2023 Discount KC Crow Mock: WR in Round 1

[duncan_idaho]

Running this exercise with the Chiefs taking a WR in Round 1. Whole model is based on... what things would look like if Jalin Hyatt is available to the Chiefs at 31, and KC takes him.

So, here goes!

31: Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee. Hyatt isn't a perfect prospect. There are questions about his route tree and ability to be diverse. And I'm glad there are. It's the only reason he's here for KC. With his speed and quickness, Hyatt adds some major juice to the offense.

48 (Trade up with Seattle, sending 62, 2023 4th, and a 2024 2nd for 2023 48 and a 2024 3rd). Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland. My ideal draft in this case is offense-heavy early, nabbing a WR and a RT. Depending on what Wright's stock does, taking him here would make sense if available (he was in this mock, but I didn't believe he would be come draft day, so I didn't take Wright).

Duncan has all the athletic tools and needs to be coached up. Good prospect for KC. And what a name!

82 (Trade up with Tampa, sending #95 and a 6th for #82). Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan. Smith's stock is hard to place right now. But KC has found success with Michigan DL products with a character flag and gets a cheap one here.

122 Brendon Cox, Jr. DE, FLorida. Cox is a twitchy, sturdy DE who has some versatility to his game as well as good quickness and speed off the edge.

And I'll stop tracking there, because we're still early in mock draft season and the lists get silly as you get into 3rd day picks.

This draft lets me take an economical approach at WR and OT in free agency, allowing prioritization on re-signing Orlando Brown and extending Sneed and Jones.

WR: Valdes-Scantling, Moore, Toney, Hyatt is your top 4 in this spot. Maybe you take a low-cost shot at D.J. Chark, but definitely bring back Justin Watson.

This officially lets you move on from Mecole Hardman, though.

OT: Brown, Jr-Thuney-Humphrey-Smith-Duncan is the goal. Need some depth at T (I still like Andre Dillard as an option there).

So. Thoughts?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'm not giving him 3 years I think 1 year deals while he can still provide depth is fine especially with Toney has yet to demonstrate he can stay healthy

Agreed.

And I do think the "If Toney is healthy" thing is something we as Chiefs' fans probably need to get used to regurgitating. He was a great pickup for a comp 3rd and 6th, and I was fully in support of it, but him being healthy all the time is something I wouldn't expect or count on. He's missed games forever with soft tissue injuries and I highly doubt that's going to change anytime soon. Hopefully, you get more games than you don't, especially the big games.

I have no hopes that he ever establishes himself as our #1 receiver or even a reliable #2. He's a chess piece you take advantage of as much as you can while he's on his rookie deal. Nothing more, nothing less.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Would you guys trade up to grab a Hyatt or Addison?

We have a spare 4, right?

That's about as much as I'd give and it won't get me far. We'd probably have to give up a 3rd to get up ahead of Buffalo via a trade w/ Dallas.

But yeah, that would be a hoot. It's almost worth giving up the 3rd just to piss them off again and listen to their fans bleed all over the place.

I enjoy seeing Buffalo and their fans suffer more than the Raiders or Broncos at this point. God I hate those ****ing guys.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'm not giving him 3 years I think 1 year deals while he can still provide depth is fine especially with Toney has yet to demonstrate he can stay healthy

I think that's all Hardman's going to want anyway.

I'd absolutely take him back on a 'make good' deal. Though if you're Hardman you have to be at least a little concerned that Toney's gonna eat into your chances to prove yourself.

But I think a healthy Hardman would've gone over 1,000 yards this season. He just looked like a different player in the brief moments he was even a little healthy. Even when he was gimpy (heel, right?) he was dangerous.

And I'd STILL draft Hyatt.

Toney
Hardman
MVS
Hyatt
Moore
Watson

That's just an incredible amount of burst.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

We have a spare 4, right?

That's about as much as I'd give and it won't get me far. We'd probably have to give up a 3rd to get up ahead of Buffalo via a trade w/ Dallas.

But yeah, that would be a hoot. It's almost worth giving up the 3rd just to piss them off again and listen to their fans bleed all over the place.

I enjoy seeing Buffalo and their fans suffer more than the Raiders or Broncos at this point. God I hate those ****ing guys.

probably why I would never be a successful GM because I would gladly give that up just to move ahead of them. Eh draft is a crapshoot anyway send it!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

probably why I would never be a successful GM because I would gladly give that up just to move ahead of them. Eh draft is a crapshoot anyway send it!

