***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Donger

To reduce the number of new cases, and prevent an overload of their hospitals. I doubt that things will just go back to normal after two weeks. I think we're going to see human interaction for many if not most people change until this bug is gone, by vaccination or other.

From what I've read we're looking at 45 days before cases start to drop off enough to think about opening back up. And that was China-level lockdown, which is the only thing we have any data on.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This must mean they know the hospital crunch is coming in some places.

Hospital workers in KC have been told by some hospitals to expect every ICU bed to be on a ventilator and a full hospital by the weekend. It may not happen. But, they are preparing and staffing for full capacity on Friday night. Told the RT staff your working 12 hour shifts/7 days a week. If you can’t make it and need a day off, let them know.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Read this - I think it gives a good idea of what Euro countries are thinking right now. May need a cycle for 18 months of lockdown, open up, lock down again when cases spike. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...16-03-2020.pdf

I'm really hoping we find a way around that. This report is by nature pessimistic, so there's hope for new treatments, better suppression methods or a summer pause.

don't think there will be away around it.


it's spreading pretty damm fast in brazil right now.

so warmer weather isn't gonna slow it down.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by O.city

That's good news.

Lets science the shit outta this ****er.

Maybe a new appreciation for science and STEM fields will come out of all this. In a crisis no one is running to their local palm reader. Well maybe they are I dunno.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Bwana

I just got a text from a cousin who works for the US customs. She just got off the phone with her boss. You may want to stock up on essentials before next Monday just to be safe. It sounds like congress could very well ratchet things up big time early next week.

This is a hoax text that is going around.


Mass lockdown or quarantine is not even legal.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

don't think there will be away around it.


it's spreading pretty damm fast in brazil right now.

so warmer weather isn't gonna slow it down.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3551767

This result is consistent with the fact that the high temperature and high humidity significantly reduce the transmission of influenza. It indicates that the arrival of summer and rainy season in the northern hemisphere can effectively reduce the transmission of the COVID-19.

Sao Paulo seems fairly temperate right now - highs in the 70s and low 80s. It could need steamier weather. We'll see.

[Titty Meat]

I'm so sorry to hear Hamas! I had no idea about you being sick or your wife. Good to hear shes doing better and get well man you got this.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by penguinz

This is a hoax text that is going around.


Mass lockdown or quarantine is not even legal.

While this may be a hoax, I'm pretty sure the govt can do whatever it needs to in a massive contagious health crisis.

[suzzer99]

Hang in there Hamas!

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'm so sorry to hear Hamas! I had no idea about you being sick or your wife. Good to hear shes doing better and get well man you got this.

His wife is a bad ass. One helluva strong women.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Any truth to the rumors 30 to 40 % of people with it have blood type A?

[FD]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

My god... There's a whole thread on this in DC... Do you know why the testing was delayed and also how testing in SK, the false positives, and the size and area of their country, is much different. Also, if you look at US and SK deaths, they are similar, despite 50 some in Washington out of 2 nursing homes...

This is not a political thing, but a big part of the story of what is going on right now is the lack of testing.

If we were testing people we could isolate the sick rather than lockdown everybody.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...tudy-finds.amp


Blood type A

[eDave]

My cat is afraid of thunder.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Any truth to the rumors 30 to 40 % of people with it have blood type A?

I don't know what blood type I am.