Why the Chiefs will pay a lot for Chris Jones

[New World Order]

Our defense needs Chris Jones

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Our defense needs Chris Jones

And we have Chris Jones. For 2023 and 2024 if we so choose.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch

And we have Chris Jones. For 2023 and 2024 if we so choose.

This is probably the best option. If he shows up now then let him play this year and then tag and trade. If he doesn't show up until week 8 this year, then tag his ass again next year for $24.5 million which is a huge deal for us.

The guy has zero leverage

[Direckshun]

If I were the Chiefs, I almost just wouldn't budge. I hope they haven't budged for a couple weeks.

Not that we can't use Jones, but we can't incentivize players missing camp. And if he misses Week 1, we absolutely cannot incentivize players missing real games.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

If I were the Chiefs, I almost just wouldn't budge. I hope they haven't budged for a couple weeks.

Not that we can't use Jones, but we can't incentivize players missing camp. And if he misses Week 1, we absolutely cannot incentivize players missing real games.

You definitely can’t budge now. Especially because the only thing that makes sense is that before the draft they were thinking he was much closer to them than the $30 million he apparently wants now.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/sinow/status/169...lHXA6BeO88mpxA

Scary to compare him to Haynesworth

[O.city]

They're not tagging him next year at 33.5 million dollars, so unless he just sits out and brings that number down, it's kind of not worth talking about.

I would venture to say they think of him more of a guy that's not your normal DE and ages differently, but we shall see.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by O.city

They're not tagging him next year at 33.5 million dollars, so unless he just sits out and brings that number down, it's kind of not worth talking about.

I would venture to say they think of him more of a guy that's not your normal DE and ages differently, but we shall see.

I honestly don't get your logic on being so sure about Veach not tagging Jones even at $33.5M BUT also thinking that Veach should pay him $30+ million.

What do you think next years cap hit will be if Veach gives him $30M average?


I think we all would agree that if Veach does in fact reach a new deal with Jones that this years cap hit will go down from the $28.291 million it is ATM.

Veach seems to like cheap 1st years on new contracts but lets say the new deal only brings it down to say $20M instead of $28M to give Veach and the front office some breathing room.

$30M avg over lets say a 3 year deal is $90M with what about $60M in guarentees. If you take a $20M hit this year that means next year when you think it would be crazy for Veach to tag Jones for $33.5M but ok to give him a contract worth $30M average..his cap hit should be around that exact $33.5M number if not more.

I'm sure this is also one of the factors Veach is looking at and realizes why give him that $30M contract when worst case he could tag him for about the same cap hit in 2024 and look for a trade partner or just let him play on it.

[Mecca]

I think if they were gonna pay him it would have already happened...

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think if they were gonna pay him it would have already happened...

I don't see how they could cave now. It would make them look weak, and it might encourage other players to attempt the same thing.

At least if Jones ends his holdout, he can save face by saying something like "I made my point, I'm under contract, I want to play, I want to win back to back Super Bowls, we'll take care of this next year," etc.

What would the Chiefs say? "We panicked."

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I don't see how they could cave now. It would make them look weak, and it might encourage other players to attempt the same thing.

At least if Jones ends his holdout, he can save face by saying something like "I made my point, I'm under contract, I want to play, I want to win back to back Super Bowls, we'll take care of this next year," etc.

What would the Chiefs say? "We panicked."

The Chiefs would have so much to lose, if he falls off as a player it'll be wow the Chiefs wasted some of Mahomes years getting duped by Jones.

[Molitoth]

By this same logic, we should pay Kadarious Toney a giant contract because his punt return won us the superbowl.

[RockChalk]

They lost me at "now they need to reward him". Put Greg Bishop on a long list of people who will never be a GM

[Chief Roundup]

Some of you are forgetting in 2020 Jones said he would just not play when asked about this similar kind of situation and commented that LeVeon Bell had told him about this kind of situation. I am just not sold on the thought that he will do things differently than his friend LeVeon Bell.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Some of you are forgetting in 2020 Jones said he would just not play when asked about this similar kind of situation and commented that LeVeon Bell had told him about this kind of situation. I am just not sold on the thought that he will do things differently than his friend LeVeon Bell.

Bell has also said that he regrets that decision. There is absolutely zero chance that Chris ends his career in a better financial situation by sitting next year. Whether that's as important to him as feeling "respected," I don't know. It certainly doesn't seem like he's making purely rational decisions at the moment.