"You see those FIVE 7th round picks I'm holding and what I did with only 3 of those ****ers last year? Go ahead and take two inches off this hog and I'm still packing 14 inches...

SEND IT!!"

[staylor26]

So I'm assuming you'd take Hyatt over Addison as well DJ?

Kind of shocked how many on here feel that way.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

So I'm assuming you'd take Hyatt over Addison as well DJ?

Kind of shocked how many on here feel that way.

Yeah.

I know how ungodly lazy this sort of comparison is, but it's right in front of us. In terms of the type of skill set, I see Addison as being a better version of Moore while Hyatt is a better version of Hardman.

And I'd prefer the latter over the former. I just think Hyatt's best skill (that deep speed) is true top 10% of the league stuff and when you can get someone with a 'best of the best' sort of skill at that point in the draft, I think you do it.

Because it's just not often you have that opportunity unless it something secondary like "this guy may be the best run blocker/stopper" in the draft. But when it comes to "This guy can possibly take the top off a defense better than anybody else available this year..." and you can get him at the back of the 1st? Yeah - you do that.

[staylor26]

Interesting. I'm going to have to watch more of these guys. I literally just started that process after the AFCCG, so mostly going by what I saw when evaluating the top guys in this year's class back in May-July and some Hyatt highlights.

In other words, I haven't done enough homework on this year's WR class to say who I'd take out of those 2, hence why I was a bit surprised.

So far, I've only watched the edge rushers in our range. Guess I'll have to watch the WRs next.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Interesting. I'm going to have to watch more of these guys. I literally just started that process after the AFCCG, so mostly going by what I saw when evaluating the top guys in this year's class back in May-July and some Hyatt highlights.

In other words, I haven't done enough homework on this year's WR class to say who I'd take out of those 2, hence why I was a bit surprised.

So far, I've only watched the edge rushers in our range. Guess I'll have to watch the WRs next.

I'm not going to argue loudly with anyone who disagrees with me.

I don't think either are bad prospects. Hyatt just has that elite deep speed that intrigues the shit out of me.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm not going to argue loudly with anyone who disagrees with me.

I don't think either are bad prospects. Hyatt just has that elite deep speed that intrigues the shit out of me.

At the very least, I've seen enough already to know that I can't disagree about the difference in speed and skill sets, and since we have Moore to be more of the possession guy that we're losing with JuJu, I can see the argument to go with the speed of Hyatt to replace Hardman.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I think that's all Hardman's going to want anyway.

I'd absolutely take him back on a 'make good' deal. Though if you're Hardman you have to be at least a little concerned that Toney's gonna eat into your chances to prove yourself.

But I think a healthy Hardman would've gone over 1,000 yards this season. He just looked like a different player in the brief moments he was even a little healthy. Even when he was gimpy (heel, right?) he was dangerous.

And I'd STILL draft Hyatt.

Toney
Hardman
MVS
Hyatt
Moore
Watson

That's just an incredible amount of burst.

It's amazing the difference a year makes. Last year the clamour was for DL now we're talking about loading up at WR. I mean I'm here for it but I was just getting convinced by everyone to go for DL and the offense will be fine!

[JPH83]

I know it's a cliche but I think Hyatt and Addison/Flowers is a floors and ceilings thing. What Hyatt COULD be is lethal, but I could also see him doing far less. I don't really see Flowers or Addison being anything below very good slots/WR2s.

[Direckshun]

I actually don't remember if I've replied to this thread. But what I will say is that I'm glad I'm not the only one struggling with where to put Mazi.

[O.city]

Addison is real smooth though. I think I'd prefer to not trade up and have him fall to us but if I were forced, I'd rather trade up for Hyatt.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JPH83

It's amazing the difference a year makes. Last year the clamour was for DL now we're talking about loading up at WR. I mean I'm here for it but I was just getting convinced by everyone to go for DL and the offense will be fine!

Last year we did the heavy lifting to get a viable long-term SDE, IMO.

Now we can get a complementary DE opposite of him in the 2nd round.

I think OBJ is coming back and Clark likely is as well on a reduced deal. So if you can get a potentially dynamic WR in the first, a twitchy rusher, even as a rotational DE w/ Clark for a season in the 2nd round, and then a rangier safety in the 3rd or solid DT prospect in the 3rd, I think you're sitting awfully pretty.