**** OFFICIAL MIZZOU vs Marquette NCAA Round 2 Game Thread ****

[KChiefs1]

NO. 3 MISSOURI 29-6 VS. NO. 6 MARQUETTE 25-9 • 4:06 P.M. CBS


MIZ!!!!!!!!!!

[luv]

Originally Posted by Reetard_KC

Thanks Luv for replying to my question?

Sorry. You're not the one ating reeruned. You guys (in general) just get so up in arms about what frazod says or thinks. I just thought it was funny that he could still get under AH's skin, when he doesn't even watch basketball.

[luv]

Originally Posted by Reetard_KC

So I take it MU won?

Oh, and yes.

[PastorMikH]

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

FWIW, I'm more concerned with us having a big lead at half than I am seeing us down by a lot at half. I've seen us come back from being down, I've also seen us blow a big lead.

Looks like I had a legit concern when I posted this at halftime. We had a nice lead, let them back in, barely pulled out the W.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by luv

Sorry. You're not the one ating reeruned. You guys (in general) just get so up in arms about what frazod says or thinks. I just thought it was funny that he could still get under AH's skin, when he doesn't even watch basketball.

The funny thing is, I get along with almost all of them.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by luv

Sorry. You're not the one ating reeruned. You guys (in general) just get so up in arms about what frazod says or thinks. I just thought it was funny that he could still get under AH's skin, when he doesn't even watch basketball.

I was being sincere...

[Mizzou_8541]

I just got here and I see there are 580ish posts. Let me guess what so many posts are about....we cheated...refs gave it to us...substituting a 68% FT shooter for a 75% FT shooter was classless...his foot wasn't over the line..., etc, etc. Am I right?

[Braincase]

Congrats to Mizzou. In a tourney where 75% of the field is cut the first weekend, the Big 12 rolls 3 of 6 into the Sweet 16. Better than average.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

I just got here and I see there are 580ish posts. Let me guess what so many posts are about....we cheated...refs gave it to us...substituting a 68% FT shooter for a 75% FT shooter was classless...his foot wasn't over the line..., etc, etc. Am I right?

Pretty much, and a few KU fans miffed that we actually won.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Frazod, a question of intellectual honesty if you will:

Do you believe it is possible that Anderson could begin to out-snag Self in terms of collecting the most sought after talent?

Not necessarily immediately, but over a period of say, two to three years? I believe it's very possible.

Back in August, no one here believed that MU would accomplish what they've accomplished, and yet here we are.

Now you tell ME who Sporting News Coach of the Year should be.

I hate giving anything KU credit, but Self is arguably the best recruiter in the nation.

I don't think MU will ever be pulling 'better' recruits than KU. KU will always be able to get the guys that are ranked higher by scout, more McD's All-Americans, more Rivals top 100's, especially when they have Self making the pitch.

The key will be for Anderson to get guys that turn out as good or better. He'll need to coach them up more and simply unearth more 'finds' than KU. Think of what Pinkel's done for the football team, finding some underrated players like Moore, Weatherspoon and Daniel. That's what Anderson will have to do. He'll need to find kids that fit his system that have been underrated and thus underrecruited.

English is a prime example. He's a guy that recieved pretty mediocre scouting grades and consequently wasn't chased by the KUs and Dukes of the world. He'll need to end up challenging for all-Big XII honors by his Jr and Sr years, and he'll need to have guys like that right behind him in the pipe, if MU hopes to consistently challenge as a national power.

It's a tall chore, we'll see if Anderson's up to it.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

I just got here and I see there are 580ish posts. Let me guess what so many posts are about....we cheated...refs gave it to us...substituting a 68% FT shooter for a 75% FT shooter was classless...his foot wasn't over the line..., etc, etc. Am I right?

Yeah I didn't really see what the crowd was whining about. JT Tiller was a better shooter than the guy they put in, English if my memory serves correct. That would be like subbing Sherron Collins and putting in Tyshawn Taylor to shoot free throws.

That crossing the inbound line call was dumb though. It wouldn't have changed the game I don't think, but it could of. That is a no call in the final minutes, especially when it's something minor. Hell, that is always a no call. You know how many times I've seen any of KU guys do that, or teams that run after a made shot ie Carolina do that? All the time. It's NEVER called.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Yeah I didn't really see what the crowd was whining about. JT Tiller was a better shooter than the guy they put in, English if my memory serves correct. That would be like subbing Sherron Collins and putting in Tyshawn Taylor to shoot free throws.

