Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR

[petegz28]

Just reported on 810

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by billay

The Welker/McCluster comparison is silly.

I agree. COMPLETELY silly.

Sproles is probably the best comparison. McCluster's strength isn't straight line speed, like most backs and receivers. His strength is in his ability to stay low and make very sudden and sharp cuts and changes in speed and direction.

He's going to be electric if you can get him any kind of open field. And while I don't see him as a great pure slot receiver, I think he's a guy you'll see Weis move around a lot to take advantage of mismatches. And from that angle, I think he has quite a bit of potential.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by billay

The Welker/McCluster comparison is silly.

Completely.

[KC kid]

Originally Posted by Miles

Yep. Still he could do so damage with the occasional snap at RB.

As a RB, his speed won't be utilized that well. As a slot receiver, you can get him the ball in space with short passes (cassel CAN do that) and he will make people miss

[KC kid]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I agree. COMPLETELY silly.

Sproles is probably the best comparison. McCluster's strength isn't straight line speed, like most backs and receivers. His strength is in his ability to stay low and make very sudden and sharp cuts and changes in speed and direction.

He's going to be electric if you can get him any kind of open field. And while I don't see him as a great pure slot receiver, I think he's a guy you'll see Weis move around a lot to take advantage of mismatches. And from that angle, I think he has quite a bit of potential.

Sproles is much more stocky. I like mccluster hands. He is longer

[Miles]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

And yet that is what he needs to be.

Why? Damn KC didn't draft the greatest slot WR pretty much ever there....

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KC kid

As a RB, his speed won't be utilized that well. As a slot receiver, you can get him the ball in space with short passes (cassel CAN do that) and he will make people miss

Charlie Weis builds his offense around deception. For example, he likes to have a home run threat, but he doesn't like to dial up a home run play very often. He just likes to use the threat of that to keep defenses honest with the deep pass. Because the minute a defense cheats, he'll dial up a home run play.

Having a back in the backfield who can either run the ball or, if a defense wants to cheat against the run, motion him as a receiver is something very valuable for a Weis offense.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by KC kid

As a RB, his speed won't be utilized that well. As a slot receiver, you can get him the ball in space with short passes (cassel CAN do that) and he will make people miss

Completely agree there.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KC kid

Sproles is much more stocky. I like mccluster hands. He is longer

I'm talking about more of the way that he's used. Sproles plays a lot of third downs. McCluster, like Sproles, is an outstanding pass protector. Both can motion to the slot based on mismatch. Or both can be involved either in a run, screen, or an underneath route. He's going to shift based on where Weis sees the mismatch in personnel.

As a runner, McCluster has a bit more agility and he's pretty strong too. Had very impressive numbers on the benchpress.

I think people who bitch are only paying attention to his 40 time and his height and size. They don't see that he performed really well on the short combine drills and that he did well on the bench.

[KC kid]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm talking about more of the way that he's used. Sproles plays a lot of third downs. McCluster, like Sproles, is an outstanding pass protector. Both can motion to the slot based on mismatch. Or both can be involved either in a run, screen, or an underneath route. He's going to shift based on where Weis sees the mismatch in personnel.

As a runner, McCluster has a bit more agility and he's pretty strong too. Had very impressive numbers on the benchpress.

I think people who bitch are only paying attention to his 40 time and his height and size. They don't see that he performed really well on the short combine drills and that he did well on the bench.

I hope he is used MUCH more as a receiver than Sproles. This team already has their speed back. I think he is a WR only

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KC kid

I hope he is used MUCH more as a receiver than Sproles. This team already has their speed back. I think he is a WR only

I don't think this is the case. I think you'll see him be involved in a lot more motions out to WR, but he'll run the ball less than Sproles did. I also think he's their guy for a lot of their passing downs.

I don't think the Chiefs want him as a receiver, as much as they like the flexibility to move him around from the backfield based on mismatches. If a team wants to load up on the pass, I see Weis dialing up a run play. That's just the way his offense works. It's all about mismatch and deception.

[kcxiv]

This has to be the case they didnt draft him 36 to be 3rd on the RB depth chart. I know you all think Pioli is a dumbass right now, but he's not that stupid.

He's going to be a WR and he's going to play alot, because this is a ****ing pass happy league. Charles doesnt need a fullback alot of the times because we will be throwing out of the shotgun alot.

ITs going to be fun to see what Weiss can do with these guys.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by KC kid

I hope he is used MUCH more as a receiver than Sproles. This team already has their speed back. I think he is a WR only

The Sproles comparison is amusing since man around here were all over the prospect of acquiring him this offseason.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

And yet that is what he needs to be.

He's ****ing Dante Hall with much less speed and much more natural ability as a pass catcher.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Miles

The Sproles comparison is amusing since man around here were all over the prospect of acquiring him this offseason.

Myself included.

And the compensation probably would have been the Chiefs' second round pick and they were willing to give it, and nobody would have complained.

I don't know why all of a sudden when the Chiefs bring in a guy with a similar profile to do a lot of the same things, all of a sudden they throw a shit fit.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Myself included.

And the compensation probably would have been the Chiefs' second round pick and they were willing to give it, and nobody would have complained.

I don't know why all of a sudden when the Chiefs bring in a guy with a similar profile to do a lot of the same things, all of a sudden they throw a shit fit.

The list of people willing to part with a 2nd for ANY HB was pretty ****ing short...