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Old 04-29-2012, 09:12 AM  
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The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:19 AM   #646
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The reality is that people are going to place a value on a player based on their opinion of the given player.

I would have given up a 1st and 2rd for Tannehill because I believe strongly that he has huge upside.

I didn't see Freeman in school, so I had no real opinion, but 2 years ago, many, or most, were on the Clausen bandwagon and would have happily spent the #5 pick on him while I just didn't see it, and thought that the pick would be wasted.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:21 AM   #647
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I don't give a ****.

Pioli would look a lot smarter if Josh Freeman were our QB right now.

And there's no ****ing way he'd have thrown 22 picks here.

For all his "fundamental" problems he threw 6 picks the year before.
i see you keep saying this but do you have a link to some proof of that or did you just make it up?
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:22 AM   #648
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Those that think this team wouldn't be better off RIGHT NOW with guys like Sanchez, Freeman or Dalton have a pretty weak argument as it is.

But they're missing the point completely.

Those players ALL have more POTENTIAL than Cassel, and more YEARS in which to REALIZE that potential.

You stupid ****s are more worried about getting your pathetic 9 ****ing wins every year, and aren't willing to look at the big picture - the future of this franchise.

I could give two shits if we're better now. If the goal is to win a championship, then at some point this organization is going to have to suck it up and do what it takes - even if that means trading a ****ton of picks - to get a legitimate potential elite QB.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:23 AM   #649
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Freeman is no worse of a first round pick than Tannehill or Gabbert.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:23 AM   #650
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Those that think this team wouldn't be better off RIGHT NOW with guys like Sanchez, Freeman, Dalton or Freeman have a pretty weak argument as it is.

But they're missing the point completely.

Those players ALL have more POTENTIAL than Cassel, and more YEARS in which to REALIZE that potential.

You stupid ****s are more worried about getting your pathetic 9 ****ing wins every year, and aren't willing to look at the big picture - the future of this franchise.

I could give two shits if we're better now. If the goal is to win a championship, then at some point this organization is going to have to suck it up and do what it takes - even if trading a ****ton of picks - to get a legitimate potential elite QB.
i agree on all but sanchez.

i dont see the potential there anymore, IMO he just doesnt have "it".


and i wanted to draft him that year.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:24 AM   #651
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i see you keep saying this but do you have a link to some proof of that or did you just make it up?
When you're not constantly playing from behind, and you have some semblance of a running game to run on, you don't throw picks.

I mean, do you even watch football?

This is a Super Bowl contender with Josh Freeman at QB. He makes throws Cassel can only dream of.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:25 AM   #652
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:25 AM   #653
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i agree on all but sanchez.

i dont see the potential there anymore, IMO he just doesnt have "it".


and i wanted to draft him that year.
Where you been? Haven't seen you around much. Then again, I haven't been around much lately either.

Gotta run to a staff meeting, I'll check back in and comment later.
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When you're not constantly playing from behind, and you have some semblance of a running game to run on, you don't throw picks.

I mean, do you even watch football?

This is a Super Bowl contender with Josh Freeman at QB. He makes throws Cassel can only dream of.
lol. ok buddy.

no qb throws picks when his team can run the ball and is ahead. Got it. thanks for teaching me something today
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Watch the video I posted, look at the throws at 0:57, 1:24, 2:21 and 2:50.

If we had someone who could do that...SUPER BOWL.

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Where you been? Haven't seen you around much. Then again, I haven't been around much lately either.

Gotta run to a staff meeting, I'll check back in and comment later.
life was calling. LOL.


short handed at the shop, remodeling the house and adding some rooms (raiders guy will be happy though, all cash money homie), wife's expecting, it's a nightmare trying to run a business and run that at home... at least i live close to the shop.

it's good to have time to see whats going on here though.

oh and i couldnt take this place through the manning drama.
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How many picks does Cassel throw with the 30th ranked running game and 32nd ranked defense?

30? 40?
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How many picks does Cassel throw with the 30th ranked running game and 32nd ranked defense?

30? 40?
again thats all a guess.
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Those that think this team wouldn't be better off RIGHT NOW with guys like Sanchez, Freeman or Dalton have a pretty weak argument as it is.

But they're missing the point completely.

Those players ALL have more POTENTIAL than Cassel, and more YEARS in which to REALIZE that potential.

You stupid ****s are more worried about getting your pathetic 9 ****ing wins every year, and aren't willing to look at the big picture - the future of this franchise.

I could give two shits if we're better now. If the goal is to win a championship, then at some point this organization is going to have to suck it up and do what it takes - even if that means trading a ****ton of picks - to get a legitimate potential elite QB.
Potential? Hmm...
I take from this that you're happy with the Poe selection then?

At the end of the day, NONE of those QB's are clearly better than Cassel today.

Could Sanchez or Freeman turn out to be? Sure, but the three years they've logged thus far don't help that argument.

Dalton? We'll have to wait and see.

Yates? Seriously? Somebody really typed his name in this forum?

Orton? Really? He threw 1 TD during his Chiefs tenure. 1.

This idea that franchise QB's grow on trees is bullshit.
If it were that simple...everybody would have one.

As it stands...about 1 in every 4 NFL teams does.

Do we ALL want an elite QB? Sure. But let's have some perspective.
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