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Old 04-02-2023, 06:45 PM  
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Trade Idea: Rams WR Allen Robinson to Patrick Mahomes' Chiefs

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The Los Angeles Rams need high picks in order to retool the roster and turn the ship around.

Only problem? They don't have that many.

While the 11 selections the Rams have are valuable, eight of those picks come after No. 150 overall. The team's three picks outside of those come on Day 2, and

Los Angeles could use another one.

Bleacher Report suggests an idea that could land them another mid-round pick, trading wide receiver Allen Robinson II to the Kansas City Chiefs.

The Chiefs are seeking a top wideout for Patrick Mahomes after JuJu Smith-Schuster signed with the New England Patriots in free agency, and Robinson fits the build.

The timing of this deal could be a little tricky though.
If the Rams were to trade Robinson before the draft in order to acquire a pick for this year, Los Angeles would save a mere $1.6 million in cap space. However, if the team had some patience and waited until after June 1, the Rams would save $10 million.

Last spring, Robinson signed a three-year, $46.5 million deal with the Rams. His contract carries cap hits north of $18 million for the upcoming 2023 and 2024 seasons -- clearly a situation the front office wants to avoid taking on.

Robinson is talented but managed to catch just 33 passes for 339 yards and three touchdowns in his first season with the Rams, failing to reach the high expectations placed upon him when he came to Los Angeles.

A divorce could be best for both sides, and the Chiefs could bring out the best in Robinson with arguably the league's best quarterback throwing to him.
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Old 04-02-2023, 09:36 PM   #46
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Why wouldn't they just cut him? He's a broke dick at this point noway anyone gives a pick for him
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Old 04-02-2023, 09:37 PM   #47
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Why wouldn't they just cut him? He's a broke dick at this point noway anyone gives a pick for him
No idea what his dead cap number is if they cut him, but I bet it's more than they're willing to pay.
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Old 04-02-2023, 09:41 PM   #48
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No idea what his dead cap number is if they cut him, but I bet it's more than they're willing to pay.
Just looked it up according to Over the Cap:

18 mil cap hit
26.45 dead money

what an awful contract. McVay is going to be doing play by play after next season
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Old 04-02-2023, 10:49 PM   #49
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Just looked it up according to Over the Cap:

18 mil cap hit
26.45 dead money

what an awful contract. McVay is going to be doing play by play after next season
Ewww
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Old 04-02-2023, 11:17 PM   #50
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Just looked it up according to Over the Cap:

18 mil cap hit
26.45 dead money

what an awful contract. McVay is going to be doing play by play after next season
Haha, shiiiiit.

Give me OBJ or DHop all day every day over that mess.
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Old 04-03-2023, 01:19 AM   #51
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Haha, shiiiiit.

Give me OBJ or DHop all day every day over that mess.
I'm curious what Dhop gets unless it's a draft night trade which could happen that trade compensation has to go waaaay down after the draft. As for OBJ I don't see how any team commits to him for longer than 1 year.

Man it's such a shame the Rams won that 1 fluke title. They really are the definition of a poorly ran front office another example according to Over the Cap:

Stafford this year 20 mil cap hit & 111 mil cap. Next year 49.5 mil cap hit & 91.5 dead cap

This article goes into alot of detail about the awful deals they have:

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lis...-2023-players/
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This proposed trade is stupid. Its somening Denver would do, not KC.
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Old 04-03-2023, 06:45 AM   #53
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Conditional 7th or wait for him to be released.
7th plus they eat 90% of his salary.
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Old 04-03-2023, 08:27 AM   #54
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Old 04-03-2023, 08:35 AM   #55
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I like that a lot. Definitely a fair and balanced trade.
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Old 04-03-2023, 08:35 AM   #56
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I was really hoping that this was the end of the McVay era. The year before they brag about "**** them picks." Thinking Stafford is a world-beater, that OBJ was a difference maker, thinking that their model was the new best thing in sports. Then Aaron Donald is injured, contemplates retirement unless they pay him directly after the Super Bowl. They have to cut Wagner and trade Ramsey, McVay goes on a pouty retreat to wonder where it all went wrong, now for some reason he's coming back out of the shadows with significantly less talent and expecting people to believe he's a good coach again. Man we would've beaten the ever loving shit out of that team if we hadn't lost to Cincy, pisses me off still.
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:17 AM   #57
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Contract looks pretty good to me if we want a cheap bandaid. I believe LAR already paid his roster bonus. And they’ve paid out his signing bonus. So it’d be $10m this year and $16m next year. Which we can void if Robinson sucks this year or if we find a young replacement.
Eh - $10 million for a guy who's been hurt and/or ineffective the last 2 seasons (as he's entered his 30s) doesn't qualify as a 'cheap bandaid', IMO.

That's a desperation play. And with very little upside because you're not going to write that guy's $5 million roster bonus check next season so he's really just a 1 year deal at $10 million.

And he looked DONE last season after somehow looking as bad/worse the season before.

Nah - that's gonna need to be a deal where they bonus out that base salary over the remaining 4 years (2 void) on his deal to get that salary down near $5 million this season at worst. And is $5 million in cap savings worth a 6th round pick for the Rams? Probably not - ol' Les and his '**** dem picks' approach wouldn't seem to care that much about a 3rd day pick.

There have been a slew of better gambles to make in FA at lower costs and we haven't made them. This one seems very unlikely absent some additional maneuvering by the Rams.
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Haha, shiiiiit.

Give me OBJ or DHop all day every day over that mess.
In fairness, no matter what LA does, they absorb a massive chunk of his cap hit. The roster bonus has already been paid so it's on their cap as is the pro-rated bonus.

As it stands, he'd come here with $10 million in cap charges and zero in dead money for 2024.
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:36 AM   #59
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In fairness, no matter what LA does, they absorb a massive chunk of his cap hit. The roster bonus has already been paid so it's on their cap as is the pro-rated bonus.

As it stands, he'd come here with $10 million in cap charges and zero in dead money for 2024.
You're not supposed to have conversations about things that aren't based in any true "rumor mill" fashion.

Just saying...
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Eh - $10 million for a guy who's been hurt and/or ineffective the last 2 seasons (as he's entered his 30s) doesn't qualify as a 'cheap bandaid', IMO.

That's a desperation play. And with very little upside because you're not going to write that guy's $5 million roster bonus check next season so he's really just a 1 year deal at $10 million.

And he looked DONE last season after somehow looking as bad/worse the season before.

Nah - that's gonna need to be a deal where they bonus out that base salary over the remaining 4 years (2 void) on his deal to get that salary down near $5 million this season at worst. And is $5 million in cap savings worth a 6th round pick for the Rams? Probably not - ol' Les and his '**** dem picks' approach wouldn't seem to care that much about a 3rd day pick.

There have been a slew of better gambles to make in FA at lower costs and we haven't made them. This one seems very unlikely absent some additional maneuvering by the Rams.
Yeah it would depend on if he’s cooked. I didn’t see enough of him to know. I thought from the little I saw he’s got a little left but was used poorly. I am just saying if you think a guy like this has any gas left in the tank this kind of contract isn’t a bad one. If the goal is to aggresssively develop a WR1 or maybe hold out into true WR1s like aiyuk become available either way it seems like our best immediate solution is a bandaid.

And a 2-year deal worth $10m with a conditional second year ain’t too shabby. I thought the juju deal last year was a good one too. Where we tripped up (and I’m hoping I’m wrong) was not aggressively drafting a WR1. I just don’t think skyy has that ceiling. As long as the goal is to get rid of these bandaids sooner vs later, it’s not a bad strategy to overpay a little. Of course that completely depends on if the guy is too cooked to contribute anymore.
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