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Taylor: 53-man roster projection: Ronald Jones returns, eight rookies earn spots

Chiefs’ 53-man roster projection: Ronald Jones returns, eight rookies earn spots

By Nate Taylor

https://theathletic.com/3545850/2022...eight-rookies/

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — One of the hardest days in the NFL every year will occur Tuesday, the league’s mandatory roster cutdown deadline, the annual day when many players on the roster bubble leave a team’s training facility for the final time.

The Chiefs, yet again this year, know they are one of the league’s top Super Bowl contenders. After a traditional away-from-home training camp and a successful tour through the preseason, the Chiefs’ quantity of quality players will make the decisions leading up to Tuesday’s 3 p.m. CT deadline difficult. One decision to keep a player on the initial 53-man roster means another player, perhaps at another position, could be cut then join another team — as soon as this week — and become a contributor this season.

“It’s such a physical sport — and it’s such a long season,” general manager Brett Veach said Thursday on the Chiefs’ local TV broadcast during the team’s preseason finale against the Green Bay Packers. “We talk about it as a (personnel) staff all the time. When you look at your eight, ninth (offensive) lineman and you look at your fifth linebacker or your sixth receiver, those guys are really going to end up starting (or) playing valuable minutes throughout the course of the season.”

Similar to this time last year, the Chiefs have about 60 players who have value. The team appeared to still have about six roster spots available to be won when Thursday’s exhibition started. Following the game, three different players from our previous projection earlier this month have elevated themselves to be in position to earn a place on the Chiefs’ roster.

Below is our final 53-man roster projection, which included the reasons why some players, particularly a few veterans, earned the last roster spots over their younger teammates.

Note: Per usual, starters are designated in italics.

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Old 08-29-2022, 02:29 PM   #46
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I am more concerned with them losing Beuchele than Kinnard.
I'm not even the slightest bit concerned over losing Buechele. It's not like he's a meaningful difference vs. Henne. They're both fungible backups. If Buechele has value around the league and would get sniped, I'd be fine trading him.

Because ultimately Andy Reid will make another one just like him. And then another one after that. These are marginal talents that Reid coaches into looking like they're NFL players.
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Old 08-29-2022, 02:32 PM   #47
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The issue there is though, you'd hope at worst Kinnard can become a starting guard allowing us to move on from Thuney's contract, Buechele never moves to a starter role here.

Wanogho and Christian as backup OT's great, but no need to keep both Allegretti and Reiter, they're the same damn guy.
Nah.

Ideally you'd like to have one focus on being a C and the other focus on being a G. You can have Reiter on the roster as a backup C and be completely confident in how things will go should Creed go down. You can also have Allegretti out there as a G and be equally confident. Those are guys you'd like to have on the roster and working at their 'primary' positions.

You lose one of your starters and you're a sprain away from seeing Kinnard protecting the middle and I'm just not comfortable with that.
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I'd love to see a trade for a pass rusher. Player for player like we've done.
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Old 08-29-2022, 02:42 PM   #49
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True, but I am looking at the possibility that Mahomes misses any time (hope not). At some point I am not looking forward to the possibility of a 37+ year old Henne coming in. We almost lost Beuchele last year. Not sure we sneak him onto the PS again.
If that's the case, I'd rather suck ass get better draft picks and a 4th place schedule for the next season.
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I'd love to see a trade for a pass rusher. Player for player like we've done.
So you're probably wanting to look for guys in, say, their 3rd season who have disappointed.

The Panthers seem to still be high on Metur-Gross. Darrell Taylor missed his rookie year but came back nicely last season. Okwara is probably a little undersized.

AJ Epenesa is a Bill - I just don't see them trying to help us out. You've mentioned Chaisson a time or two, IIRC - probably not a bad option to make a call on. The Texans have no real reason to move Greenard. The 2019 draft was a shit-show at DE so you're not finding much there. 2021 isn't looking much better.

I think it's probably Chaisson or bust. I don't see anybody else out there that's a real appealing/attainable target.
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Nah.

Ideally you'd like to have one focus on being a C and the other focus on being a G. You can have Reiter on the roster as a backup C and be completely confident in how things will go should Creed go down. You can also have Allegretti out there as a G and be equally confident. Those are guys you'd like to have on the roster and working at their 'primary' positions.

