NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 40

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

no, not in this case. this isnt life. its an internet message board where 10 or 15 get a lifers fill their lives bullying and swearing at people. thats all.

Oh okay then. Be sure to wake up when you're done playing in dreamland.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Oh okay then. Be sure to wake up when you're done playing in dreamland.

good comeback.

it would be enjoyable if they dont draft a QB just to hear you guys crying.

Dinny Bossa Nova · 02-23-2009, 12:53 PM

You kids quit yer argufyin' and try and get along with one another.

Dinny

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

You kids quit yer argufyin' and try and get along with one another.

Dinny

sorry Dad. ok.

CoMoChief · 02-23-2009, 01:40 PM

I dont understand why a QB would refuse to throw?

To me that would just raise a red flag. What is he afraid he's gonna hurt himself throwing?

When you choose not to do something in this case THROWING which is the main thing a QB when he has the ball, then your trying to hide something.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-23-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I dont understand why a QB would refuse to throw?

To me that would just raise a red flag. What is he afraid he's gonna hurt himself throwing?

When you choose not to do something in this case THROWING which is the main thing a QB when he has the ball, then your trying to hide something.

Just stop with this stupid shit.

Neither Manning threw.
Ryan didn't throw
The Mannings advised Stafford not to throw.

Top QBs don't throw because they have nothing to prove by tossing the ball around to scrubs when they are in shorts.

Please, for once, just study history before you go off half-cocked and say something moronic.

Just once.

**DeezNutz** · 02-23-2009, 01:44 PM

I still don't understand why Stafford didn't throw.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Just stop with this stupid shit.

Neither Manning threw.
Ryan didn't throw
The Mannings advised Stafford not to throw.

Top QBs don't throw because they have nothing to prove by tossing the ball around to scrubs when they are in shorts.

Please, for once, just study history before you go off half-cocked and say something moronic.

Just once.

Sanchez should have sit it out too. But there were some questions about his arm strength and obviously he was trying to raise his stock.

It doesn't matter though, exhibitions are the equivalent of Pro Bowl nonsense for rookies.
Games under pressure in the real world are all that matters.

MOhillbilly · 02-23-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I dont understand why a QB would refuse to throw?

To me that would just raise a red flag. What is he afraid he's gonna hurt himself throwing?

When you choose not to do something in this case THROWING which is the main thing a QB when he has the ball, then your trying to hide something.

interested teams will ask for a private workout.

Chiefnj2 · 02-23-2009, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I dont understand why a QB would refuse to throw?

To me that would just raise a red flag. What is he afraid he's gonna hurt himself throwing?

When you choose not to do something in this case THROWING which is the main thing a QB when he has the ball, then your trying to hide something.

Stafford had nothing to gain by throwing.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 02:19 PM

So why didn't stafford throw?
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suds79 · 02-23-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

So why didn't stafford throw?
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Well when you're projected a possibly #1, you have nowhere to go but down.

It's a money thing. When millions are on the line, you can't blame somebody for making that decision.

98% of us would do the same thing if we were in his shoes.

RustShack · 02-23-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

So why didn't stafford throw?
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Because hes the top QB in this draft and if you've paid attention to he draft any other year you would know the top QB's don't throw.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 02:36 PM

There must be a reason he didn't throw. Maybe he's yella
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

There must be a reason he didn't throw. Maybe he's yella
Posted via Mobile Device

Maybe he just knew you would be watching and checking out his package.

02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m. Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion. And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day. Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff. We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players. Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.” The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee. “He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted. “What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.” Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person. “As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader. “The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.” (And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.) So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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