Chiefs LNBS: Greg Lewis should be the new OC - Page 4

**BossChief** · 01-10-2023, 12:04 AM

After Bienemy goes to Denver.

Lots of similarities to Doug Peterson

Andy signed him as an UDFA out of college and coached him for 6 or 7 years.
Andy has prepped him for the role by having him coach multiple position groups.
The job he’s done with Pacheco and McKinnon has been top shelf.
Tyreek had his best years under Lewis.

Get the next round of Third round comp picks ready when Greg gets a HC spot in 2-3 years as Mahomes has his best years.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! · 02-16-2023, 03:15 AM

Did you see Nagy and Pat at the parade today? They are like two peas in a pod.

Rasputin · 02-16-2023, 03:19 AM

I dont see anyone but Nagy be our OC and we can put up 50 burgers weekly.

**RealSNR** · 02-16-2023, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Did you see Nagy and Pat at the parade today? They are like two peas in a pod.

Keep him around as QB coach. They can continue to be two peas in a pod.

**BigRedChief** · 02-16-2023, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Keep him around as QB coach. They can continue to be two peas in a pod.

Nagy will be the next OC. Get use to it. And why is this a problem?

Bringing in some new OC aint happening.

DJ's left nut · 02-16-2023, 09:09 AM

I said it in one of the other threads but it really comes down to what Matt Nagy wants to do long-term.

Does he want a chance at a HC job elsewhere? If so, he's going to want that OC gig. And if that's what he wants, give it to him.

If, OTOH, he's content biding his time here and likely replacing Andy long-term, then go ahead and give the gig to Greg Lewis and try to build his stock. You can go ahead and pay Nagy what you'd have paid him as an OC and he'd have similar responsibilities to Lewis, but it would boost Lewis's profile.

I give Nagy the right of first refusal.

DJ's left nut · 02-16-2023, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785

I have no idea what you guys see in Nagy. He was and is hated by Bears fans because he was trash there. He's fine here...because of that Mahomes guy as well as Andy.

As has been pointed out with EB, everyone knows it's Andy running things. Nagy doesn't mean much to us. Hopefully some other team tricks themselves into hiring.

I want the picks. Give the job to Lewis. There's no way he can be as bad at interviewing as EB apparently is. He'll get hired and get us picks.

Nagy can stay an assistant, if he knows what's good for him.

And Philly fans trashed Andy.

I truly don't care what opposing fans have to say about a guy. Many of them, and usually the loudest ones, don't know their asses from a hole in the ground.

oldman · 02-16-2023, 09:18 AM

Should EB leave, Nagy seems to be the logical successor.

But back to EB leaving. There's been a whole lot of discussion about play calling, his relationship with Mahomes, etc. I'm of the opinion that he will be hard-pressed to get that HC job as long as he's under Andy's shadow. Being an OC behind a defensive mined HC would prove that he's either a figurehead or HC material.

**ChiTown** · 02-16-2023, 09:50 AM

I don't believe for a min that Nagy can back just to be the QB Coach. He'll be our next OC, and then a front runner for HC when Reid retires in 10 years....

Direckshun · 02-16-2023, 10:15 AM

This coaching staff has just been insane for a while now.

Reid, Nagy, Spags, and Bienemy are all HC-caliber coaches.

Lewis, Heck, Cullen, and Merritt are all coordinator-caliber coaches. It was bananas.

DJ's left nut · 02-16-2023, 10:18 AM

Someday I'll understand why Sean McVay's pizza guy got a HC job but when it's Reid's guys you hear "Oh, well it's all Andy..."

Or why people keep picking fruit from the poisonous Belichick tree yet "we haven't seen Bieniemy do enough..."

Just don't get it.

**The Franchise** · 02-16-2023, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

I don't believe for a min that Nagy can back just to be the QB Coach. He'll be our next OC, and then a front runner for HC when Reid retires in 10 years....

And Reid might have talked to him when he came back about that. If Nagy is the succession plan...then why not let Greg Lewis get his turn as OC and then get a job as a HC?

oldman · 02-16-2023, 12:08 PM

Nagy walked into a mess in Chicago, hoping he could make the Bears into something he couldn't. EB saw that and isn't going to make the same mistake. As long as Nagy stays around Andy and PMII, he's going to be in discussions about potential HC vacancies. The same can be said for Lewis. EB is a perennial bridesmaid as long as he's with the Chiefs, too many "thanks, but no thanks" opportunities blown. He has to prove his worth with another team.

