Cardinals ***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread *** - Page 44

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

Signed or controlled for the next 2 years

Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.

ChiefsCountry · 04-20-2010, 10:54 PM

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To be fair, I expect some pretty big things from Rasmus myself.

Steve Finley with more power. He was a stud in Texas League. Outside of Gordon, Butler, and Brandon Wood - no other minor leaguer stood out as much as Rasmus did.

Miles · 04-20-2010, 11:37 PM

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What the hell has happened to Loshe? Garcia needs to be moved to the #4 slot.

And what the hell is up with Ludwick on the bases? Jeezz falling for the fake throw to 3rd? I've not seen that work in years.

I'm fine leaving the rook in the 5 spot for now even though he looks much better. After his Post All-Star numbers last year I am a little concerned that Loshe is just another turd polished by Duncan that may be falling apart. However he has a decent history of being an innings eater as his worst.

Frazod · 04-21-2010, 12:00 AM

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What the hell has happened to Loshe? Garcia needs to be moved to the #4 slot.

And what the hell is up with Ludwick on the bases? Jeezz falling for the fake throw to 3rd? I've not seen that work in years.

I think Heyward told him his shoes were untied.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-21-2010, 12:17 AM

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I think Heyward told him his shoes were untied.

Took over for Joe Thurston's reerunery.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-21-2010, 12:21 AM

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Yeah. But hey, at least Haren makes real money now, so it's really more like Penny and Mulder for Haren because we couldn't have afforded Penny w/ Haren on the books. That sucks slightly less.

Ah hell, I don't even believe that. I hate Mark Mulder more than Herm Edwards and Carl Peterson combined. I hate that apathetic ****er so bad that I'd consider tearing my own leg off just to beat him with it. That sorry sonofabitch is the reason we didn't win 3 consecutive pennants (thanks for that game 6 performance in 2005, you gutless shithead).

And his steady barrage of "I thought I made some good pitches today, they just didn't miss the mistakes I made" after giving up 10 ERs would absolutely F'ing kill me. When he wore a shirt to a post-game interview after yet another asskicking that said "whatever" on it, that encapsulated the Mark Mulder experience. He's a thief and a coward. **** him and his family.

Drew for Wainwright. Drew for Waiwright. Drew for Wainwright...anger subsiding.

I drove from ****ing Ohio and back to watch that gutless one who sucks the penis pitch in that game. I'd like to jam an icepick through both of his testicles.

Miles · 04-21-2010, 12:32 AM

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I drove from ****ing Ohio and back to watch that gutless one who sucks the penis pitch in that game. I'd like to jam an icepick through both of his testicles.

It is pretty easy to rip on him since he couldn't pitch for shit after his shoulder was ruined. At the same time his demeanor on the mound the one year he was apparently healthy was hardly inspiring.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-21-2010, 12:37 AM

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It is pretty easy to rip on him since he couldn't pitch for shit after his shoulder was ruined. At the same time his demeanor on the mound the one year he was apparently healthy was hardly inspiring.

My parents went to that game where he threw a 10 inning shut out against Houston.

"Where were you on that one, dipshit?"

Miles · 04-21-2010, 01:04 AM

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My parents went to that game where he threw a 10 inning shut out against Houston.

"Where were you on that one, dipshit?"

I very much remember that game since I have a lot of family in Houston.

I really don't have much animosity towards Mulder since I was exited about the trade at the time but realized we were giving up something with Harren. That Mulder was only good for a single ****ing year and Harren is now an ace is a huge kick in the balls. Still doesn't make the trade that brutal when thinking about the everything at that time.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-21-2010, 01:11 AM

Haren, Carpenter, Wainwright.

That's the way love goes....whoo oooh

Chief Henry · 04-21-2010, 07:31 AM

I was very sleepy last night and fell asleep frequently during that game. But I do remember Lohse having a 1-2 count on a batter in the middle innings and walking him, then he got an 0-2 count on the NEXT D-Back and walked him too. Then the next guy rips a 2 run double. I shut the TV off and went to bed. For Lohse to get two consecutive batters with 2 strikes and then not have the mental toughness to get at least one of them is pathetic. He needed to be a bulldog at that point and he turned into a wet noodle. I would give Lohse two more starts and if he doesn't produce, send him down and bring up our best pitcher in the minors.

