Lounge.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We don't have 3 to 4 very good wr's.

Maybe one good WR (If Juju returns to form) and another guy that is a bit better than a JAG in MVS.

Agreed. We need more. But we may not need a superstar.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's our hobby.

It's their job,

Why wouldn't money be their primary motivation? It should be. This job beats the **** out of them and in 5 years they'll be done with it and won't have much long-term earning potential afterward.

Fine - go play on a terrible team for 4 years, make $100 million and then live the rest of your life in comfort. Because LOOOOOONG after you've moved onto the next draft class and how they can help the Chiefs, Deebo Samuel will be living with the decisions he makes here.

Well, I hope they enjoy living with the decision to go play for seller dwellers. If winning means nothing then go be a paid loser somewhere. They can go to their private beach sipping margaritas and listening to Jimmy Buffet. Then the thought would occur to them how much their current team sux and how they need another drink just to get it off their mind.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Well, I hope they enjoy living with the decision to go play for seller dwellers. If winning means nothing then go be a paid loser somewhere. They can go to their private beach sipping margaritas and listening to Jimmy Buffet. Then the thought would occur to them how much their current team sux and how they need another drink just to get it off their mind.

These guys have FIFTY YEARS to live after they’re done being your whipping boy.

By the time they’re 40 how many shits do you think they’ll give about the league that was done with them a decade ago?

It has nothing to do with their ‘current’ team - it’s the literal decades of impact that follow.

But keep telling those jesters how to dance for your amusement. I’m sure your disapproval bothers the hell out of them.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

From a player's association standpoint, though, this is a bad thing long-term.

The league has brutal turnover as it is. The more high-end deals you see, the more stars/scrubs teams you'll see. In the process it will squeeze out the 2nd contract guys and the middle class FAs will see diminished returns as well.

If the rank/file players in the NFLPA were smart, they'd look to get a handle on some of this and perhaps see if there could be ways to create max deals for certain position groups and/or carveouts for QBs.

Otherwise this is only going to get worse for them.

just like the latest baseball deal. The everyday players allowed the players with the $100 million contracts to dictate terms friendly to them. They need to do something about the spiraling salaries or the players on the low end are going to see their low end and opportunities shrink even more.