DRM08 · 02-16-2023, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I said it in one of the other threads but it really comes down to what Matt Nagy wants to do long-term.

Does he want a chance at a HC job elsewhere? If so, he's going to want that OC gig. And if that's what he wants, give it to him.

If, OTOH, he's content biding his time here and likely replacing Andy long-term, then go ahead and give the gig to Greg Lewis and try to build his stock. You can go ahead and pay Nagy what you'd have paid him as an OC and he'd have similar responsibilities to Lewis, but it would boost Lewis's profile.

I give Nagy the right of first refusal.

I watched a recent interview with Nagy. He said he is watching everything Coach Reid does while remembering everything Nagy did wrong in Chicago. He said he’s taking notes and learning as much as he can from Reid. He said now that he had the 4 years of HC experience, he has a completely different view while observing & learning from Reid.

Nagy is definitely wanting to be a HC again. I think he should be patient and wait for the Chiefs job. He has the perfect relationship with a Hall of Fame QB & Hall of Fame GM. It’s a much better situation than walking into another team where the HC got fired and the team is a mess.

Red Dawg · 02-16-2023, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

I don't believe for a min that Nagy can back just to be the QB Coach. He'll be our next OC, and then a front runner for HC when Reid retires in 10 years....

75? That's not happening.

**BossChief** · 02-16-2023, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I said it in one of the other threads but it really comes down to what Matt Nagy wants to do long-term.

Does he want a chance at a HC job elsewhere? If so, he's going to want that OC gig. And if that's what he wants, give it to him.

If, OTOH, he's content biding his time here and likely replacing Andy long-term, then go ahead and give the gig to Greg Lewis and try to build his stock. You can go ahead and pay Nagy what you'd have paid him as an OC and he'd have similar responsibilities to Lewis, but it would boost Lewis's profile.

I give Nagy the right of first refusal.

You know what would be a sweet gig for Nagy?

Focus on developing the whole tool box of Mahomes while getting paid like an OC.
Greg Lewis gets his shot as OC and in 2 years, gets a HC job (which I think he will) and Nagy gets the OC job (another raise) and the team gets 2 third rounders to add to our existing talent pool.

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02-16-2023, 09:09 AM	#50
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-640901	I said it in one of the other threads but it really comes down to what Matt Nagy wants to do long-term. Does he want a chance at a HC job elsewhere? If so, he's going to want that OC gig. And if that's what he wants, give it to him. If, OTOH, he's content biding his time here and likely replacing Andy long-term, then go ahead and give the gig to Greg Lewis and try to build his stock. You can go ahead and pay Nagy what you'd have paid him as an OC and he'd have similar responsibilities to Lewis, but it would boost Lewis's profile. I give Nagy the right of first refusal. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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02-16-2023, 09:18 AM	#52
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	Should EB leave, Nagy seems to be the logical successor. But back to EB leaving. There's been a whole lot of discussion about play calling, his relationship with Mahomes, etc. I'm of the opinion that he will be hard-pressed to get that HC job as long as he's under Andy's shadow. Being an OC behind a defensive mined HC would prove that he's either a figurehead or HC material.
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02-16-2023, 09:50 AM	#53
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $-341038	I don't believe for a min that Nagy can back just to be the QB Coach. He'll be our next OC, and then a front runner for HC when Reid retires in 10 years.... __________________
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02-16-2023, 10:15 AM	#54
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2113447	This coaching staff has just been insane for a while now. Reid, Nagy, Spags, and Bienemy are all HC-caliber coaches. Lewis, Heck, Cullen, and Merritt are all coordinator-caliber coaches. It was bananas.
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02-16-2023, 10:18 AM	#55
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-640901	Someday I'll understand why Sean McVay's pizza guy got a HC job but when it's Reid's guys you hear "Oh, well it's all Andy..." Or why people keep picking fruit from the poisonous Belichick tree yet "we haven't seen Bieniemy do enough..." Just don't get it. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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02-16-2023, 12:08 PM	#57
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	Nagy walked into a mess in Chicago, hoping he could make the Bears into something he couldn't. EB saw that and isn't going to make the same mistake. As long as Nagy stays around Andy and PMII, he's going to be in discussions about potential HC vacancies. The same can be said for Lewis. EB is a perennial bridesmaid as long as he's with the Chiefs, too many "thanks, but no thanks" opportunities blown. He has to prove his worth with another team.
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