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Old 08-26-2023, 02:28 PM  
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A Levelheaded Review '23 Preseason Game 3

1. QB's - Buechele - Okay I'll admit, I really really really wanted Buechele to step up and and steal the backup job. Today he just looked outmatched against the first string Browns defense - some of that makes me wonder if it was working with the #2 OL. The second pick was all on Powell, ball hit him in the hands - gotta catch that. But it is clear to me that Gabbert is the #2 and we are carrying 3 QB's. Oladokun has a chance to develop into a really good QB - keeping that play alive was a thing of beauty, hopefully we can sneak him onto the PS.

2. Rice dropping that wide open catch was frustrating but get it out of your system ion the pre-season. Hopefully the more opportunities he gets he more comfortable he gets.

3. Smith-Marsette is going to catch on with another team and I'm really happy for him - wish we could keep him but the WR room is so incredibly talented and crowded. Maybe if Toney starts the season on IR we can sneak him in as the #7 behind Ross.

4. RB's - CEH just seems blah I'm not sure he even makes this roster & McKinnon is just $ every time. Pacheco looked like he had a 5 yard loss and his hard running got it back to the LOS. It's so stark to see the difference between CEH running vs Pacheco. Perine just looks better than Prince and really bounced that 30 yard run perfectly, the 20 yard catch and run TD was a thing of beauty. Prince looks great against backups - he needs more time to develop.

5. Powell - not only has a pass bounce off his hands for an INT but then a holding penalty on a kickoff, I don't know if we will pick him back up for the practice squad.

6. Bushman - gotta catch those kinda passes - that was awful and turning it over for a Pick 6 is even worse. Nice way to make up for the Pick 6 - not sure he makes the 53 even with his performance.

7. Looked like Kinnard got a lot of snaps, only saw a couple of bad plays from him.

8. Ross making the plays we all expect him to - he is our #7 and it's crazy that someone with that much talent is our #7.



My final 53 based upon pre-season and including todays performance

(3) QB Mahomes, Gabbert, Buechele
(3) RB Pacheco, McKinnon, Perine
(7) WR ***Toney, MVS, Moore, James, Watson, Rice, Ross (***Smith-Marsette)
(3) TE Kelce, Gray, Bushman
(9) OL Smith, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith, Taylor - Allegretti, Morris, Kinnard, PTW

(25)

(5) S Reid, Cook, Bush, Edwards, Connor
(5) CB Sneed, McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Jones** (**Boye-Doe/Hailasse)
(5) LB Gay, Bolton, Tranquill, Cochrane, Chanel
(5) DE Karlaftis, FAU, Danna, Herring, Kaindoh* (*Omenihu)
(5) DT Jones#, Nandi, Shelton, Coburn, Wharton

(25)

*Until Omenihu comes back from suspension
** If Jones starts the season on IR
*** If Toney starts the season on IR
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:02 PM   #46
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Back up oline looked awful when Buechele was in. A bit better when Gabbert was in
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:09 PM   #47
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If #82 is not our 5th WR or one of the 53 itcs a crime.

Perrine and Marsette are having standout preseasons.
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:11 PM   #48
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Back up oline looked awful when Buechele was in. A bit better when Gabbert was in
I think that was because Cleveland played their starters longer than we did - our backups struggled against their starters
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:11 PM   #49
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You think they expose Buechele to waivers? Someone will pick him up - I'd almost try and trade him - no one is trading for CEH but funny none the less
Yeah. I think CP tends to overrate Buchele every PS.

I'd risk losing him if it meant they have a spot for awhile to fake IR Smith-Marsette.
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:16 PM   #50
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Yeah. I think CP tends to overrate Buchele every PS.

I'd risk losing him if it meant they have a spot for awhile to fake IR Smith-Marsette.
Would you drop Jwat in favor of getting ISM on the roster?
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:16 PM   #51
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Just like Ross, Marsette is showing up with big plays in every single game... were I calling the shots, its an easy decision
My only question would be, can he do it against other teams #1 defenses? I agree he has more upside than Watson. We're deep enough at receiver to keep him and let him grow; let him be an understudy to MVS. Mahomes will make him a more dangerous guy too.
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:17 PM   #52
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You think they expose Buechele to waivers? Someone will pick him up - I'd almost try and trade him - no one is trading for CEH but funny none the less
Personally I just don't think Buechele is anything special.

Reid is. And he can make any developmental guy look decent. If we lose Buechele - who cares? We'll make another one just like him.
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:19 PM   #53
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Personally I just don't think Buechele is anything special.

Reid is. And he can make any developmental guy look decent. If we lose Buechele - who cares? We'll make another one just like him.
I actually like Oladokun more but I think he needs a lot more polishing
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ISM is nowhere near as fast as MVS. In that role, he would be ill suited.

I'm not saying he hasn't flashed big time, I'm just saying that's not a good role for him.
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Would you drop Jwat in favor of getting ISM on the roster?
I would but I don't think they will. They would basically be paying for him to ride the couch.
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My only question would be, can he do it against other teams #1 defenses? I agree he has more upside than Watson. We're deep enough at receiver to keep him and let him grow; let him be an understudy to MVS. Mahomes will make him a more dangerous guy too.
I'm willing to find out, and like my odds if he gets a chance

But knowing Reids penchant for wanting longtime vets in certain roles, I'm prepared to be disappointed... just hoping we can conjure up some slick subterfuge, and stash him somehow

At only 23 years of age he's the future, not Watson
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I actually like Oladokun more but I think he needs a lot more polishing
He has that "thing" where the game is not too big for him.
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Old 08-26-2023, 04:33 PM   #58
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Watson just seems like one of those guys Andy holds onto for unexplainable reasons. He is not terrible or anything, but I like the other guys upside. I just don't see Andy dropping a vet for a rookie. Please let CEH go away. I never liked the pick, but hoped Brett and Andy knew better. He just doesn't give anything that our RB's don't have.
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Eh - do they?

They buried him last season. He lost his job to a 7th rounder and was never given even a small chance at earning it back. He was a gameday inactive for the SB - right?

I think the love affair is over. At best they were trying to showcase him for a 7th but that clearly backfired as the guy is toast.

They'd trade him for the last pick just to get his guaranteed money off the books, IMO. But they'll likely not find any takers and in the end I think he gets cut.
I will be happy and shocked if they cut MEH. Nate Taylor thinks they carry 4 RB's with MEH and Perine. MEH got 2 snaps today...
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ISM is nowhere near as fast as MVS. In that role, he would be ill suited.

I'm not saying he hasn't flashed big time, I'm just saying that's not a good role for him.
I like him as a Y or backup Z.

He's a pretty conventional receiver, for lack of a better way of putting it. I don't see anything truly standout or any niche strength - just a solid, well-rounded player.

Edit: I'm gonna say poor man's Maclin.
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