You lose one of your starters and you're a sprain away from seeing Kinnard protecting the middle and I'm just not comfortable with that.
Allegretti is a great guy to have at backup guard. Dude will be a starter next year somewhere. I'm fine with Reiter too, I hope to never see him, but it could be worse. OT is the concern and sadly Niang and Kinnard don't seem to be the answer.

I'd love to try and get Jenkins from the Bears, hell anything, would improve what we have at backup OT.
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So you're probably wanting to look for guys in, say, their 3rd season who have disappointed.

The Panthers seem to still be high on Metur-Gross. Darrell Taylor missed his rookie year but came back nicely last season. Okwara is probably a little undersized.

AJ Epenesa is a Bill - I just don't see them trying to help us out. You've mentioned Chaisson a time or two, IIRC - probably not a bad option to make a call on. The Texans have no real reason to move Greenard. The 2019 draft was a shit-show at DE so you're not finding much there. 2021 isn't looking much better.

I think it's probably Chaisson or bust. I don't see anybody else out there that's a real appealing/attainable target.
Yeah, as much as I'd love to have a good young DE, I don't really see one that's attainable.

I still don't know what's happening with Quinn but I'm hoping the Bears and Commanders suck so they'll look to trade some of those DL guys.
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I'd love to see a trade for a pass rusher. Player for player like we've done.
I was about to laugh at the thought of a team trading away a pass rusher willy-nilly in a player-for-player trade, then I remembered that Veach pulled that exact shit off when he sent away Eric Murray for Ogbah.

Don't know about late preseason, since very few teams have just so many good pass rushers that they can't keep them all, but nothing would really surprise me. Veach is a wizard at this shit.
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Damn, Ogbah. Should have thrown some money at him and kept him around.

Now I'm all sad.
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I was about to laugh at the thought of a team trading away a pass rusher willy-nilly in a player-for-player trade, then I remembered that Veach pulled that exact shit off when he sent away Eric Murray for Ogbah.

Don't know about late preseason, since very few teams have just so many good pass rushers that they can't keep them all, but nothing would really surprise me. Veach is a wizard at this shit.
Montez Sweat is a player I've kinda kept my eye on.
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I'm not even the slightest bit concerned over losing Buechele. It's not like he's a meaningful difference vs. Henne. They're both fungible backups. If Buechele has value around the league and would get sniped, I'd be fine trading him.

Because ultimately Andy Reid will make another one just like him. And then another one after that. These are marginal talents that Reid coaches into looking like they're NFL players.
Yup and Henne's contract is fully guaranteed so is it worth it to hold on the Buechele just to make sure he is around next year to be the #2 guy?

Is he worth eating $2MM to dump Henne? Nah.
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Welp, looks like I was right about Skyy; made it easily. So did Pacheco for that matter.

Looks like Shelton will make it as well, though I thought he was kind of a shoo-in anyway (didn't he sign a 1-year deal or something?).

Anyone else surprised (even a little?) that LB E. Lee made it? Maybe it was just me, but I didn't really see that much out of him, though I did watch the Franchise episode 2 bit of him and he seems like a nice guy that also has all the intangibles that the Chiefs like.
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So you're probably wanting to look for guys in, say, their 3rd season who have disappointed.

The Panthers seem to still be high on Metur-Gross. Darrell Taylor missed his rookie year but came back nicely last season. Okwara is probably a little undersized.

AJ Epenesa is a Bill - I just don't see them trying to help us out. You've mentioned Chaisson a time or two, IIRC - probably not a bad option to make a call on. The Texans have no real reason to move Greenard. The 2019 draft was a shit-show at DE so you're not finding much there. 2021 isn't looking much better.

I think it's probably Chaisson or bust. I don't see anybody else out there that's a real appealing/attainable target.
You'd also have 3rd year guys who teams don't wanna sign or can't sign long term. You'd theoretically have 3 years with teh tag if you traded for them so while not ideal, it could work.

They won't do it, probably shouldn't but if the Panthers aren't planning to keep Burns or the Commanders with Sweat, you think they'd move them for less than a 1?
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Welp, looks like I was right about Skyy; made it easily. So did Pacheco for that matter.

Looks like Shelton will make it as well, though I thought he was kind of a shoo-in anyway (didn't he sign a 1-year deal or something?).

Anyone else surprised (even a little?) that LB E. Lee made it? Maybe it was just me, but I didn't really see that much out of him, though I did watch the Franchise episode 2 bit of him and he seems like a nice guy that also has all the intangibles that the Chiefs like.
To be fair, this is Taylor projecting the final roster. It's not the actual final roster.
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