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05-23-2022, 11:16 AM | #602 |
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Also, I think running Binnington in back to back games was going to elicit a response regardless of the player. Pretty obvious what the gameplan is/was.
The fact that it was a shitstain like Kadri definitely isn't helping - but people would still be pissed that it was open season on Binnington for two games regardless of who knocked him out of the series. There's not another player on either team that would be missed more than 50. Guy was back in 2019 form. |
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A suspension? With his history, and the fact they ran Binnington the game before, yeah - probably should have gotten a game to send a message and keep the series from getting even more chippy - but whatever. Does anyone doubt that had a goal been scored on that play, that he would have been penalized and the goal dis-allowed? |
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05-23-2022, 11:28 AM | #604 |
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Well, yeah. His stick is inches from tipping the puck before the contact happens. They don't call goaltender interference for running into a goalie after the puck is in the net. Roughing, maybe, but that wouldn't have negated the goal.
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That's textbook. Do I think he should be suspended? Maybe, maybe not. In a vacuum - no. A 5 minute major is sufficient. But the NHLDPS (which we will all admit is a damn joke) has made clear their willingness to consider past conduct in an attempt to prevent future incidents involving the same player. Kadri has previously been suspended for blasting a goalie while playing a puck. A suspension that, at the time, they acknowledged probably didn't involve intent to injure but a clear reckless streak and a total lack of give a **** as to whether the player was injured. Kadri has been doing this crap for years. And with that in mind, I really wouldn't have had a problem with a 2-3 game suspension due to prior bad conduct. As I've said before, dirty players know how to be dirty in a way that isn't blatant. They spend their careers perfecting it. And when they go just a little over the line, its when shit like this happens. I think Kadri, being a dirty player, absolutely intended to get into Binnington's lap. Do I think he tried to hurt him? No, but I don't think he was intending to hurt Frazer or any of the other slew of guys he's knocked out with this borderline horseshit. It's just a guy who doesn't care if he DOES hurt someone. He doesn't play hard - he plays dirty. There's a difference. If it's McKinnon or Landeskog, I still think a 2 minute is warranted and no suspension. Because I wouldn't infer intent. But I've seen Kadri 'make a hockey play' too many times to believe for one second that the guy suddenly forgot how to skate and oopsed his way through the damn goal mouth. Put 100 NHL players in that exact same situation and tell me how many of them you think run the goalie? I'd say maybe 3-5. And only because there are 3-5 equally dirty players in this league. That wasn't a hockey play. It was a Kadri play. But in the end, I mostly agree with you - when the NHL won't step in, it's on the players to do so. And they need to. Loudly and clearly. And if that costs him the rest of his season, I would consider that a proportionate response. He has too many of these 'accidents' and whether it by design or sheer recklessness, he needs to be dissuaded from such events going forward.
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Try to block a punt, miss it, blast the punter and then tell your coach "Hey, I almost got it!" as they're driving the ball down the field. I'm sure he'll be real accommodating. His stick was inches from tipping it because Rosen had established position with enough room to come to a stop 3 feet away from the crease. What in the actual **** makes Kadri's continued effort there some sort of get out of jail free card? He didn't have the position to make the play and that's WHY this is all garbage hockey. It's a dipshit pinball being a dipshit pinball. Except that this isn't a Mike Ricci sort where you question if he had the actual skill to avoid that collision. Kadri absolutely does. But he's a dirty POS player and so things like this 'just happen' when he's involved with fair frequency.
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I get where you're coming from, but your issue here appears to be with the NHL's rules.
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Or that the officiating can be questionable on their best days? And as for the lack of a whistle - that one I can even understand. Look - that WAS a bang/bang play. And if you're not in an absolutely perfect position to see it, that's going to look like two guys running into each other. I simply don't think further review supports that. The angles don't match up, the timing doesn't match up. Nothing about that play should've happened in a reasonable 'hockey play'. There ARE rules to specifically address this play. The critical elements of it were (perhaps understandably) missed in real time. And the Department of Player Safety (all too predictably) doesn't seem to have any idea what to do with it in hindsight. But again, the NHL seemingly throws darts to determine if/when/how they will be meting out supplemental discipline so it is what it is. And since they won't - the Blues should.
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It was a garbage play. Admit it and move on that your frauds benefit to avoid another choke job that happens without the play happening. Admit it and we'll move on.
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I don't wanna see McKinnon hurt. I like the guy. I like many of the Avs, in fact. And I've always kinda felt that the need for enforcers and the like would diminish a great deal if you DIDN'T have guys who existed solely for the purpose of protecting the superstars who have nothing to do with that crap. So you'd have more talent on the ice and fewer goons. Go to the source. Beat the shit out of Kadri. Will it change him? Eh, maybe not. But in time he'll start to play tentatively. He'll jake that puck into the corner because he KNOWS that if he heads down there, someones gonna finish their check and next time it may not be Girard that ends up in the ER. And the big key is that this cannot be forgotten. Ever. He's done it twice now and so for as long as you ever see him on the other side of the ice you need to remind him that you haven't forgotten about it. And you need to make his life hell.
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Good to see Sammy G is able to be around the team at least.
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That can't be comfortable - I'm guessing like broken ribs, not much you can do for it.
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