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9er guy · 10-07-2013, 07:30 PM

Peyton Manning is a game manager in the most literal sense.

He manages the game.

But "Game manager" is just analyst speak for avg Quarterback. Which he most certainly is not.

Marcellus · 10-07-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

You mean like calling Peyton Manning a game manager?

A guy that practically calls his own offense and is on pace for 64 TDs this season?

I think you are totally missing the way the term is being used.

Manning is in total control of the offense, he may be the eptimum of a game manager.

Or offensive CEO. However you want to put it.

Manning is a ****ing master of taking what the defense gives him, every single down.

Thats management. Just a vastly different kind.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-07-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

You mean like calling Peyton Manning a game manager?

A guy that practically calls his own offense and is on pace for 64 TDs this season?

dumbass

jd1020 · 10-07-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I think you are totally missing the way the term is being used.

Manning is in total control of the offense, he may be the eptimum of a game manager.

Or offensive CEO. However you want to put it.

Manning is a ****ing master of taking what the defense gives him, every single down.

Thats management. Just a vastly different kind.

I'm sorry. If you are trying to put Manning in what everyone generally refers to as a "game manager" then you are a ****ing moron and should try to find something else for a hobby.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-07-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I think you are totally missing the way the term is being used.

Manning is in total control of the offense, he may be the eptimum of a game manager.

Or offensive CEO. However you want to put it.

Manning is a ****ing master of taking what the defense gives him, every single down.

Thats management. Just a vastly different kind.

This

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-07-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I'm sorry. If you are trying to put Manning in what everyone generally refers to as a "game manager" then you are a ****ing moron and should try to find something else for a hobby.

Game manager is not a negative term.

jd1020 · 10-07-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Game manager is not a negative term.

Game manager is a term used for a QB that isn't going to go out and create offense. A game manager is a QB that relies on his defense to keep him in the game. A game manager is not the key to his teams success.

If you think that's Manning you can go ahead and off yourself.

-King- · 10-07-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Game manager is a term used for a QB that isn't going to go out and create offense. A game manager is a QB that relies on his defense to keep him in the game. A game manager is not the key to his teams success.

If you think that's Manning you can go ahead and off yourself.

Troy Aikman was a game manager.

Marcellus · 10-07-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Game manager is a term used for a QB that isn't going to go out and create offense. A game manager is a QB that relies on his defense to keep him in the game. A game manager is not the key to his teams success.

If you think that's Manning you can go ahead and off yourself.

I take a game manager as being a guy who is going to make the safe throw and take what the defense is giving you.

Thats Manning, its just that he is way way better at it than most.

Why do you think he audibles to runs all the time when the numbers dictate.

Is that not managing the offense?Taking the smart move?

jd1020 · 10-07-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Troy Aikman was a game manager.

Troy Aikman played in a vastly different league, as well.

Kaepernick · 10-07-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Game manager is not a negative term.

It started that way.

Pundits used to use the term "game manager" for a QB who was very limited and failed when asked to do to much or perform at a high level. It was a QB who coaches limited to "slow and steady" who would get rattled or throw picks or blow it in clutch situations or big games or if you asked too much from him. He wasn't going to engineer 4th quarter drives and he wasn't going to win from behind or throw 400 yards passing in a shootout.

The poster boy was Trent Dilfer.

As time went on, some of the guys these pundits labelled "game manager" started playing pretty well. To save face, the pundits started pretending they meant it as "a guy who can manage the huddle and the play". Still never pertained to a top QB.

It started as an insult and now I'm not sure what it means aside from a mediocre QB who isn't top tier.

Nobody calls Rodgers or Brady or Manning a "game manager". The call them elite or great or what-have-you.

You don't hear "game manager" as an insult much these days. But it started as a cut down for a QB who you couldn't lean on too hard and couldn't expect to actively help your team.

Kaepernick · 10-07-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Troy Aikman was a game manager.

I never once heard Troy Aikman called a "game manager" in any broadcast in any single one of his games. Never once. As a Niner fan, I saw a lot of Cowboys games in that era. Nobody ever called Aikman a game manager.

-King- · 10-07-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Troy Aikman played in a vastly different league, as well.

Russell Wilson is a game manager.

ViperVisor · 10-07-2013, 07:44 PM

Game managing is what every QB does. That is the foundation of QB.

On less talented Colts teams Peyton Manning was not given the credit he deserved at times because he had to do more smart managing to secure victories.

O-Line wasn't good. Running wasn't good. No explosive play WR or TE.

Defense was very bend but not break.

9er guy · 10-07-2013, 07:49 PM

If you want to look at the term in a vacuum in the most literal sense, obviously every Quarterback manages the game to some extent.

But that's not what the term means in pretty much every conventional football sense.

We all know who the term applies to and what are the levels above and below that.

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