His team gave him early run support with a couple of leads and he let his team down.

raybec 4 · 04-21-2010, 07:34 AM

Hrabosky must have said it a hundred times last night but it's still true, if you score seven against Danny Haren you really expect to win. Lohse needs to get his poop in a group.

**BigRedChief** · 04-21-2010, 10:24 AM

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Hrabosky must have said it a hundred times last night but it's still true, if you score seven against Danny Haren you really expect to win. Lohse needs to get his poop in a group.

THIS!

7 runs against Haren and lose.....

Frazod · 04-21-2010, 10:42 AM

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THIS!

7 runs against Haren and lose.....

I watched most of the game. It was pretty awful. LOhSE is 2010's Wellemeyer.

DJ's left nut · 04-21-2010, 05:01 PM

Okay, so maybe last night sucked.

However, at least we're not moving an $18 million starter into a setup role:

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NEW YORK (AP)—Cubs manager Lou Piniella has decided to move ace right-hander Carlos Zambrano(notes) to the bullpen.

Piniella talked to Zambrano about switching to an eighth-inning role before Chicago faced the New York Mets on Wednesday night. He says Zambrano was ready to do whatever was best for the team and the change “makes all the sense in the world.”

Ted Lilly(notes) will be inserted into the rotation when he comes off the disabled list, probably this weekend.

Zambrano agreed to a $91.5 million, five-year contract extension in August 2007 that includes a 2013 option that could make the deal worth $110.75 million over six seasons. He says he doesn’t like the idea of being a reliever but wants to help the team win.

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-21-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Okay, so maybe last night sucked.

However, at least we're not moving an $18 million starter into a setup role:

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NEW YORK (AP)—Cubs manager Lou Piniella has decided to move ace right-hander Carlos Zambrano(notes) to the bullpen.

Piniella talked to Zambrano about switching to an eighth-inning role before Chicago faced the New York Mets on Wednesday night. He says Zambrano was ready to do whatever was best for the team and the change “makes all the sense in the world.”

Ted Lilly(notes) will be inserted into the rotation when he comes off the disabled list, probably this weekend.

Zambrano agreed to a $91.5 million, five-year contract extension in August 2007 that includes a 2013 option that could make the deal worth $110.75 million over six seasons. He says he doesn’t like the idea of being a reliever but wants to help the team win.

That is funny considering he threw a decent game last night. 2 ER's and 9 K's in 6 innings.

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Chief Henry MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IOWA Casino cash: $10005088	I was very sleepy last night and fell asleep frequently during that game. But I do remember Lohse having a 1-2 count on a batter in the middle innings and walking him, then he got an 0-2 count on the NEXT D-Back and walked him too. Then the next guy rips a 2 run double. I shut the TV off and went to bed. For Lohse to get two consecutive batters with 2 strikes and then not have the mental toughness to get at least one of them is pathetic. He needed to be a bulldog at that point and he turned into a wet noodle. I would give Lohse two more starts and if he doesn't produce, send him down and bring up our best pitcher in the minors. His team gave him early run support with a couple of leads and he let his team down. __________________ Patrick Mahomes...The only QB to ever play in the NFL with at least 5,000 passing yards in a single season and 5,000 passing yards in a single college season.
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-930901	Okay, so maybe last night sucked. However, at least we're not moving an $18 million starter into a setup role: ______________________________________________________ NEW YORK (AP)—Cubs manager Lou Piniella has decided to move ace right-hander Carlos Zambrano(notes) to the bullpen. Piniella talked to Zambrano about switching to an eighth-inning role before Chicago faced the New York Mets on Wednesday night. He says Zambrano was ready to do whatever was best for the team and the change “makes all the sense in the world.” Ted Lilly(notes) will be inserted into the rotation when he comes off the disabled list, probably this weekend. Zambrano agreed to a $91.5 million, five-year contract extension in August 2007 that includes a 2013 option that could make the deal worth $110.75 million over six seasons. He says he doesn’t like the idea of being a reliever but wants to help the team win. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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