That crossing the inbound line call was dumb though. It wouldn't have changed the game I don't think, but it could of. That is a no call in the final minutes, especially when it's something minor. Hell, that is always a no call. You know how many times I've seen any of KU guys do that, or teams that run after a made shot ie Carolina do that? All the time. It's NEVER called.

More than that...English is a freshman who hadn't shot a FT all game. Tiller was 4-6 from the line.

[PastorMikH]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Frazod, a question of intellectual honesty if you will:

Do you believe it is possible that Anderson could begin to out-snag Self in terms of collecting the most sought after talent?

If you would allow me to answer...

On this one, Anderson may get a few, but I think Self has several advantages when it comes to landing the top talent.

-School Tradition is big IMO when it comes to atracting talent. Missouri has been good for many years (minus the Quin years) but as much as I hate kansas, I have to admit they have been among the elite numerous times throughout the years tradition-wise

-I also think that top talent wants minutes and stats. Our best player plays less than 2/3 of the game. In Anderson's system, it seems that there are no real stars, it's a team. IMO top talent won't get the minutes that many want to play.

-And, no matter how good the player is, if he opts for MU over KU, according to KU fans, the player really wasn't up to the level of all the hype he got anyway.


However, I don't think Anderson really needs top shelf talent with his system. I think he'd rather have 8-10 really good players than one or two top talent players and a bench that contains a lot of scrubs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

If you would allow me to answer...

On this one, Anderson may get a few, but I think Self has several advantages when it comes to landing the top talent.

-School Tradition is big IMO when it comes to atracting talent. Missouri has been good for many years (minus the Quin years) but as much as I hate kansas, I have to admit they have been among the elite numerous times throughout the years tradition-wise

-I also think that top talent wants minutes and stats. Our best player plays less than 2/3 of the game. In Anderson's system, it seems that there are no real stars, it's a team. IMO top talent won't get the minutes that many want to play.

-And, no matter how good the player is, if he opts for MU over KU, according to KU fans, the player really wasn't up to the level of all the hype he got anyway.


However, I don't think Anderson really needs top shelf talent with his system. I think he'd rather have 8-10 really good players than one or two top talent players and a bench that contains a lot of scrubs.

That'll work too.

Must be nice to have the Roy Williams Legacy coming in to a new job as the Coach at KU.

[PastorMikH]

Originally Posted by Reetard_KC

Frazod.....


Mike Anderson is an amazing coach, to take that team to the SS is awesome.... IF anything he wins one more game and he should have the court named after him.

Mike Anderson > Norm Stewart... By a 100 miles, not even close...

I'm pretty high on Mike Anderson right now, but Norm put this team on the map. You have got to consider what Norm did for this program. MU was mediocre to bad for many years - for most of their history in fact. Norm came in and turned things around. He put together a consistent winner and built a program that could lure upper level talent. Norm's two faults that I could see were his conservative play that led to loses in the big dance and he usually had a down year or two every 3-4 years - almost like they didn't work as hard at recruiting when they had talent.

That said, today Anderson got his 30th W - something Norm never did. IMO from this day forward, Anderson walks in his own shoes, Norm's are put away for good. But, before I say Anderson is WAY better than Norm, Anderson needs to put a bunch of winning seasons together at MU and take MU to and keep them at a higher level of success than Norm ever did.


I'm just SOOOO thankful that Anderson has turned out to be one that we compare to Norm and not one we compare with Quin.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I hate giving anything KU credit, but Self is arguably the best recruiter in the nation.

I don't think MU will ever be pulling 'better' recruits than KU. KU will always be able to get the guys that are ranked higher by scout, more McD's All-Americans, more Rivals top 100's, especially when they have Self making the pitch.

The key will be for Anderson to get guys that turn out as good or better. He'll need to coach them up more and simply unearth more 'finds' than KU. Think of what Pinkel's done for the football team, finding some underrated players like Moore, Weatherspoon and Daniel. That's what Anderson will have to do. He'll need to find kids that fit his system that have been underrated and thus underrecruited.

English is a prime example. He's a guy that recieved pretty mediocre scouting grades and consequently wasn't chased by the KUs and Dukes of the world. He'll need to end up challenging for all-Big XII honors by his Jr and Sr years, and he'll need to have guys like that right behind him in the pipe, if MU hopes to consistently challenge as a national power.

It's a tall chore, we'll see if Anderson's up to it.

Self is the top coach in the country, no question.

Outside of the top 5 (UNC, KU, UCLA, etc.), I'd say a great model that all other programs should aspire to would be Memphis. This is a program driven by having a top-tier coach. When JP leaves, I'm guessing they will regress substantially.