Off-season WR possibilities

[Reerun_KC]

Seeing a lot of teams with sub .500 records with WRs that need to get with Mahomes.

Who is available and who would you like to see us pursue to go with Rice and Watson.

[O.city]

I just don't care anymore about the whole "fill the WR room with talent" stuff. You've got Rice, get another legit dude and then the room is fine.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thing is, if Pat has a year like this, it was just probably gonna be a "down" year.

The absolute worst year Pat has ever had was a loss, in overtime, in the AFCC Game...

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yes but you also didn't tell us that Kelce would have an injury riddled down year, Pat would have the worst year of his career and the receiver room outside of Rice would collectively shit it's pants.

Kelce's ypg is just a little lower than his career average, and his catch rate is higher than his career average. That narrative is overblown.

[BossChief]

I don’t think Veach would want to compromise his draft resources and any cap flexibility to trade for a WR that if we’re being honest is BERY similar to the one they just drafted and is a big hit.

They will be looking for what they hoped they were getting when they drafted Skyy…a guy that can get open immediately and work off the attention Kelce gets in the middle of the field. An Edelman/Welker type. They will also be looking for another deep threat because it’s obvious MVS isn’t returning.

If Veach is open to the option of using what would likely be a 1 AND 2 (or a 1+3+) and paying a big contract for a guy like Aiyuk (who I’m a big fan of)…then I think a more reasonable option would be to use those resources to move up in the draft to take a guy they love in the late teens, early 20s and using the cap space to retain a combination of guys like Sneed and Danna. Or Sneed and Tranquill.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thing is, if Pat has a year like this, it was just probably gonna be a "down" year.

A lot of the "year like this" is based on the WR's that can't lineup, can't catch the football, can't stop fumbling on special teams and at WR, can't run the routes or make adjustments, and don't belong on an NFL field as starters.

Switching Bienemy for Nagy also didn't do anything positive.

And finally Travis Kelce looks like he got 5 years older.


There is a reason why coaches at all levels say success breeds success.

The people around Mahomes this year at all levels other than the defense were obstacles, not supporting pieces.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I don’t think Veach would want to compromise his draft resources and any cap flexibility to trade for a WR that if we’re being honest is BERY similar to the one they just drafted and is a big hit.

They will be looking for what they hoped they were getting when they drafted Skyy…a guy that can get open immediately and work off the attention Kelce gets in the middle of the field. An Edelman/Welker type. They will also be looking for another deep threat because it’s obvious MVS isn’t returning.

If Veach is open to the option of using what would likely be a 1 AND 2 (or a 1+3+) and paying a big contract for a guy like Aiyuk (who I’m a big fan of)…then I think a more reasonable option would be to use those resources to move up in the draft to take a guy they love in the late teens, early 20s and using the cap space to retain a combination of guys like Sneed and Danna. Or Sneed and Tranquill.

I really hope that is not the goal.

Skyy Moore's upside was always limited to a decent slot WR, those guys can be signed in any NFL FA.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I don’t think Veach would want to compromise his draft resources and any cap flexibility to trade for a WR that if we’re being honest is BERY similar to the one they just drafted and is a big hit.

They will be looking for what they hoped they were getting when they drafted Skyy…a guy that can get open immediately and work off the attention Kelce gets in the middle of the field. An Edelman/Welker type. They will also be looking for another deep threat because it’s obvious MVS isn’t returning.

If Veach is open to the option of using what would likely be a 1 AND 2 (or a 1+3+) and paying a big contract for a guy like Aiyuk (who I’m a big fan of)…then I think a more reasonable option would be to use those resources to move up in the draft to take a guy they love in the late teens, early 20s and using the cap space to retain a combination of guys like Sneed and Danna. Or Sneed and Tranquill.

This is another reason I think Veach tries to solve the WR issue in FA. He tried to trade up last year and no team wanted to trade with us. There was nothing he could do.

Fortunately he got a home run with Rice in rd 2.

I doubt Veach wants us to be in that situation again.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I don’t think Veach would want to compromise his draft resources and any cap flexibility to trade for a WR that if we’re being honest is BERY similar to the one they just drafted and is a big hit.

They will be looking for what they hoped they were getting when they drafted Skyy…a guy that can get open immediately and work off the attention Kelce gets in the middle of the field. An Edelman/Welker type. They will also be looking for another deep threat because it’s obvious MVS isn’t returning.

Based on Andy and Naggy's comments from this year they'd prefer to keep Rice as a power slot because that's where he's been most productive. If that's the case we're back to needing outside WR's as Sky would be relegated to being a b/u. I'd have no problem with signing Aiyuk, DHop, Evans, Ridley, or Higgins.

The only thing I want to make sure of is being able to retain Tranquil and either Sneed or Jones. Preferably Jones but that doesn't seem likely.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I don’t think Veach would want to compromise his draft resources and any cap flexibility to trade for a WR that if we’re being honest is BERY similar to the one they just drafted and is a big hit.

They will be looking for what they hoped they were getting when they drafted Skyy…a guy that can get open immediately and work off the attention Kelce gets in the middle of the field. An Edelman/Welker type. They will also be looking for another deep threat because it’s obvious MVS isn’t returning.

If Veach is open to the option of using what would likely be a 1 AND 2 (or a 1+3+) and paying a big contract for a guy like Aiyuk (who I’m a big fan of)…then I think a more reasonable option would be to use those resources to move up in the draft to take a guy they love in the late teens, early 20s and using the cap space to retain a combination of guys like Sneed and Danna. Or Sneed and Tranquill.

Great POINT.

A.J. Brown took #18 and 101, which is 321 points on the Hill chart. Assume the price tag for Aiyuk is similar. That equates to the Chiefs' current #25 and 57.

For that same price tag, you can get to #15 in the current draft. Which might be enough to get you to Rome Odunze.

Same draft assets, $20+M/year more of cap space.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by O.city

Aiyuk leads the team in targets, yards receiving and receiving TD's.

It's definitely a run first type offense, but Aiyuk has put up basically 3 1k yard seasons.

He's really good, gets separation and would be a monster here.

He was also drafted at the end of the first round. We seem to have one of those picks and could probably get our own Aiyuk if we don't trade that pick away. Emeka Egbuka brings alot of Aiyuk's traits, if not more, and might be available, or within a short trade up.

Do you like DeVonta Smith? Because Troy Franklin looks just like him.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He was also drafted at the end of the first round. We seem to have one of those picks and could probably get our own Aiyuk if we don't trade that pick away. Emeka Egbuka brings alot of Aiyuk's traits, if not more, and might be available, or within a short trade up.

Do you like DeVonta Smith? Because Troy Franklin looks just like him.

My preference would be to sign one low end 1/high end 2 WR in FA, one more value vet and then use the 1st round pick on WR.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

My preference would be to sign one low end 1/high end 2 WR in FA, one more value vet and then use the 1st round pick on WR.

Hollywood Brown and Demarcus Robinson..

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Hollywood Brown and Demarcus Robinson..

I wouldn’t be surprised.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Hollywood Brown and Demarcus Robinson..

Works for me.

Would love DRob back if he is taking Skyy or Watson snaps.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He was also drafted at the end of the first round. We seem to have one of those picks and could probably get our own Aiyuk if we don't trade that pick away. Emeka Egbuka brings alot of Aiyuk's traits, if not more, and might be available, or within a short trade up.

Do you like DeVonta Smith? Because Troy Franklin looks just like him.

I feel like Egbuka gives them a great shot at developing their own Jeremy Maclin/Terry McLaurin type WR.

Not a true burner, but plenty of deep speed, great separator, precise route runner.